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post #17011 of 17517
2/12/09 at 8:00pm
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I bought a 6010FD last April from John Marty at Axxis Audio. It is the most perfect piece of electronic equipment I have ever bought. I'm still amazed every time I turn it on. Even with it off it's a great piece of work.


I find it amazing that after the first 3 months of a new car purchase,I find the luster and pride of ownership dwindles quite a bit...however,I am still amazed at the performance of my Elite after 6 months.....I really don't see the dew coming off this rose for quite a long,long while.
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post #17012 of 17517
2/13/09 at 9:12am
Same here, thank God I got my 6010FD. Wouldn't mind a 6020 instead, but I am not complaining. I love it.
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post #17013 of 17517
2/13/09 at 10:11pm
After almost two weeks, both my panels got the TV guide info back.... Darn that Comcast Cable.

Been tied up reading the thread on the end of Pioneer in the TV business - sad times for many.

Glad to have our 8Gs - still amazing to watch and hope to enjoy them for many years...
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post #17014 of 17517
2/14/09 at 11:01am
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Originally Posted by duck05 View Post

... The end of pioneer in the tv business - sad times for many.

glad to have our 8gs - still amazing to watch and hope to enjoy them for many years...

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post #17015 of 17517
2/14/09 at 9:22pm
HI i just recently purcahased a 5010 and i noticed a humming/buzzing sound coming from the panel any ideas?? and also how long does it take to get burn in when playing games when it is brand new?? thanks
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post #17016 of 17517
2/14/09 at 9:44pm
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Originally Posted by Paullouisj View Post

HI i just recently purcahased a 5010 and i noticed a humming/buzzing sound coming from the panel any ideas?? and also how long does it take to get burn in when playing games when it is brand new?? thanks

Hum/Buzz is pretty normal, mine has it but its not bad, when there's sound you can't hear it, if the scene has no sound occassionally I will notice it, but its not bad.

Yours may be worse? But give it a few days and you wont really hear it anymore. The PQ on the 5010 is awesome btw, I hope you enjoy your tv
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post #17017 of 17517
2/15/09 at 8:09am
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Originally Posted by Duck05 View Post

Glad to have our 8Gs - still amazing to watch and hope to enjoy them for many years...


+1 here as well!
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post #17018 of 17517
2/15/09 at 8:33am
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Originally Posted by hodges69 View Post

I find it amazing that after the first 3 months of a new car purchase,I find the luster and pride of ownership dwindles quite a bit...however,I am still amazed at the performance of my Elite after 6 months.....I really don't see the dew coming off this rose for quite a long,long while.

Elite's are awesome tv's. I've only seen two sets that look better than mine, one was an elite version of the 6020 and the other was the 151FD. Superb picture, absolutely stunning...and mine isn't half bad, but those two literally made my jaw drop.
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post #17019 of 17517
2/15/09 at 11:35am
Can some one ANswer this!!!???? How may hours lamp life is the 5010 rated pioneer claims all the 2008 have 60,000 so what about the 2007 5010??? why is this info so hard to come by?? THanks
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post #17020 of 17517
2/15/09 at 11:38am
PQ is amazing better than my old panny and new sammys 650 and 750 120 hz etc.. makes me a lil more tired since my eyes are distracted by the unreal movement.. and it is unreal imo..(120hz) the humming seems to only be audible when no sound or low volume ... but super thrilled about finally owning a pioneer... NOt a deal breaker yet..
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post #17021 of 17517
2/15/09 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by Paullouisj View Post

Can some one ANswer this!!!???? How may hours lamp life is the 5010 rated pioneer claims all the 2008 have 60,000 so what about the 2007 5010??? why is this info so hard to come by?? THanks

It's hard to get an answer to a bad question . There are no lamp in the plasma TV's. There is an estimated life of the plasma panel, and that one you may get an answer to.
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post #17022 of 17517
2/15/09 at 4:27pm
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Originally Posted by Paullouisj View Post

Can some one ANswer this!!!???? How may hours lamp life is the 5010 rated pioneer claims all the 2008 have 60,000 so what about the 2007 5010??? why is this info so hard to come by?? THanks

Uhhh its a plasma, there is no lamp, the half life on the panel is 60,000 hours.
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post #17023 of 17517
2/15/09 at 7:10pm
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Can some one ANswer this!!!???? How may hours lamp life is the 5010 rated pioneer claims all the 2008 have 60,000 so what about the 2007 5010??? why is this info so hard to come by?? THanks

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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post

Uhhh its a plasma, there is no lamp, the half life on the panel is 60,000 hours.

