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post #17461 of 17538
I have had some issues with my 5010 that were perplexing. not exactly your problem, but ... After checking the optical cable (that's a good idea ), trying unplugging the power cable for a couple of minutes, then plug it in back in and restart the display. That has fixed my issues more then any other single solution, it seems like sometimes the display's software / firmware just gets hung / crashes in some function and the only way to fix it is to remove all power long enough that the power supply is drained of all power.
post #17462 of 17538
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Originally Posted by crose007 View Post

I have had some issues with my 5010 that were perplexing. not exactly your problem, but ... After checking the optical cable (that's a good idea ), trying unplugging the power cable for a couple of minutes, then plug it in back in and restart the display. That has fixed my issues more then any other single solution, it seems like sometimes the display's software / firmware just gets hung / crashes in some function and the only way to fix it is to remove all power long enough that the power supply is drained of all power.
You're rebooting your computer which is disguised as a display. wink.gif
post #17463 of 17538
Hi,

I've recently got my hands on a Pdp-4280xd it was my brother in laws but he got a new telly and let me have it!.
It's got about 4000 hours panel time and I've been on the 8G kuro thread and used D-Nice's settings.
The picture has incredible blacks and very vivid colours but I'm finding the dot crawl very noisy and
I do find I get some motion delay when things move across the screen.

I don't know if Anyone still comes on here but I'd really appreciate anyones help or a discussion to advise me please.

Cheers,
Scott.
post #17464 of 17538
Well I had a scare with my 5080HD today, Turned it on and it wouldnt display a picture from any inputs, The home menu would come up and pressing the various input buttons showed the input display in upper right as usual, but just had a black screen on everything, no audio either. (tried cable box / wii / 360 / ps3 inputs).

I turned it off and pressed the power cutoff button on front bezel but this didnt help.

Finally I turned off the power strip that the TV is plugged into for 2 minutes, turned it back on and everything is normal now, picture is back.

Any ideas what might of happened? confused.gif

First time Ive encountered this in the 5 years I've owned it.
post #17465 of 17538
This happened to me once several years ago. Haven't seen it again since.
post #17466 of 17538
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Originally Posted by hoagy View Post

This happened to me once several years ago. Haven't seen it again since.

Well that's good to hear, so far it has been behaving normally since it happened so hopefully just a fluke occurrence.
post #17467 of 17538
I own a Kuro 6010 and recently had an issue with the DirecTv external output to HDMI. I think this was caused by a bad lightning storm the other day. It is very possible that it is my Yamaha receiver HDMI input/output that could be the problem as well. I had to change my set up from HDMI to component cables to get the picture to work. My main question is am I losing any picture quality by using component cables via input 3 on the 6010 compared to using HDMI cables via input 4 on the 6010? Doesn't components give the same quality picture?

My set up us is as follows:
Pioneer Kuro 6010
Direc TV HR21-200 (HD DVR)
Yamaha Rx-v663 (Receiver)
PS3 Blu-Ray player

I called DirecTV and they said the signal is coming in okay, and think it is an input or defective HDMI cable. I tried hooking the HDMI cable up directly to the TV inputs (tried all 4 inputs) and still no picture. I tried using different HDMI cables to see if that was the issue, and still no picture. I then hooked up the direcTV to the Kuro 6010 using Component cables and the picture now works. Also, I hooked up my PS3 directly to the 6010 and the picture works fine. I just had to hook my ps3 audio up via fiber optic cable, but it does work now. So this means that the 6010 inputs are still working fine since I can get my PS3 to hook up to input 4. The PS3 was originally connectd to the receiver, and then out to the 6010, but it was not working the previous way through my stereo. It must either be an issue with the DirecTV HDMI output or the Yamaha receiver input/ouput.

