The Official Pioneer 8G KURO Owner's Discussions Thread - Page 349

I did not discuss the streak issue.

We did discuss cleaning methods for the screen. He said, as others have mentioned, that NO cleaning solvents of any kind should be used on the screen. He said you could use a LIGHTLY damp cloth (not wet) to clean the set but only if absolutely necessary.

I can't remember the exact menu sequence, but momentarily switch the HDMI video mode from "Video" to "PC", and you'll then seen either 60Hz (for 1080p/60) or 24Hz (for 1080p/24).

Guess it is not totally surprising but the 5070 never had a drop like that...

I ended up buying a 5080 last month after months of waiting for a drop in price. I bought at BB because of the 60 day price protection. Walked in yesterday and got 550 back which really made my day. I wanted to buy from a local BM or from a online retailer like invision but the local would only match BB and would not price protect. Online looked like the way to go but in the end I was worried about shipping problems.

The set is FANTASTIC!

there have been at least 2 owners that had the popping problem with the Pro110FD. exchange it if possible or contact pioneer if that is not possible.

the 5070 had a msrp drop just a couple months after introduction and a couple more before the 5080 was on sale as the new model. the 5070 started at $4500 msrp and ended up at $2500 msrp, now Pioneer just needs to work on bringing down the msrp on the 1080p displays.

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I disagree. The whites do not perform on outdoor shots like they should. Sometimes good enough, but when watching, for example a ski competition being held at around noon at the competition site the lack of white crush (which should indeed be there) gives it away. Detail is nice but not when it changes the source scene lighting to do it. A scene like that should be blinding in places, not that constant 'late afternoon' look that the set tends to impart. This is not the only situation where this occurs, but perhaps the easiest to demonstrate. Another would be night baseball games. Look at a night game (preferably RedSox :-) on the plasma and then check any decent crt in your house...way under-lit on the plasma and not nearly the highlights.

That doesn't work for my on my 5010FD. It just says PC when I go to PC mode

I think the conversation is in regards to PC input mode located in the HDMI options menu....not PC mode....as in input mode....that is a key on your remote.

Because there are (3) shopping days left until Christmas.

Ahh didnt even see that option yet. So, Option then HDMI Input then Signal Type then change to PC. I see it now it shows 1920x1080 24Hz.

Does anyone use those settings for normal viewing without PC instead of video? I see there are some video options also when set to PC signal type and also the pro adjust is gone and now it has red green blue setting.

In my setup, the closer the TV is to the wall, the louder the noise is.

Overall, I got lucky as my buzzing/fan exhaust noise level is pretty low and almost non-existent. If my 150FD was as loud as many have posted, I would return it for another set, and return it for a refund if the second set sounded the same.

My personal opinion is altitude and mounting location play a great part in this problem. I would like to know how many of you at or near sea-level have a large buzzing problem.

The above may have been posted by others... I just thought I'd add to the pot.

Oh yes, I have owned five TV sets over the last 15 years: the 40" Mitsubishi CRT, a 32" Proton, a 20" NEC, a 50" Pioneer FHD-1 and the 60" Pioneer 150FD. EACH buzzed, even when it was new (especially during very bright scenes).

On a separate note, I am getting a lot of the "power-off / flashing blue light" errors. What is the latest on this problem?

Lastly, I still believe the FHD-1 has an awesome picture which was easily attainable without professional calibration. Although the blacks are not as dark as the 150FD, it is still a great plasma capable of dialing in a great (non-calibrated) picture. I was floored by its out-of-the-box picture, and slightly (not hugely as originally typed) disappointed with the 150FD out-of-the-box picture.

Of course, I know each TV is different, the 50" should have a slightly sharper picture because of the smaller screen and dot-pitch size, and that calibration will make the 150FD shine even brighter (as well as other facts, issues and points I'm sure a lot of you will point out but I don't have the time to type right now), but this is just my opinion, having viewed both plasmas side-by-side on the same feed.

I am now content with the picture I have utilizing a combination of D-Nice and Ken Ross' settings, but I spent a lot of time to get to this level.

In a nutshell, I was able to get a spectacular picture on the FHD-1 quickly by utilizing D-Nice's settings and I will need to get the 150FD professionally calibrated to achieve the same picture/feeling of greatness.

Just my opinion.

Because BB made a mistake. Pioneer was not supposed to do it until after the 1st.