.....and what it means is that the plasma panel's brightness will diminish to "half" of the original brightness, not total death. in LCD's the lamps just dies so the rated hours indicate life at which the lamp is expected to kick the bucket.

even @10hrs/day watching, 60000 hrs means 16+ yrs if life. imho, your tv is likely to die of other causes or suffer other failures that may be not cost-effective to repair.
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post #17024 of 17517
2/15/09 at 7:14pm
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Originally Posted by drgkja View Post

.....and what it means is that the plasma panel's brightness will diminish to "half" of the original brightness, not total death. in LCD's the lamps just dies so the rated hours indicate life at which the lamp is expected to kick the bucket.

even @10hrs/day watching, 60000 hrs means 16+ yrs if life. imho, your tv is likely to die of other causes or suffer other failures that may be not cost-effective to repair.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if teh half life on the 7 and especially the 8 G's is closer to 100,000 hours. That is the norm now and the 8g's so far seem to show very little falloff in brightness from what I've read.
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post #17025 of 17517
2/15/09 at 7:16pm
today is the second time in two wks my 8G lost the tv guide (all channels
show "NO LISTING"). it back came the last time after repeating the setup...and just done that again...let's what happens tomorrow am.

i have a 7G also and the guide keeps working fine on that so i am beginning to wonder is it it the tv

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Originally Posted by Duck05 View Post

After almost two weeks, both my panels got the TV guide info back.... Darn that Comcast Cable.

Been tied up reading the thread on the end of Pioneer in the TV business - sad times for many.

Glad to have our 8Gs - still amazing to watch and hope to enjoy them for many years...
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post #17026 of 17517
2/15/09 at 7:21pm
i think you are right...my 7G has over 8000 hrs and I see "no noticeable" reduction in brightness- none at all.

my 8G, however, is very young and hoping it will be even better than the 7G

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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if teh half life on the 7 and especially the 8 G's is closer to 100,000 hours. That is the norm now and the 8g's so far seem to show very little falloff in brightness from what I've read.
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post #17027 of 17517
2/15/09 at 7:40pm
Sorry i was thinkin lcd but thanks for clarifying that up..
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post #17028 of 17517
2/15/09 at 8:46pm
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Originally Posted by drgkja View Post

today is the second time in two wks my 8G lost the tv guide (all channels
show "NO LISTING"). it back came the last time after repeating the setup...and just done that again...let's what happens tomorrow am.

i have a 7G also and the guide keeps working fine on that so i am beginning to wonder is it it the tv

I'm convinced it is not the TV as I have two 8Gs and they both lose the listings together and "recover" at the same time so it has to be Comcast somehow blocking the info and then not - for whatever reason.....
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post #17029 of 17517
2/15/09 at 9:14pm
thanks for letting me know..it is comforing.

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Originally Posted by Duck05 View Post

I'm convinced it is not the TV as I have two 8Gs and they both lose the listings together and "recover" at the same time so it has to be Comcast somehow blocking the info and then not - for whatever reason.....
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post #17030 of 17517
2/16/09 at 5:11pm
My question to you guys I have this Pioneer PDP-5010FD Kuro plasma (Coming this week) and I was wondering how should I hook up satellite to it. Satellite means European satellite which (Addition to Directv I have a second satellite) I watch soccer etc. only and picture is pretty much horrible no HD at all. My question is I heard Pioneer upscales pictures excellent and Denon also upconverts these pictures. How should I hook that satellite to my system if I go through Denon what should the hook up would be or wise versa. Thanks a million.
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post #17031 of 17517
2/16/09 at 8:04pm
New 5010 (111 coming soon also ), wondering about break-in.

Is it okay to run images thru USB for break-in, or is DVD the preferred method? I know with the 9G, thumbdrive seems to be the choice, but having looked through the settings thread, I see little mention - I only see DVD break-in. Is there anything wrong or anything that I should be concerned with using a thumbdrive for break-in on the 5010?
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post #17032 of 17517
2/17/09 at 9:39am
There was some question on whether the TVGOS would keep working on the 6010, so I wrote TV guide customer care. They had me provide the TVGOS version number (09.01.46/00.00.00/00.00.00/000/00050048/64/0000) and the reply I got was:

"There are some guide versions that can only pick up the guide in the analog format but your device is not one of those. The guide version that you have should have no problem picking up the TV Guide data after the digital transition."
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post #17033 of 17517
2/19/09 at 8:03pm
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Originally Posted by Duck05 View Post

I'm convinced it is not the TV as I have two 8Gs and they both lose the listings together and "recover" at the same time so it has to be Comcast somehow blocking the info and then not - for whatever reason.....

there is something fishy going on wrt the TVGOS and the 8G. while i tend to agree it is not (or may not be) the tv but i can't explain this either: in addition to the the 8G, i have a 3-yr old 7G and a 3-yr panny DMR-75xx..both connected to the same cable (as the 8G)....neither has ever lost the guide in 3 years. where as the 8G lost the guide 3 times in one year; twice in the last 2 weeks. last time it took 3 days to come back.

btw, the TVGOS version in 8G is different (i guess newer)

since the other devices never lost the guide, logically i cannot blame the cable.

so what is the 8G doing different??
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post #17034 of 17517
2/19/09 at 8:12pm
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Originally Posted by JFinch View Post

