The Official Pioneer 8G KURO Owner's Discussions Thread - Page 343

Originally Posted by 1080pixel

Specically what is wrong with the signal...

Originally Posted by LesMoss

But, that audio processing circuitry is already there in the KUROs to handle DD5.1 from the OTA tuner.

But it is a very poor design.

Originally Posted by Macfan424

I can get rid of it by changing the screen's position via the "H/V Position Adjust control, but this would make the screen off center for all channels, so I just live with it on FXHD. Hopefully, the originators will improve their transmission quality as they gain experience with HD.

Originally Posted by 1080pixel

I included the pix of the white lines at the top edge of the video display area on my 5010. I have DirecTV HD service. HDMI straight from HD receiver to TV.

The line is broken into segments. Some segments flash on and off very fast.

It happens mostly during commercial although I saw it with a National Geo Channel program where there were pillars on left and right.

I also see it on the left edge of the video display area of a 4:3 signal signal.

DirecTV has no idea. Pioneer says it's the signal from DirecTV.

Any idea? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Macfan424

The station appears to be allowing some of the visual "garbage" on the edge of the transmission (cc signals, etc.) to intrude into the "safe zone," rather than confining it to the area normally removed by overscan.

Originally Posted by RBO

I was getting the same thing with a Verizon FIOS feed. I adjusted the vertical position of the image upward 8 clicks and I have not had any more appearances of the broken white lines flashing at the top, nor the bottom of my set. Also, I recorded the HD NET test pattern signal a few weeks ago and checked the position of my set's image with that and surprise surprise the image position was perfect by that standard.

Originally Posted by 1080pixel

I included the pix of the white lines at the top edge of the video display area on my 5010. I have DirecTV HD service. HDMI straight from HD receiver to TV.

The line is broken into segments. Some segments flash on and off very fast.

It happens mostly during commercial although I saw it with a National Geo Channel program where there were pillars on left and right.

I also see it on the left edge of the video display area of a 4:3 signal signal.

DirecTV has no idea. Pioneer says it's the signal from DirecTV.

Any idea? Thanks.

Originally Posted by 720p

I will be wall mounting my 50" Kuro. My bracket is fixed no tilt/etc. Does 30" from the floor to the bottom of the plasma sound about right? I am not looking for the over the fireplace/painting look.

Originally Posted by 1080pixel

I included the pix of the white lines at the top edge of the video display area on my 5010. I have DirecTV HD service. HDMI straight from HD receiver to TV.

The line is broken into segments. Some segments flash on and off very fast.

It happens mostly during commercial although I saw it with a National Geo Channel program where there were pillars on left and right.

I also see it on the left edge of the video display area of a 4:3 signal signal.

DirecTV has no idea. Pioneer says it's the signal from DirecTV.

Any idea? Thanks.

Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer

The tearing line at the top of the screen is caused by the TV station. What you're seeing is called the "vertical interval" Broadcasters sell this space for all sorts of uses. For example CW sells this bandwidth to Muzak and puts the Muzak audio in the "vertical interval" as a sub-carrier.

Call the station and your programming carrier so they can take care of this transmission error.

-Robert

Originally Posted by RoyG

That is the beauty of the Harmony remotes. You don't need discrete codes for it to work. I have the 890 and it cycles through the differant modes to reach the one I choose , i.e. video 1 for DTV and componet for DVDs (Obviously not a Kuro, but soon). As long as you always use the Harmony it remembers what state the equipmet is in and only changes what needs to be changed when you select watch TV or watch DVD etc.

Originally Posted by tdsnumbers

A question for every HD plasma owner with a HD DVD player.

I have the Toshiba XA2. It gives me a choice of picture settings. I'm sure yours does also. They are 16x9, 4:3, and 4:3 letterbox. My question is this... if you set the DVD player to 16x9 and the aspect ratio of the movie is 2.35:1 (or 2.66:1 in the case of Ben Hur) aren't you going to cause distortion of the picture to some degree using the 16x9 setting?

It seems to me you would have to set the player to the letterbox format to get the identical aspect ratio of the movie.

I've only had this plasma and DVD player for 3 weeks so I haven't watched a lot of movies but the ones I've seen I have to say I don't notice any distortion when in the 16x9 setting and playing a movie with a 2.35:1 aspect ratio but it seems to me there has to be some distortion to some degree. Am I wrong?

All experiences and opinions on this are welcome. I would prefer to minimize the distortion of the original aspect ratio of movies.

Originally Posted by tdsnumbers

A question for every HD plasma owner with a HD DVD player.

