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post #8191 of 17538
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Originally Posted by Busy View Post

Does anyone know whether Pro-110's remote works as remote for PS3? I did not see specific code in the manual.


No.....unfortunately. The PS3 is a bluetooth device. If you go over to the blu ray forums, there is a specific thread dedicated to the PS3 and it has some ways that people have been able to work around this and make an IR remote work with the PS3. Although they're not pretty, lol.
post #8192 of 17538
Has anyone with CATV input checked the "Signal Strength" indicator for their PRO-110/150FD? The value for my PDP is normally in the low 70s, what is yours?
post #8193 of 17538
I took delivery of my 6010 last week and finally finished the install. The picture is amazing. Just watched Superman Returns in HD and was blown away. As soon as I finish some of the cosmetics, I'll post a picture of the install as I am curious what everybody here thinks. It's my first plasma after replacing my 10 year old reliable Sony XBR. Needless to say, technology sure has changed.
post #8194 of 17538
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Originally Posted by optivity View Post

Has anyone with CATV input checked the "Signal Strength" indicator for their PRO-110/150FD? The value for my PDP is normally in the low 70s, what is yours?

How do I do that? Thanks. Ned.
post #8195 of 17538
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Originally Posted by Ayla View Post


Thanks for the reply D-Nice

I'm disappointed that there's no Pure mode in the Europe Elite models.

What settings would I use, if I wanted to approximate the Pure mode as much as possible on my EU Elite model?

For example, should I disable all the NR stuff or?

I would like to try and have my input pass trough the Kuro as "clean" as possible to better measure the effect of my RadianceXD scaler.

Thanks
Martin

There isn't any other mode that is on par with Pure mode. Movie mode is easier to calibrate to D65, but I can get Standard and User mode to look exacly like Movie mode. If anything, make sure you use colorspace 2.
post #8196 of 17538
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Originally Posted by maynerd View Post

I thought it was bluetooth not RF?

bluetooth *is* rf...
post #8197 of 17538
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Originally Posted by Busy View Post

Does anyone know whether Pro-110's remote works as remote for PS3? I did not see specific code in the manual.

PS3 is Blu-tooth. PRO-110FD's remote is IR.
post #8198 of 17538
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Originally Posted by tonydeluce View Post

I believe the rumour is that the gen after next will have half the BL and twice the brightness ( 4X the CR ). Make that in a 75 inch size and I will be moving my PRO-15OFD into the bedroom :-)

Tony, the reason I can't get excited with this is we already have more than enough brightness. I don't think anyone with the current gen Kuro is even close to maxing out their brightness. As to the blacks, as I've said before, we've reached the point of subtle differences. Yes, the Kuros don't achieve absolute black, but they're close enough so that I honestly don't think it will make a significant difference when they do achieve this.

But that's just me.

Of course that 75" size is another story entirely.
post #8199 of 17538
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Originally Posted by danbysbane View Post

Your observations seem to contradict the results of many tests passed by the Kuros. For example:
How could standard mode create deinterlacing errors? It must've been the source...

Just reporting what I saw as did someone else. All I can tell you is that I had the ability to replay that scene over and over in each mode. The only mode that didn't present combing, was the 'off' mode. Don't know why, but it's just what I saw.
post #8200 of 17538
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Originally Posted by Dr.Lobrow View Post

Ken Ross said
"BTW, I'd love to know how the Pioneer VSX-94 impacts on your HDMI switching times. In other words, is it taking the same time, more time or less time when switching from 1 HDMI input to another when going through the receiver as opposed to directly to the 150?
Also, are you using 'pass-through' on the VSX-94 for your HDMI inputs?"

Ken, I can confirm that video switching from SD to HD sources (FIOS Moto box) takes waaaay longer with my Onkyo 875(HDMI) than just the 6010 connected with components. The 875 only will only pass through 1080P sources through the HDMI connx, otherwise they get scaled/de interlaced. I have spent the last few weeks trying to get the Onkyo to pass through the video to no avail. I figured you may want to see what Onkyo's latest HDMI 1.3 receivers were doing.


Thanks Doc. Although that's not exactly what I wanted to hear, I can't say I'm surprised. Are your switching times also longer than direct inputs from HDMI HD source to HDMI HD source?