I guess this means I have to use component cables unless I want to replace my Direc TV HD DVR box? It could also be my Yamaha receiver input/output issue as well. Am I missing something here?
post #17468 of 17538
It seems to me if you can see picture when all is connected to the 6010, but not the AVR to the 6010, it is the AVR.
post #17469 of 17538
I think you may be right. However, it could still be the HDMI out connector from the cable box. Since when I tried to connect from the cable box to the TV input 4 it still showed no picture. Maybe both are broken. However, the odds are very slim that both would be causing the issue. Everything was working great for 4 1/2 years until the lighting storm.
post #17470 of 17538
The cable box is bad as well. We have changed cable boxes for a lot less than lightening storms, they just break!
post #17471 of 17538
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Originally Posted by gatorstrat View Post

I think you may be right. However, it could still be the HDMI out connector from the cable box. Since when I tried to connect from the cable box to the TV input 4 it still showed no picture. Maybe both are broken. However, the odds are very slim that both would be causing the issue. Everything was working great for 4 1/2 years until the lighting storm.
Will DirecTV exchange your box? If that's possible then you will be able to analyze your problem. With lightning, I wouldn't count on anything. All you can do is simplify, which is what you've started to do, and check one thing at a time.

Component is not as good as digital, but you may not be able to tell the difference. What you're doing now is converting digital to analog, and then back to digital in the display.
post #17472 of 17538
I spoke with DirecTv on the box and since the HD DVR box still is able to work via HD component cables, they won't switch out the box. I was kind of surprised since I won't be able to download 1080p movies via Video on Demand? Components only get up to 1080i. So does converting from digital to analog, and then back to digital make a difference? I don't like my picture as much as I did anymore. Part of this is that in my original set up, the other HDMI input 4 on my 6010 TV has my picture settings set to user. Now that I am using Component 3 inputs I have to still play with the picture settings to get it how I like it.

Does anybody have any generic picture settings for a Pioneer 6010 that is calibrated with HD component cables via input 3? I saw on one post where D-Nice had some custom settings for a DVD player. Are these picture settings that D-Nice put together recommended for DirecTV HD viewing as well?
post #17473 of 17538
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Originally Posted by gatorstrat View Post

I spoke with DirecTv on the box and since the HD DVR box still is able to work via HD component cables, they won't switch out the box. I was kind of surprised since I won't be able to download 1080p movies via Video on Demand?
What great customer service. Did you try going higher up the management chain, or indicating that you have other options for service?
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So does converting from digital to analog, and then back to digital make a difference?
Yes, and I'm assuming that you're paying for digital service and are not getting what you paid for.
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I don't like my picture as much as I did anymore.
It's hard to tell if the extra conversions are what you're seeing.
post #17474 of 17538
"I spoke with DirecTv on the box and since the HD DVR box still is able to work via HD component cables, they won't switch out the box"


Talk to someone in customer retention...tell them that you feel you are not getting what you are paying for and threaten to cancel..even if there are months remaining on your agreement...threaten,stating that you are so angry at this point you are willing to forgo the rest of the agreement and switch to cable or dish...I have Directv ..and I would not put up with this kind of crap....assuming that the problem lies within the parameters you described...
post #17475 of 17538
Hey all. 5010 still running strong as day one smile.gif
post #17476 of 17538
I may of asked this in the past but don't recall getting any feedback, I'm curious if the 8G Kuros have a form of burn in protection that would cause the screen to become temporarily dimmer the longer it's exposed to a static screen.

Example: I'm playing a game last night and paused it, I was away longer than expected (about 15 minutes) and when I continued playing the overall brightness was markedly dimmer, the screen gradually returns back to normal brightness after a few minutes of playing, this symptom only occurs when the TV is exposed to a static screen for awhile, regardless of source material or input. (Cablebox, ps3,360,wii etc.)

I'm not aware of any settings that would cause this but could be wrong, the TV is normally ran in Standard AV mode with the DRE setting on Low, Power saving is disabled.

