The Official Pioneer 8G KURO Owner's Discussions Thread - Page 373

Well, I agree with others that say just do it. In fact, I just did.

My Pro-150fd arrives tomorrow morning!

I guess the good thing about being late to the game is that people won't be pressuring me to post pics

Time to download the break-in DVD...

For the money you're spending, it's time to get a refund. You have been through a big exercise in frustration and even the most ardent A/V enthusiast can only take so much.

I purchased the first 50PX50U (when they were still made in Japan) and the first PRO-150FD to arrive at smAlbany NY. While I paid MSRP for each PDP they are both trouble free. When manufacturers start cranking up their production numbers I suspect the quality control measures begin to take a nose-dive.

Eh, who wants a Kuro PDP with their gray blacks anyway?

You're best off waiting for the extreme tech.

Can someone tell me if the supplied wire and screws to mount the speaker on the 5080 come in the plasma box with the remote ect. or in the box for the speakers? I have had it for a week and have spent the whole time trying to tweak it and just now opened the speaker box, but nothing but the mounts are in there.
Thanks

In the box with the speaker. Someone else could not find theirs for a while.. they are taped to the styrofoam if I recall correctly. Be sure and take out the styrofoam that is underneath the speaker and look on the underside of it taped to it.

adam... if you have not all ready, you may want to check this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=949003
No solutions but discussed much.

Thanks!
I can't see, and here I am trying to tweak a T.V.
It was taped to the bottom of one of the foam pieces.

If my first set hadn't been perfect, I would have no sense that the buzzing is an anomaly. I had the 720p holy grail, but 1080p beckoned!

My next step has to be to call Pioneer and see if a service technician can come to my home and possibly fix the set this month. If that's not possible or if a tech comes by and says "that's what plasmas do", this lovely gem of a tv is going back to BB and I will take a deep breath and research other options.

Having come this far, I may as well go all the way.

Thanks sma. That's a pretty troubling thread, but had some interesting stuff in it.

Brentsg,


Sorry I "popped in"; I didn't realize the site was invitation only. I have and did look at all over the net re the 950 -- as you might know, there are not a lot of reviews of the 950 out right now. As far as getting a response, I appreciated it very much -- and said so; what I was hoping for was to see if anyone had some substantive insights ... many "highly regarded" displays turn out to have issues. A "new" model is not necessarily better than the old one. I don't know what you think was "obvious".

The very purpose of this forum is for like-minded people to get together and cooperatively share their experiences, good or bad. That's all I was asking. If for some unknown reason you took afront to it, then no response was necessary from you. You could have simply skipped right over my question. Instead, you took it upon yourself to deem yourself the judge of "important" questions vs. ones you deemed frivilous. Ridiculous.

The 950 is a Kuro. Any and all reviews, comments, threads, etc about any specific model Kuro can be tagged to the 950.

Is the 950 better than the 940....yes. How much, that's something that you will have to decide. However, almost everone else would agree that it is leaps an bounds better.

If you would like a specs comparison, you can do that on Pioneer's website...except for contrast ratios. Here are the contrast ratio numbers:

940 = 3,000:1
950 = 16,000:1

Thank you, D-Nice. I appreciate the response. I have used your settings on prior models and very much appreciate all of your efforts. Thanks again.

Fixing to pull the plug on the 6010...1 1/2 questions:

1. If I'm feeding it my A/V through HDMI, will it output that exact audio signal through the digital audio output on the back of the display? ie: TrueHD, DTS, etc being passed directly to my receiver? I ask because my Onkyo 875 gives me a bit of a video delay that I cannot turn off (but I can turn off the audio delay for some reason...), so I'd like to get rid of that delay for gaming reasons.

1 1/2. Anyone getting any significantly long IR or, heaven forbid, burn-in? (Haven't looked at plasmas in several years)

Don't you mean the trigger? lol.

I have been working on getting a PowerBook Pro to connect to an 1150, and thought others might like to hear the saga.

I bought a 15' Monoprice DVI-HDMI cable, thinking this would do the trick - but it only gave me picture (great picture), no sound.

Tonight I went to move the 1150 to a new stand, and as I studied the back panel I realized that inputs 4 & 5 have both HDMI and L/R audio (RCA) inputs. Voila! [Note to self: RTFM]

I connected the DVI-HDMI cable from the MacBook Pro to input 4, and also connected a Stereo Miniplug-L/R RCA adapter cable - and now I have sound!

But this may not be necessary, because I have also found 2 other approaches:

(1) PS3 has FireWire jacks, so I may just connect an external hard drive to the PS3 and copy videos from time to time from the MacBook Pro;

(2) Nullriver has just released MediaLink software for the Mac, which for $20 allows the PS3 to see a Mac across your home network. The trial version (full function for 30 minutes) was able to play SD .avi files and a 720p DIVX file (once I changed the filetype to .avi - for some reason it couldn't even see it as a .divx file).