BTW, I thought that each HDMI input, including 1080i, on the Onkyo could be set to 'pass-through'?
post #8201 of 17538
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

Update on my shimmering pixel issue. I've got 50 hours on the panel. Last night I noticed that I had to specifically look for the shimmering pixels it was a LOT less obvious. It was definitely still there but it was a lot less noticeable. Hopefully this means you guys where right that it would go away after 150 hours. Fingers crossed!

Good news! I also noticed that "smooth" mode seemed to make the shimmering pixels less noticeable to me.
post #8202 of 17538
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Originally Posted by dvdguru View Post

Well, UMR arrived today and calibrated my 150FD. I'm in complete AWE.

Thanks for the calibration report. I've added it to the flat panel list that is linked at the bottom of my post.

Enjoy.
post #8203 of 17538
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

bluetooth *is* rf...

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Originally Posted by SaltiDawg View Post

PS3 is Blu-tooth. PRO-110FD's remote is IR.


Would a programmable remote work with both IR & RF? I've heard these universal remotes are expensive and hard to set up. Does anyone own one?
post #8204 of 17538
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Originally Posted by kuroholic View Post

Would a programmable remote work with both IR & RF? I've heard these universal remotes are expensive and hard to set up. Does anyone own one?

There are remotes that do IR and RF... but the PS3 is Blue-tooth (which is RF but not the same modulation scheme as used in RF controlled A/V devices such as DVR's.)
post #8205 of 17538
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Originally Posted by Mark Paquette View Post

This was my set that Jeff worked on last night.

Thanks for the report. I've added it to the flat panel list that is linked at the bottom of my post.

If anyone is aware of calibration reports that I've missed please PM me.
post #8206 of 17538
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

Just reporting what I saw as did someone else. All I can tell you is that I had the ability to replay that scene over and over in each mode. The only mode that didn't present combing, was the 'off' mode. Don't know why, but it's just what I saw.

I believe you, Ken. It's only that I woudn't jump to conclusions and always set PureCinema to OFF when watching TV. For series and movies, this might create other visible problems.

Maybe your Pio lost the 3:2 sequence at specific frames due to something upstream in the sourcepath (original, channel, DVR).

Also remember that, when enabled, text optimisation cause the PIO to fail deinterlacing properly.
post #8207 of 17538
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Originally Posted by danbysbane View Post

Also remember that, when enabled, text optimisation cause the PIO to fail deinterlacing properly.

Yes, I've always set those to 'off' on both my Kuros.
post #8208 of 17538
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Originally Posted by Ngerstman View Post

How do I do that? Thanks. Ned.

See page 42 of your owner's manual:

Checking signal strength

When you have selected antenna A, you can check the current
channel's signal strength. You may use this function when
receiving a channel through a VHF/UHF antenna.

1 Press HOME MENU.
2 Select Tuner Setup ( / then ENTER).
3 Select Channel Setup ( / then ENTER).
4 Select Ant. A ( / then ENTER).
5 Select Signal Strength ( / then ENTER).

Adjust the direction of the antenna so that the current
signal strength reaches as close to the maximum signal
strength as possible.

6 Press HOME MENU to exit the menu.
post #8209 of 17538
hey if someone can help me out that would be great, im looking to see if theirs a member on avs that owns both the Th-XXPX75u series panasonic and the new pio 5080 or 5010FD pioneer plasma... the xx indicating a 42'' or a 50'' im trying to compare side by side as far as picture quality goes, i watch ****** sd tv from crappy cable and xbox 360 hd and sd dvds finaly lil bit ota hd channels..... so as you can see Sd upscaler is really helpful here....

im coming from owning a crt tube quality ......
post #8210 of 17538
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Originally Posted by gus738 View Post

hey if someone can help me out that would be great, im looking to see if theirs a member on avs that owns both the Th-XXPX75u series panasonic and the new pio 5080 or 5010FD pioneer plasma... the xx indicating a 42'' or a 50'' im trying to compare side by side as far as picture quality goes, i watch ****** sd tv from crappy cable and xbox 360 hd and sd dvds finaly lil bit ota hd channels..... so as you can see Sd upscaler is really helpful here....

im coming from owning a crt tube quality ......

You may want to read the following from an AVS member that was able to do a decent comparison for a Panny and Pio under the Magnolia/BB conditions which are never ideal.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post11956240
post #8211 of 17538
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Originally Posted by danbysbane View Post

Also remember that, when enabled, text optimisation cause the PIO to fail deinterlacing properly.