Just curious if anyone else has noticed this, TV is a 5080HD.
Edited by Mathesar - 11/22/12 at 12:31pm
post #17477 of 17538
Mathesar:

With my Pioneer FHD1 and PlayStation3, when I'm watching a BluRay movie and I pause it and walk away for a while eventually it goes quite dark (2% brightness). I assume that's the PlayStation3. If, after that, I push play, the FHD1 seems to come back on at about 90% brightness. Over the next 5 or 10 minutes it works its way back to 100%.
post #17478 of 17538
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Originally Posted by BasementBob View Post

Mathesar:
With my Pioneer FHD1 and PlayStation3, when I'm watching a BluRay movie and I pause it and walk away for a while eventually it goes quite dark (2% brightness). I assume that's the PlayStation3. If, after that, I push play, the FHD1 seems to come back on at about 90% brightness. Over the next 5 or 10 minutes it works its way back to 100%.

Yep the PS3 / 360 etc. will go into a darkened state on their own after long enough inactivity, The symptoms you describe after pressing play pretty much matches mine except the brightness seems to be more in the 70-80% range and gradually works its way back up to 100% in 4-5 minutes.

I guess its one of those features thats not very well documented or noticed, Thanks for the reply.
post #17479 of 17538
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Originally Posted by Mathesar View Post

Well I had a scare with my 5080HD today, Turned it on and it wouldnt display a picture from any inputs, The home menu would come up and pressing the various input buttons showed the input display in upper right as usual, but just had a black screen on everything, no audio either. (tried cable box / wii / 360 / ps3 inputs).
I turned it off and pressed the power cutoff button on front bezel but this didnt help.
Finally I turned off the power strip that the TV is plugged into for 2 minutes, turned it back on and everything is normal now, picture is back.
Any ideas what might of happened? confused.gif
First time Ive encountered this in the 5 years I've owned it.

The 8Gs have a Unix operating system in the background that runs mainly the guide services. Most of the functions in our area no longer work as the cable operators filter out signals and force their cable boxes onto their customers.

Fully killling the power and disconnecting from the power strip for a few minutes causes the TV to reload the Unix system and I have found that this corrects the condition(s) you described. The channel guide setup routine no longer works for me as only a few hand full of digital channels come through the "raw" cable - everything else now requires a cable box. Supposedly if you put all zeros (00000) in the zip code box of the setup will "disable" the guide but I have not found that to work in our area.
post #17480 of 17538
I was looking at getting the Polk 6000 soundbar http://www.polkaudio.com/products/surroundbar6000 to use with my 5080. I was thinking it would be as simple as connecting the bar to my tv with an optical cable but all i'm reading is that no sound will be emitted from the bar as all my devices are connected to the tv via hdmi.frown.gif

Can anyone tell me what or how to go about connecting a soundbar to this tv. Will sound pass using the optical if I connect my devices (directv, xbox etc) with component? Thanks for any help.
post #17481 of 17538
It certainly wont pass through digital surround sound ex. DTS, It may dumb it down to stereo. Its more likely the only digital sound that will out put this plasma's optical output is from TV's tv tunner. You'll have to run your components directly into your soundbar. If your sound bar as well as one of your components have coaxial then you can at least have two digital connections plugged in at the same time. Otherwise you could do what I did and buy this optical switch and plug 3 optical device into it and it plugs into your soundbar
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10423&cs_id=1042302&p_id=2946&seq=1&format=2
post #17482 of 17538
lately when turning on my 5010, for a second while the screen is black, I'm seeing a reddish splotch taking up most of the center of the screen. Anyone else getting this? It isn't noticeable once the picture comes up. I just wonder if the red gasses are wearing over time and changing somehow.
post #17483 of 17538
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Originally Posted by teevman View Post

I was looking at getting the Polk 6000 soundbar http://www.polkaudio.com/products/surroundbar6000 to use with my 5080. I was thinking it would be as simple as connecting the bar to my tv with an optical cable but all i'm reading is that no sound will be emitted from the bar as all my devices are connected to the tv via hdmi.frown.gif
Can anyone tell me what or how to go about connecting a soundbar to this tv. Will sound pass using the optical if I connect my devices (directv, xbox etc) with component? Thanks for any help.

