The Official Pioneer 8G KURO Owner's Discussions Thread - Page 565

I believe the PAL models have 100hz and 75hz drive modes. If it's set to 75, change to 100.

Does the Pioneer Elite Pro1150 Kuro have a cable card slot on the back? If so, how many 1 or 2?

Anybody here use different speaker attachments for the 6010? I am wall mounting my tv but do not want to wall mount the speaker. I also dont want to have turn on my receiver everytime i watch tv. Looking for an alternative... anybody with some suggestions? I was thinking about trying my old Klipsch Promedia computer speakers to see if that would do the trick. any other ideas would be appreciated. TIA.

Get a universal remote so you can power on your TV and receiver with a single click of a button.

Yeah, i have one, but i feel like it is such a waste of energy for every time i turn on my receiver, the amp comes on as well. Trying to go energy efficient.

Well Plasma TVs are a HUGE HUGE power hog and are by far the worst kind of TV to own if you want to be green. So I doubt an extra lighbulb's worth of power, or less, adds up to much considering the TV is sucking up 10x or more.

Well that depends on the wattage of the bulb. Standard 60w is definitely using way more than 1/10th the power of a plasma.

Hi all, it's been a while.

So over Christmas I switched the source for my 5010FD from an HTPC to a Sony S350 BluRay and a Yamaha 1800 (in order to [finally] get true HD audio.)

However, I have been noticing some "jitter" or at least more "graininess" when running the player in 1080/24P mode. With a 24p source it seems that PureCinema to "Advance" works best (which seemed odd since DNice said Pioneer never really got the 72hz Advance mode "right.")

This post

Seems to sum up everything as best as I can find, but is of course inconclusive...

I am driving myself crazy switching between these options without any calibrator tools...in your opinion, should I:

a) Keep the BluRay at 24P and the 5010 in Advance mode
b) Keep the BluRay at 24P and the 5010 with PureCinema "off" [per that post (shockingly it looks almost the same as Advance)]
c) Just turn off 1080/24P on the BluRay and turn off PureCinema on the TV
d) Do something else...

Thanks for your help!

I thought that the pioneers automatically switched to "advance" mode when they received a 24p signal?

this is a myth. unless you have figures from in person testing that we don't know about, it's just wrong. here:

"Here is a revealing comparison between 2 1080p 42" models.

Sony KDL-42V4100
42" BRAVIA® V-Series 1080p LCD HDTV
Power Consumption
Power On (Manufacturer) 240 in use watts
Standby (Manufacturer) 0.10 watts
Power On (Crutchfield-tested) 238.73 watts
Standby (Crutchfield-tested) 0.05 watts
Estimated Cost per Month (Crutchfield-tested) $4.36

Panasonic TH-42PZ80U
42" VIERA® 1080p plasma HDTV
Power On (Manufacturer) 573 maximum watts
Standby (Manufacturer) 0.20 watts
Power On (Crutchfield-tested) 169.53 watts
Standby (Crutchfield-tested) 0.09 watts
Estimated Cost per Month (Crutchfield-tested) $3.10

So, a superior more realistic picture, way better contrast ratios, infinitely superior black levels, no lag like lcd, no motion blur like lcd AND less power consumption."

one example. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage679688/pg1

here is data from my 60" pio (at pic mode = standard)

standby 25w
all black 63W
all white 585W
regular tv viewing - fluctuating 100+ to 500 W

(not sure to call it more or less)

What the heck is that thing doing in standby mode to use that much more power than the Panasonic? I understand it's a 60" vs. a 42", but to go from 0.09 to 25?

I believe Pioneer had reasons for a higher standby power level, perhaps it was to avoid the need for a slight "warmup" period each time the set is turned on. On the other hand, the Pioneers seem to be more energy efficient while they are on. I remember checking, a while back, manufacturer's specs on power consumption and found that the Panasonics seemed to use about 30% more power than the Pioneers of the same size. I notice too, for example, that my 60" PRO-150FD runs surprisingly cool for a plasma, even after it has been on for a long time.

Could be the TV Guide feature.

The 9G's are less, they at least are going in the right direction, ~0.3 W Standby

good question...there are several posts (e.g., unhappy posters) on this issue. a few have said they unplug the tv when not in use to conserve power.

the delta from 20+ to 0.3 is amazing ...i wonder how they did it.


when i took the measurements, i didn't think it could be due to TVGOS. also, per the manual, the tvgos collects data in the middle of the night. anyway,. now you got me curious and i'll try to take new data with tvgos disabled.

sounds reasonable...like my old sony TUBE tv that kept some current going to the pic tube so the startup was very fast.

+1 on the coolness too...i have two pio's and i have tried at numerous occasions to catch the fans in running mode but they are always off and the top of the back panel is generally just warm to touch

I'd rather just turn off an extra light bulb.

i advised them against that as i don't think the tv likes to be unplugged/plugged every day. plus, it screws up the cablecard and tvguide every time the ac is unplugged

Thanks for your response!

I think that is the core of my question: Even after reading almost everything I could on my beloved tv I never heard about this until this inquiry. I am currently watching a movie running at 24P and it seems to play fine with PureCinema "off." (This was not something I even tried before; but come to think of it, "true" 24fps would be essentially unwatchable.)

It is difficult to compare these settings by eye (even with the "previous" switch one has to catch a good panning scene) so it has been tough to tell if "Advance" is doing anything different than "off." (And it is certainly difficult to tell the difference after stopping the BluRay and reloading just to switch the player back to 60fps.)

not sure where you're getting this. all film cinema is 24fps in the theaters in originally shot fps. And it looks fine. that's why 24p is important, it retains motion true to the original shooting.

Film is 24fps, but each frame is "held" until the next frame snaps into place. If you tried playing a true 24fps on a TV, without showing each frame multiple times, it would flicker BAD. The TV's response time is way too fast, and each frame would die away before the next came along creating bad flicker.

I'm a little confused with the "Deep Color" function, can I enable and take advantage of this aspect on my 8G Kuro display since I'm using one of the new Elite BD players?

I'm using A Pioneer PDP-43280HD Kuro display along with a BDP-05FD player (connected through an NAD T175 surround processor). Is there a setting on this display to enable Deep Color?

[quote=WestCoastD;15501931]I'm a little confused with the "Deep Color" function, can I enable and take advantage of this aspect on my 8G Kuro display since I'm using one of the new Elite BD players?/QUOTE]Unless you create it yourself, there's no Deep Color source material at this time.

[quote=htwaits;15502006]
I think his question was whether the new Pioneer Elite BD players would interpolate non-deep color sources like BD discs and smooth out the gradients using the additional bit-depth of deep color. If so, would his 8G take advantage of that fact?

Yes, but so far I haven't read about any Blu-ray player delivering on that promise. Pioneer claims to, but I can't varify that.

yes, that was essentially my question (thanks for re-interpretting for me)........


I see, thanks.....

I've got a 5010 hooked up to an onkyo 905 receiver. A circuit to them was flipped while both were off and hooked up to a power bar but since then I can't get a picture on the 5010 from the receiver although I can bring the menus up. Any idea what may be causing the problem and what can be done?

Check your A/V receiver settings. I would also check with an owner's thread for your receiver.