The Official Pioneer 8G Kuro Settings/Issues Thread - Page 358

Thanks for the link to the 5080 service manual. It will interesting to compare the 5010 and 5080.

i'll enjoy the beauty more if i knew who the subject is: 1050, 1150,5080...?

If I was you, I'd get an exchange on the DVR and replace the HDMI cable with a Cat 2 HDMI cable from www.monoprice.com (very reasonable cost) in case something going on in the DVR is damaging the interface board in the display... like over-voltage spikes or something like that. And if there's no surge suppression/power conditioning, I'd seriously consider adding that as well since some source components (the DVR perhaps) are not very elegant in their handling of line surges.

There is no reported history on the Pioneer displays (so far) of people having problems with HDMI boards - so my approach is that the failures are due to a problem in the external source component, not in the display. You can replace the HDMI board over and over and over again, but unless you solve the source problem, the HDMI board will just keep failing.

I found this pic in another thread. The OP just mentioned it was an Elite so probably either an 1150 or 110. I checked out the fan situation in my 1150's SM last night. It displays Temp 1, Temp 2, Fan 1, and Fan 2. Fan 1 displayed the message "Stopped". Fan 2 has no listing so it does appear there is only one fan in the 1150. It seems to keep track in real time as I saw the temp display fluctuate slightly on the screen.

If you have had the DVR for 4 years, it's time for an upgrade anyway. Take the DVR back to the busy cable co. offices and tell them the old DVR box doesn't work reliably with your new HDTV and you'd like a replacement with an HDMI interface. Should be no-charge.

adding my thanks for the link..it will be useful for many issues.

re fan- at least now i know which direction to shine the light towards though i don't think i'll find it either in the tight space/limited visibility

ok..thanks for the speedy response

Probably as good a time as any to inquire about Calibration discs (Avia etc.), as I'll be turning 150 hours on the new 6010 tomorrow nite. Any favorites or ones to strictly avoid? (I may get several opinions here, I'm sure).

I've done cals before, back in the "old days" when my 32" WEGA was new, using "A Video Standard". One thing I did learn over the years was to use the highest quality "source" and then not worry needlessly when the Engineers at the networks took naps late at night, and the color etc. "drifted" a bit...

I'm thinking of using the Avia, but experienced opinions welcome.

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On the subject of cooling fans, my observations during the last week or two, is that none of the three topmost fans run (room temp no higher than 82).

I did a lookup of that fan type after looking at the back of one of my top three fans on the 6010, and it looks like a nice quality fan. A Minebea 4710KL series which is a Ball Bearing fan.

.. DVE (in Blu-Ray):

http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...rade-deal.html

add: 'big river' has for 19 clams.

highly suggest you start with D nices recommended setttings on page one post six and adjust from there as you see fit.

should give you a better pic then calibration disc.

I'd recommend the new Blu-Ray DVE, too. It's much easier to navigate than the DVD or Laserdisc versions (which I also use).

D-Nice says DVE doesn't play well with his settings, although that hasn't been a problem for me with the Blu-Ray version. He may have been referring just to the SD DVD. In any case, you can always lower the color control to suit your taste when looking at actual programming, if need be.

For me, the biggest problem with a calibration disc is that it only applies to the disc player and input(s) it is used with. You still have to "eyeball" the other inputs, or just use someone else's settings.

or you can just switch the player to each input, right?

The player is the biggest limitation. The settings on your Blu-Ray player are unlikely to be correct for your other sources. Mine, for example, requires a color setting several notches higher than anything else to make the colors on the screen appear to be the same.

Yeah, I use different modes for TV watching & Blu-Ray/HD DVD. The settings themselves arent similar either. I have never beena fan of those Cal discs. It just seems that the test patterns and such dont quite jive with what you expect to see. I dunno. Then, using D-NICE settings as a baseline along with help & service menu offsets from other forum members has made my 5080 just about perfect. I just dont need a cal disc I guess.

I just purchased the Pioneer 5010 FD and I want to break it in. Am I to use the DVD Break-in as it mentioned? The DVD players I have are a Sony DVP-NS77H/S and a Playstation 3. Which one should I be using to break it then TV?

It doesn't matter. As long as the player can support the repeat function embedded in the break-IN DVD, it should work fine.

A_C

Thank you. But do I use the settings for my TV model or go with the general one that was initially first posted?