I have the Toshiba XA2. It gives me a choice of picture settings. I'm sure yours does also. They are 16x9, 4:3, and 4:3 letterbox. My question is this... if you set the DVD player to 16x9 and the aspect ratio of the movie is 2.35:1 (or 2.66:1 in the case of Ben Hur) aren't you going to cause distortion of the picture to some degree using the 16x9 setting?

It seems to me you would have to set the player to the letterbox format to get the identical aspect ratio of the movie.

I've only had this plasma and DVD player for 3 weeks so I haven't watched a lot of movies but the ones I've seen I have to say I don't notice any distortion when in the 16x9 setting and playing a movie with a 2.35:1 aspect ratio but it seems to me there has to be some distortion to some degree. Am I wrong?

All experiences and opinions on this are welcome. I would prefer to minimize the distortion of the original aspect ratio of movies.

Originally Posted by 1080pixel

I included the pix of the white lines at the top edge of the video display area on my 5010. I have DirecTV HD service. HDMI straight from HD receiver to TV.

The line is broken into segments. Some segments flash on and off very fast.

It happens mostly during commercial although I saw it with a National Geo Channel program where there were pillars on left and right.

I also see it on the left edge of the video display area of a 4:3 signal signal.

DirecTV has no idea. Pioneer says it's the signal from DirecTV.

Any idea? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Macfan424

I'd agree with Pioneer. Partially, at least. I'd guess the fault is with the originating station, not D* per se. I see the same thing, but only with FXHD, not the other channels I watch. It comes and goes as the orbiter moves the picture. My hookup is like yours, using an HR20 D* receiver.

I can get rid of it by changing the screen's position via the "H/V Position Adjust control, but this would make the screen off center for all channels, so I just live with it on FXHD. Hopefully, the originators will improve their transmission quality as they gain experience with HD.

Originally Posted by 720p

I will be wall mounting my 50" Kuro. My bracket is fixed no tilt/etc. Does 30" from the floor to the bottom of the plasma sound about right? I am not looking for the over the fireplace/painting look.

Originally Posted by pennsylvaniaRON

From my research, most will say the middle of the plasma should be no higher than the avg persons eyesight height. Lets say thats approx. 64.5 inches. Therefore the middle of a plasma should be 64.5" from the floor. A 60" Kuro is 35" high so subtract (1/2) 17.5 from 64.5 which equals 47" (floor to bottom of plasma).

Personally I think thats a little to high for wall mounting. Most people will have a credenza underneath and an in-wall center channel speaker. Both need accomadating. I have a cardboard cutout for the pro150 and its at 48" bottom. My wife agrees that it needs to be set a little lower and we decided that about 44" is ideal for us. I have a rather large room which also influenced our decision. Regards...

Originally Posted by 1080pixel

I included the pix of the white lines at the top edge of the video display area on my 5010. I have DirecTV HD service. HDMI straight from HD receiver to TV.

The line is broken into segments. Some segments flash on and off very fast.

It happens mostly during commercial although I saw it with a National Geo Channel program where there were pillars on left and right.

I also see it on the left edge of the video display area of a 4:3 signal signal.

DirecTV has no idea. Pioneer says it's the signal from DirecTV.

Any idea? Thanks.

Originally Posted by P_CAL_CAN

Greetings from Canada.

I have been following this thread, as well as some others, for a couple of months now. Some great questions/answers from the users here.

I am hoping to purchase a new plasma during the boxing week sales. I have been going back and forth between the Panasonic and the Pioneer for some time. The stores that have both all seem to agree that the Pioneer is the way to go. It has taken a long time for our pricing to come down in Canada (even though our dollar is now at par with the US dollar). The Pioneer 6010 is now in my budget range, but to be honest the number of issues that users have reported on this thread have me a bit nervous. There seems to be more problems with the Pioneers than reported with the Panasonics. Perhaps there is a negative slant to most postings because people don't need to post if everything is working properly.

OK - my questions

Is the 6010 worth the extra $ compared to the Panasonic?

Are the Panasonic units more reliable?

Will SD DVDs appear pixilated on a screen this large? The stores always demo with Blu-Ray, and the one demo I did see with a standard DVD (played in the Pioneer BD) looked a bit pixilated.

Any thoughts on extended warranties?

Originally Posted by 1080pixel

After hearing what others are saying about the scan lines I asked about earlier, I wonder if it will be fruitful to pursue with DirecTV.

The tech is coming out in a few days. Is there anything he/DirecTV can do?

What about the video/audio out-of-sync problem I experience with the 4 major networks - especially prime time shows? Again, can DirecTV do anything about it while the tech is on site? I hook directly from HD receiver to the TV via HDMI.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by bboncorr1

what i did was stand up and look straight at the wall. i then put a mark on the wall and hung my tv there. i found it to be a great method to mounting my 50". it's perfect when i'm sitting and standing. ...