The optical output from the set's tuner will indeed pass whatever channel configuration is being transmitted, up to 5.1 surround. I have always used this connection between my PRO-150FD and Denon receiver. The receiver always reports exactly what channel configuration it is passing.
post #17484 of 17538
I'm finally an owner of a Pioneer Kuro 6010! Bought it "broken" on CL for $200. Had the 8 & 12 blinking lights, bought the main board for $60 and now everything works perfect. I have a question with audio. I'm pairing it with an Onkyo receiver using an optical out from the pioneer to the receivers optical in. Ive got the dvr going to the pioneer component and an xbox and apple tv to hdmis. Essentially the audio is supposed to come out of the receiver speakers no matter what input correct? Because the only sound I'm hearing is when I go to the dvr input via component. I can't get any audio with the hdmis. I'm trying to find a setting where the TV uses the hdmi only for video and uses the optical for sound. Or is it something else I'm missing? Need help!
post #17485 of 17538
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Originally Posted by ajsimeon View Post

I'm finally an owner of a Pioneer Kuro 6010! Bought it "broken" on CL for $200. Had the 8 & 12 blinking lights, bought the main board for $60 and now everything works perfect. I have a question with audio. I'm pairing it with an Onkyo receiver using an optical out from the pioneer to the receivers optical in. Ive got the dvr going to the pioneer component and an xbox and apple tv to hdmis. Essentially the audio is supposed to come out of the receiver speakers no matter what input correct? Because the only sound I'm hearing is when I go to the dvr input via component. I can't get any audio with the hdmis. I'm trying to find a setting where the TV uses the hdmi only for video and uses the optical for sound. Or is it something else I'm missing? Need help!

You can not route audio to the 6010 via HDMI and get it back to your Onkyo via the TV optical out back to the receiver. Only audio from the tuner or other analog inputs will traverse the optical from the TV....

You have to connect the HDMI inputs to the receiver and then HDMI to the TV (for video) for the sound to be played by the receiver. Any HDMI devices connected to the TV can only be heard by the attached speaker on the TV.

My 6010 is 5 years plus in service and still a great picture....
post #17486 of 17538
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Originally Posted by Duck05 View Post


My 6010 is 5 years plus in service and still a great picture....
Same here. smile.gif

Jeff Meier (UMR) has calibrated it twice so it's just like new. That's not right, it's better. biggrin.gif
post #17487 of 17538
Jeff calibrated my panel, too..... Have yet to see a better picture anywhere..... We are spoiled.....
post #17488 of 17538
I have a 5.5 year old PRO-150FD that still renders a great picture. One thing I have always been curious about is seeing a side-by-side comparison of the images generated by an 8G/9G Kuro to see just how improved the performance of the 9G panels are.

BTW, is the whole reddish tint issue confined to the 9G displays? I see absolutely no problems with my PDP.
post #17489 of 17538
Thx Duck05. I've got to get a new receiver since it only does hdmi video pass through. I still can't believe I got a perfectly working now 6010 for $260. It's got 7000 hours but looks like the previous owner loved the dynamic mode. Would that impact how bright the set is now? Using Dnice's settings the picture is just not eye popping like I expected. Maybe I need professional calibration? The blacks are way better than the cheap 60" Sharp that I just sold because of this deal. However it's not as deep as the LG 47le8500 in my bedroom or as eye popping. I know plasmas daytime viewing is not the strength so I'm comparing it during night time viewing. Maybe I was expecting more from this set and I dang well sure know I shouldn't be complaining because of this deal but for everything I've heard about Pioneer Kuros I wasn't as blown away as I thought. The set looks wonderful don't get me wrong but my eyes find my LG 8500 more impressive. Like I said would a calibration make this set go to its full potential?
post #17490 of 17538
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Originally Posted by ajsimeon View Post

Like I said would a calibration make this set go to its full potential?
Unless there is still something wrong with your 6010, of course a good professional calibration will get the most out of your new display. If you live in a tour area for either Jeff Meier (UMR at AVS) or D-NIce then I would recommend both of them.

Contact Jeff at: jeff@accucalhd.com
Web site with tour information: http://www.accucalhd.com/

Contact D-Nice (DeWayne Davis) at: info@av-fi.com
Phone: (803) 386-8002

You can check reviews of their work in post number two of the link in the signature area at the bottom of my post.
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