The Official Pioneer 8G Kuro Settings/Issues Thread

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Recommended (which means it's OPTIONAL!!!!) 150 Hour Break-In settings for Pioneer 4280/5080/5010FD/6010FD/Elite 950/1150/110FD/150FD (ONLY to be used with Evangelo2's Break-in DVD and a DVD player!!! DO NOT USE THESE SETTINGS WITH ANY OTHER DVD, CABLE BOX, SAT BOX, ETC!!!!!!!!!!)

Main Menu:
AV Selection: Standard
Contrast: 50
Brightness: -2
Color: +15
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0


Pro Adjust

Pure Cinema

Film Mode: Off


Picture Detail:

DRE Picture: High
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Enhancer Mode: 2
Gamma: 3


Color Detail:

Color Temp: High

CTI: Off


Noise Reduction:

DNR: Off
Field NR: Off


Power Save Mode: Off

Orbiter: On

The above settings, but ONLY for the break-in DVD. For normal watching, use the settings on the first page of this thread, specifically for the 5010.

A_C

Golly,So much info i dont know where to begin.Tomorrow i will be hooking up my new 1150hd unit.How do i want to set it up and will i need to change the settings to something else once i get a few hours on it?

Thanks i'm new to plasmas

.. hdmi (dvd/stb) into plasma, digital audio-out to AVR; settings go to page #1 to break-in settings first 150hrs w/ break-in DVD (free dll), otherwise use D-Nice 'reference' settings and enjoy.

p.s. if chosing the break-in route, you can view other programming using 'reference' settings & use 'break-in' time/settings during lawn work duties. Use break-in settings for break-in DVD Only.

Where are the reference settings.Wont be using break in dvd.with those settings would it change after i have some hours on it

.. first page post #3 (D-Nice recent update); you may need to tweak down the line but I haven't gotten there yet.

Looks like the 5080 just has the one internal fan.
Comes on at low speed at 89.6F
System shutdown if the temp reaches 143.6F..........
I guess these TVs can withstand a lot of heat.

Thanks for the info, I'll be coming off the initial 150 hours with Evangelo's DVD and D-Nices settings tomorrow evening early, and have a copy of the Reference settings ready to input. From the little bit I've watched with the "default settings"( first half of "Pitch Black") I'll probably be quite happy with the tweaking that D-Nice's settings provide. If I get the urge to tweak with a Cal. Disc, I'll get one later just to see. But the 6010 is great as is

As far as sources go, just Dish 622 receiver ( I know, "HD Lite"...), and a Sony S560 DVD player, but I'm giving thought to one of the new Pioneers in late July/Aug. Have to check the reviews when they come out...

MadCityBrad's problem is with input 2....that is NOT an HDMI input

I have a Pro-150 fd, and a quick question. Does the Kuro show "24p" or something like it on the screen when it's getting that signal? I have a new Blu-ray player, the Samsung 1500, and when I push 'display' on the Kuro remote, it only shows "Pure" and "1080p". I had a Panasonic BD30 a while ago, and I swear that my Kuro showed something like "24p" back then. Maybe I just remember incorrectly, but I'd like to know if there's something going on here. I know I have all the right settings on the Samsung, because my Denon 4308 receiver is showing 24p when I go into that menu. Could it be a handshake issue?

Thanks.

Q: Why are there 2 RGB settings for each color? What distinguishes high from low?

Here’s why I’m asking;

I’m abundantly happy with the picture on my 5010, except for a pinkish-red blush on the flesh tones. I applied the recommended settings for an approximate 6500K calibration and it just didn’t look right; too dark, with a reddish-yellow cast.

I ended up with the following:



It’s close to what I want, but doesn’t have the strikingly accurate flesh tones that the Sony XBR4 has.

Any recommendations?

A_C

That's a known quirk with the 8G Kuros. If you want to check whether it's getting the desired signal, go into your HDMI settings in the Kuro's user menu and change that input to PC. You will then be able to see 1080p24 to verify, then switch the input back, don't leave it set to PC.

I have a Pro-150 fd, and a quick question. Does the Kuro show "24p" or something like it on the screen when it's getting that signal?
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My 5080 is using the Moxi DVR. I also have a 4280 with a Motorola DCH3416 (which would be the other choice)--with an interface that I hate.

The Moxi is much more intuitive and better looking (although the picture isn't quite as good as the DCH3416)

Charter is rolling out a new Moxi model sometime in the third quarter of this year. I do not know if my market will be getting the new Moxi model, they are pretty hush hush on that stuff. But if and when a new model is released here, I'll try and get two of them.

Presently, Moxi's are pretty hard to get in this area.