There was some question on whether the TVGOS would keep working on the 6010, so I wrote TV guide customer care. They had me provide the TVGOS version number (09.01.46/00.00.00/00.00.00/000/00050048/64/0000) and the reply I got was:

"There are some guide versions that can only pick up the guide in the analog format but your device is not one of those. The guide version that you have should have no problem picking up the TV Guide data after the digital transition."

not sure if there are any more details in their answer but this implies the reading of data from digital channel (the PSIP part) is a function of the guide version, not the tv....any clue? possibly the guide version is tied to only those "devices" that are capable of reading the PSIP steam.

i have an 8G and a 7G and am wondering about the guide after the transition. taking your lead, i'll write to them to
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post #17035 of 17517
2/20/09 at 7:30am
So far, the TVGOS on my 150FD is still functioning as always. I did a rescan of the channels yesterday, just in case there had been any changes in the channels. In my area there were none, except for a few more subchannels. The TVGOS and its settings were not affected by the rescan at all. I certainly hope it does continue to work after June 12!
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post #17036 of 17517
2/22/09 at 6:07pm
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Originally Posted by HarrisonS View Post

So far, the TVGOS on my 150FD is still functioning as always. I did a rescan of the channels yesterday, just in case there had been any changes in the channels. In my area there were none, except for a few more subchannels. The TVGOS and its settings were not affected by the rescan at all. I certainly hope it does continue to work after June 12!

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Originally Posted by drgkja View Post

there is something fishy going on wrt the TVGOS and the 8G. while i tend to agree it is not (or may not be) the tv but i can't explain this either: in addition to the the 8G, i have a 3-yr old 7G and a 3-yr panny DMR-75xx..both connected to the same cable (as the 8G)....neither has ever lost the guide in 3 years. where as the 8G lost the guide 3 times in one year; twice in the last 2 weeks. last time it took 3 days to come back.

btw, the TVGOS version in 8G is different (i guess newer)

since the other devices never lost the guide, logically i cannot blame the cable.

so what is the 8G doing different??

8G lost tvgos again this morning.. as always, 7G is dong fine.

any one knows if there is a clue (as to any memory or other data issues) in the diagnostics pages of the tvgos?
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post #17037 of 17517
2/22/09 at 7:08pm
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Originally Posted by drgkja View Post

8G lost tvgos again this morning.. as always, 7G is dong fine.

any one knows if there is a clue (as to any memory or other data issues) in the diagnostics pages of the tvgos?

To add to the pile, today my 6010FD lost the guide info but the 5010FD so far is okay. They are connected to the same Comcast Cable service so now I'm not sure what is going on as before they both lost and recovered the info in unison.

Pretty sure in a couple of days or so the 6010 will be back...... (but I will be out of town for a few days so will report back later......)
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post #17038 of 17517
2/22/09 at 8:10pm
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Originally Posted by Duck05 View Post

To add to the pile, today my 6010FD lost the guide info but the 5010FD so far is okay. They are connected to the same Comcast Cable service so now I'm not sure what is going on as before they both lost and recovered the info in unison.

Pretty sure in a couple of days or so the 6010 will be back...... (but I will be out of town for a few days so will report back later......)

duck05..thanks for your your quick post...since you are facing the same situation, i am again feeling optimistic it is not the memory issue with the 8G.

further i scrolled through the diagnostic pages and compared the 8g and the 7G. it seems (just my guess) the difference may be where the the two guides are looking for data. the 8G has many fields filled in on the ATSC fields where as the 7G is empty there... and that may be the cause if the cable co is still experimenting with the tvgos data on digital channels
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post #17039 of 17517
2/23/09 at 7:49pm
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Originally Posted by drgkja View Post

duck05..thanks for your your quick post...since you are facing the same situation, i am again feeling optimistic it is not the memory issue with the 8G.

further i scrolled through the diagnostic pages and compared the 8g and the 7G. it seems (just my guess) the difference may be where the the two guides are looking for data. the 8G has many fields filled in on the ATSC fields where as the 7G is empty there... and that may be the cause if the cable co is still experimenting with the tvgos data on digital channels

It is very odd on the timing of all this turmoil leading up to the "over the air" change to digital (which was supposed to not even impact cable at all) broadcasts - curious.

And, oh by the way, my 6010FD's guide came back today - impacted only 1 1/2 days this time.....(and did not think it would recover so soon...).
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post #17040 of 17517
2/23/09 at 9:20pm
my came back this morning too..btw, i'm in morris co, nj, served by cablevision.

it think we have to get used to this hide & seek with TVGOS

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Originally Posted by Duck05 View Post

It is very odd on the timing of all this turmoil leading up to the "over the air" change to digital (which was supposed to not even impact cable at all) broadcasts - curious.

And, oh by the way, my 6010FD's guide came back today - impacted only 1 1/2 days this time.....(and did not think it would recover so soon...).
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