Then WHY is it set to ON in D-Nice recommended settings?
post #8212 of 17538
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Originally Posted by techwisenyc View Post

You may want to read the following from an AVS member that was able to do a decent comparison for a Panny and Pio under the Magnolia/BB conditions which are never ideal.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post11956240

i take it your saying petmic? or cyber? i cant find the exact post you speak of , can you tell me what post # is it?

but i was wondering if any member that actually owns both that if he/she can run it side by side in vivd mode..... both HD content and SD content.
post #8213 of 17538
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

Thanks Doc. Although that's not exactly what I wanted to hear, I can't say I'm surprised. Are your switching times also longer than direct inputs from HDMI HD source to HDMI HD source?

BTW, I thought that each HDMI input, including 1080i, on the Onkyo could be set to 'pass-through'?

Well I'll look again and see if each HDMI input is passable. I have the one HDMI output set to "pass through" so every input is being passed by the receiver as is to the TV. Even set up this way if I have the cable box running through the Onkyo then to the TV there is a long lag in video switching from SD to HDTV. I can definitely switch channels with little to no delay as long as the video signal doesn't go through the receiver. The delay seems to be with the audio switching (5.1 to stereo) more than any video upconversion/de-interlacing.
post #8214 of 17538
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Originally Posted by danbysbane
Also remember that, when enabled, text optimisation cause the PIO to fail deinterlacing properly.


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Originally Posted by harneloot View Post

Then WHY is it set to ON in D-Nice recommended settings?

Curious also why/logic behind d-nice settings for the 4280/5080: 1) film mode is off on STB[S/A] and advanced on Tosh HD-DVD players. 2) Color space settings [not on setting thread page 1]- which I do not understand well.
post #8215 of 17538
It's here! My Pro 150 FD was delivered this morning. Paid $6500.00
post #8216 of 17538
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Originally Posted by kuroholic View Post

Would a programmable remote work with both IR & RF? I've heard these universal remotes are expensive and hard to set up. Does anyone own one?

a) they "can" be expensive, but like anything else, a bit of shopping can make a big difference...

b) they "can" be hard to set up, but if you are patient and are willing to work at it a bit, it's not rocket science...

c) but alas, no, it won't work with rf... universal remotes *can* send rf to a ir repeater (or blaster), but they can't control anything... you'd still need to use the kludgy workaround...
post #8217 of 17538
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Originally Posted by valoidr View Post

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Originally Posted by danbysbane
Also remember that, when enabled, text optimisation cause the PIO to fail deinterlacing properly.




Curious also why/logic behind d-nice settings for the 4280/5080: 1) film mode is off on STB[S/A] and advanced on Tosh HD-DVD players. 2) Color space settings [not on setting thread page 1]- which I do not understand well.

Owners stated that Off was better than on. So I accomedated their request. However, I've changed it back Standard...based on what my equipment tells me.
post #8218 of 17538
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Originally Posted by Dr.Lobrow View Post

Well I'll look again and see if each HDMI input is passable. I have the one HDMI output set to "pass through" so every input is being passed by the receiver as is to the TV. Even set up this way if I have the cable box running through the Onkyo then to the TV there is a long lag in video switching from SD to HDTV. I can definitely switch channels with little to no delay as long as the video signal doesn't go through the receiver. The delay seems to be with the audio switching (5.1 to stereo) more than any video upconversion/de-interlacing.


Doc, to be honest, the audio lag when source material switches from 5.1 to stereo, was the reason I crossed Onkyo off my list. I heard people claiming a 3-5 second loss of audio during this audio format switch.
post #8219 of 17538
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Originally Posted by SRTOutlaw View Post

It's here! My Pro 150 FD was delivered this morning. Paid $6500.00

Nice! Let us know what you think Outlaw...good luck.
post #8220 of 17538
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

Doc, to be honest, the audio lag when source material switches from 5.1 to stereo, was the reason I crossed Onkyo off my list. I heard people claiming a 3-5 second loss of audio during this audio format switch.

I have noticed occassional audio lag between my 150FD w/CableCARD & ANT A connection and optical out to an Onkyo receiver. I had never experienced this with the 50PX50U.
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