The Official Pioneer 8G Kuro Settings/Issues Thread - Page 421

Thanks much. I've only seen hdmi and playstation setting but nothing so complete. Thanks for link will try out.

BTW the new Planet Earth Oct 2010 release is in 50i

I have a 5010FD and have the occasional blinking blue light & TV Guide reset. I've made myself a list of the channels to put back on the TV guide so the setup is simpler but wonder if their has been a software update to correct this?

I have the same 5010FD. It is 2.5 yrs old and I have had the 12 blinking blue lights maybe 5 times. I haven't figured what causes this. I only have an antenna for my TV with the guide turned off. I have a Xbox360,PS3 and Oppo 971 DVD player connected. The biggest pain in the A** is getting the clock to stay correct. I have to unplug for a few minutes so I can manually set the clock.

I will live with all of this because the picture is outstanding! I still am awed by the picture when watching a blu-ray or gaming. I just hope it last another 5 - 10 years.

Much health and prosperity to all in 2011

G

^^ .. sincere dittos!! & Merry Christmas also!!

heard Kuro will be 'written into' the Lunar eclipse tomorrow night. maybe Panasonic's new campaign model signature.

The TV Guide software has been a problem since day 1 of these models. The first year or so it worked great but I do not believe it was the total fault of the Pioneer but in changes the cable providers were making.

The cable companies do everything they can think of to get you to use their STBs and channel guides so you will pay them rent or impulse buy a VOD purchase.

I gave up entirely and the clock is never right (even trying to "disable" the guide software altogether) and occasionally the TV wigs out - blue lights flash - and a power off/on or a complete "reboot" resolves the issue.

The picture quality is still unsurpassed especially if you have a professional calibration performed and have yet to see any current model come close. I am starting to be skeptical if Panasonic will ever be able to adopt the technology they acquired from Pioneer to reach the level at today's price points. Eventually they should get there but in the mean time the Kuro owners get to enjoy what no one else has.....

How come on my 150FD Pro, when I play a 1080P-24bit movie, the TV displays 36bit? The BluRays players 24bit is set to on and its display will show 24bit when I fastforward etc. The movie is Apocalypto which should be in 1080P/24bit. I can switch the input to PC and it shows 1080p/24bit, go back to hdmi its 1080p/36bit.

If you enable Deep Color support on your bluray player, the player and TV will use higher than 8 bit (3 x 8 = 24bit). Pioneer does not display "24 bit" but it does display 30-bit ( 3x10) or 36-bit (3x12). You can play around with the 10-bit or 12-bit setting if your player supports it. In theory it does not matter if deep color support is enabled since the current 8-bit content is remapped to the higher bit. No real extra information, just shifting the bits to make the number higher. Deep Color content is only available from video camcorders with Deep Color support. I doubt any movie studio will ever produce Blurays with Deep Color standard.

But if you are calibrating, you might want to turn off deep color support if your other devices are only sending 8-bit. (if you don't see 36-bit except with blurays). I have seen slightly over saturated colors with deep color enabled. But some people like it. The only times I have seen people recommend enabling higher bit output is if they are sending the signal to a external video processor and worried about losing some bits during video processing.

^^+1

But I think geetarslinger is confusing 36bit color which he see on the pio, with 24Hz output he see on the player.

That about sums it up. My 5080 has done this shutoff thing 2-3 times over the course of 3 years and each time I unplugged it from the wall, waited a few minutes and then on I went. I use an antenna too...no more cable for us. The guide actually works well 95% of the time and I like that feature. Most Tvs dont have that.

Like you said - Ill just enjoy what not many people have. This set still holds its own against anything Ive seen in peoples homes recently. It usualy beats them outright, not just hold its own.

Maybe I am getting confused, I was assuming the TV would also show 1080p/24 when playing a source thats 1080/24. It does show it in PC input.

It only shows the frequency ie 24Hz for 1080p24 input if you set as PC input for HDMI. Otherwise it shows 36bit color which has nothing to do with 24Hz.

Actually the problem that causes this is Rovi changing the data for the guide. This usually ends up as a 0x800a error. If you do not do a full reset the guide the error will keep occuring over and over again.