This has become a recent concern of mine and I wonder how much additional heat may be generated when a PDP is mounted nearly flush against the wall w/o adequate ventilation versus several inches away?

That temporary sale is over now. Price has gone back up to what it has been the last couple of months.

1080p60 and 1080p24 over HDMI both have "1080p" in the corner of the display . It's a little awkward, but you can check for 1080p24 input by going to the film mode menu item. If the options are greyed out it is 1080p60. If not it is 1080p24.

I just noticed that when I use the same exact settings for movie and standard the movie mode is darker. Is this a setting in the service area that is not accessible to make movie settings different than standard? I tried it with user setting and seems to be the same as standard. Havent tried others yet.

I believe D-Nice's Movie setting is for those who think the other settings are too bright for dark rooms....

What I am saying is the exact setting was used for movie mode as for standard mode but the picture comes out different.

Anyone else notice the volume is on the right side and channel buttons are on the left side of the remote unlike every remote I have had it is usually the opposite. I keep changing the damn channels when I try to change the volume. lol

Also, Why did my remote come with Fujitsu batteries lol I wonder if the Fujitsu plasmas come with Pioneer batteries.

I just picked up the 4280 last night, and am having a heck of a time setting it up. Perhaps someone can help. My problem is that the tv doesn't show a picture on channels 1-99 but has audio. Channels 100 and up are fine. I am running it through a comcast digital box. I have tried the auto-search to set up available channels, but it only found two, and neither could be viewed. Also, the tv guide function says set up is in progress even though it has said that for 24 hours.

The modes have different offsets in the service menu.

So on my PC I'm trying to send 24Hertz or 72Hertz?

It just might have something to do with it. I'm hoping others may chime in with their experiences.


Sorry, misread your question....


I agree with this.

the $1899 sale was a bb pricing error. the 10% off sale price has ended at bb online but you can find bb coupons for 10-12%. The bb price as posted is the new msrp for the 5080 which is noted on the Pioneer USA site as $2500, much lower than the $3500 that has been the msrp since it was released in May 2007.

I just want to know who has had this done. I have a Pio-Elite 150FD, and they are coming this Feb 7 to tune it. Just want to know what everyone who has had this service done. Thanks and let me know.

Makes you wonder how much margin is in these things. The pricing error was fixed on the BB website Tuesday morning, but I'm not sure how long it had been online before then. At least some stores had standard printed tags at the error price on the showroom floor Tuesday morning, too. Not sure how long they had been there, either, but when the salesman noticed it, he knew it was an error. The manager had to override the price in their computer to honor the tag at checkout. Sure, it may not have been the intended price, but I have a hunch it will be back to that price again soon enough.

I also wonder if big ticket items just aren't moving well this December.

Here it is for the 110, hell, for all of the Kuro panels.

Minimum standard for acceptable noise level: When watching any of the numerous quiet scenes in 2001 A Space Odyssey, no audible buzz from 6 ft away from the center of the panel with the volume set to 20 with the included speakers.

There, that was easy. Next Saturday can not come soon enough. I cannot believe how craptacular my current 110 is. It only gets better from here.

Hey D,

Do you have any settings for the 5010FD using BluRay? Should I just be using the reference settings?

If the Flashing Blue Light (power light) is anything like my Pio Elite PRO-940HD, it is from the the built-in TV Guide looking for the broadcast program info. Going back through the guided setup usually fixes that (I think entering all zeroes for zip code disables it).

Regards,

Doug

ever1458 - we not only are an authorized Pioneer & Elite servicenter, (but we do 30 other brands of both audio & video as well as 12v). We also are authorized to sell the product as we do custom installs also.
All of these manf. require that we check with them first before accepting any & all internet/mail order purchases for repair. AND yes, we have had to refuse (free warranty) service on a NAD a/v receiver and a Pioneer pdp5070hd recently. The customers ended paying for the repairs but were not happy campers. Both dealers had told them they 'were' authorized when, if u called Pioneer & Lenbrook (nad's parent company) they were NOT.
So, it pays to make that phone call to the manf.
We also recommend highly the extended warranties...since there r NO individual parts in any of these plasmas, dlp's, lcd's, etc...average repair costs are 400-600. + service call. AND if the panel or light engine goes bad...u'll throw it away.
Good luck, alan
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