Wireless streaming (802.11g) was fine with SD, jerky with 720p - but you can copy over the wireless to the PS3 hard drive and then play flawlessly. [Will be upgrading to 802.11n soon - that may be enough for 720p]

Or you can presumably combine (1) and (2): connect a huge FireWire drive to the PS3 and use MediaLink to copy files from the Mac to it for later playback on the PS3. I think that's what we'll end up doing.

This past month, I've returned my Vizio P50HDM, got a Samsung HP-T4254 for my bedroom, bought and returned a Samsung 5271F(very nice tv, but didn't end up liking the 120hz smoothing), bought a Panny PZ700u then changed to the Pio 5080 prior to delivery.

I must say I'm very quite pleased with the set, even on the lower break-in settings. I was skeptical that a similar 720p tv to my Vizio plasma would be better than going to 1080p, but I'm sold.

My one question now is whether I should set-up my SA 8300HD STB to output only to 1080i and left the Pio doing all the downscaling or add either 720p or 480p wide to the output setting to let the STB output those without upscaling and then deinterlacing for the Pio.

Thanks

I understood Brentsg to be responding to your reply, not to your question.


Maybe you are unaware of the impression you created with the tone of your reply.

You too "could have simply skipped right over" the reply that didn't satisfy you.

Geez, if you don't like the blacks on the Kuro then the 7th gen sets would have drove you crazy.

M

I agree 100% about the Joe Black thing.

I like your wit

I like your wit.

Yes i agree. And i am one of those people that have upgraded from a 5010fd to a 150fd. But i will not sell my 5010fd until i break-in my 150fd. I may let my 5010fd go before i get my 150fd IFS calibrated

And for the people that are new to the Kuro there are two very important things to remember.
1st Follow D-Nice brake-in settings and use his free DVD. Also follow his instructions.
2nd. Have a ISF calibrator come and calibrate your Kuro. But not befor you have 250 hours or more. The more the better.

And one little tip for us is to run the video pattern about once every 25 to 50 hours. This imo will sharpen your display i.e. color and contrast .

First off, you read WAY too much into my first reply.

From my perspective you asked the following question. "My older model Pioneer plasma broke and the manufacturer has offered to replace it with a brand new current model, which happens to be widely praised in reviews just about anyplace you look. I haven't done any research so I'd like people here to tell me that it's a great deal."

You have to understand that what you have been offered is an AMAZING deal. A reputable member basically told you that. You replied that you needed more people to back this up.

Me saying "you can't be serious" in asking for more feedback wasn't intended to be rude in any way. Contrasting your offer to what typically happens to me in the same situation, well lets just say it took Pioneer over a year to repair my broken display. So yeah, it's like you won a couple grand in the lottery but aren't sure if you should turn in the ticket.

And the comment about "popped in"... Every day people join this forum in need of information, but they aren't willing to invest a little bit of time to discover that the information they need is already documented. It's valuable enough that others can spend a few minutes feeding them what they need, but not valuable enough to actually review what is already present. Yes that is a pet peeve to me. The people that do this are not "like-minded".

Anyways, my apologies for not ignoring your question like virtually everyone else did.

Does anybody knows why Pioneer left those 5pixel columns out of the PC mapping @ 1360x768?

I did the same thing as you, started off with a PRO-1150HD and after (3) weeks exchanged it for a PRO-150FD. Both panels were/are perfect so far as PDPs go. As long as BB will keep honoring your exchanges, then go for it and keep doing so until you get one that is satisfactory. Good luck.

Now that Pioneer has previewed their extreme tech PDPs... I'm getting ready to "pull the plug" on my PRO-150FD with it's gray blacks.

In a word, "No."

I play both my PS3 and 360 on my 6010. I've played Bioshock and CoD4 for up to four or five hours straight. Haven't noticed any IR at all. I use the Game mode when playing and keep the orbiter on.

Well said... and I share your pet peeve.

I was playing COD4 last night on my 6010, and I shut the PS3 off at 11:00pm. What I failed to do was turn off the TV (stupid frigin mistake). I walked down through the basement to the garage at 6:30 this morning to leave for work and I realized the TV was still on, but it was the black screen for no signal.

My question for AVS world is, how concerned do I need to be? I turned on the video pattern program this morning when I realized the TV was still on, but I am still a worried?

Thanks all.

In a reaction, **cry**

Then what is the utility of that audio output?

It will output 5.1 Audio when the input is either OTA or cable card only.

This may be a long shot ( I have a 110FD which has a very, very slight buzz when I put my ear about 6 inches from the lower left of the panel and is completely inaudible from any viewing distance), but numerous people have noticed objectionable buzzing and some (myself included) have noticed popping/cracking sounds from panel heating/cooling (mine have not been serious enough to bother me). Since these sounds have not been uniformly present in identical locations in all cases and since the popping/cracking sounds have been resolved by removing the back and retorquing the sub-chassis screws: it is possible the the buzzing sounds may also be related to a slight deformation of the panel due to uneven tightness of the sub-chassis screws? This may be worthy of investigation and might lead to a method of ameliorating the buzz problem.