Here is the procedure to reset the guide:
When you do the 653274147 reset, you bring up the guide, go to settings, highlight change system settings, use 111222333 code and this will clear reset info, arrow down to change channel display and arrow back up to and highlight change systems settings, and use 653274147 code. The guide should turn off in a few seconds. Wait for the blue blinking light to cycle at least two or three times then turn back on for a few minutes. This will allow the cable card to reset if used. Turn the tv off overnight so the guide can repopulate.
To get into the diagnostics menu us this procedure:
Bring up the guide, go to settings, highlight change system settings, use 753159852. Use the up and down arrows on the scroll pad to move through the different menus and the right and left arrows on the scroll pad to move through the pages of each menu. Don't worry you can't do any harm to the tv while in the diagnostics menu. To exit just hit the guide or info button on your remote.

List of nine digit TVGOS codes:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=515

There is a thread for TVGOS devices in the HDTV Technical section of this forum. Any issue you have that is guide related should be posted there.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1122914

Anyone using a Pioneer 6010 with Directv HR22-100 or other DVR?

Hi guys, I am just about at my wits end trying to figure out why my TV (6010) starts to do all kinds of weird image distortions like "fireworks" going off, when I try to pass the native 1080i or 720P signal from my Directv PVR to the TV. I am going directly from the DRV to the TV via HDMI.
Well, I tried just about every combination I could think of for trying to eliminate those "fireworks" when flipping from a 720P channel to a 1080i channel, this is obviously with Native set to "ON" & 1080i & 720P checked in the resolutions screen, so as to allow my TV (pioneer Kuro) to do all of the scaling and NOT THE DVR....... NO GOOD!!
I then tried using component cables directly from the HR22-100 to the TV, the "fireworks" where not as pronounced and the time to flip between channels was alot shorter but they were still there.
Component cables do not use any type of EDID or HTCP negotiation, as I believe it only applies to HDMI, so I am preplexed as to why this is happening. When I use my Blu ray player (BDP-51), and I change the output resolutions, I do not get any type of "fireworks" either with HDMI or component. I tested this long before.
I really don't know what to think anymore..... I thought I would just get a black screen for 1-2 sec as I flip channels with component cables but the "fireworks" are still there.

PS. I even tried going throught my AVR (Integra 7.6) using both the HDMI & component cables to see if it would make a difference. Again, no change, although using the HDMI through the AVR the "fireworks" where not as pronounced and the time to flip between channels was alot shorter than having the HDMI go from the HR22-100 directly to the TV.
BTW my AVR allows only complete pass-through of the HDMI signal, so I know its not the AVR, since my BD player is also going through the AVR.

Any thoughts from anyone.

Thanks

Hidefpaul

Anyone have service menu rgb settings for the 5080HD in User Mode with low color temperature?

^^ .. these might work; fm respected calibrator Forum member D-Nice:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...t#post17375929 (post # 12396)

Originally Posted by p59teitel .. thanks for forwarding.

Thank you, but those settings are in "Movie Mode." I'm trying to find settings in "User" mode w/ low color temp. The ones I do find in User are all using Mid color temp, not low.

.. sorry, can't find any rgb offsets for 'low' temp setting (Forum & Google searches). maybe a User will chime-in with some info.

If anyone has service menu rgb offsets for the 5080hd in User mode with low color temp I would greatly appreciate it.

What do you guys use to clean the screen itself? The 5080HD manual suggests only using a soft dry cloth (supplied) but in my case I need to use some sort of liquid as the supplied cloth isnt removing all the spots, looks almost like a spatter of liquid from a soda etc. may of hit the screen, Thanks.

^^ .. haven't tried this, as I've just used the cloth, sometimes a Swiffer. But someone mentioned over at (believe) C550 Owner's thread, that they used a 'dab' of dishwashing liquid on dampened cloth (one used for car; AZ or PBy's) for areas with spots. Follow-up w/ clean, dampened cloth & then clean, dry (soft) cloth.

add: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=798122

It's recommended here at AVS and by Pioneer to gently use a microfiber cloth (lens grade) to wipe your display's screen. If there are spots that effect picture quality, you can use a slightly damp (distiled water) micro fiber cloth. Be very gentle, because the coating on the screen can be removed if you scrub or use cleaning liquids.

There is no way to repair screens damaged by the wrong approach to cleaning.

I bought some large microfiber cloths for camera and telescope lenses here.

PhotoDon

Like the Kuros, they are coated on the outside surface.

I don't know what a C550 is, but it doesn't sound like a Pioneer Kuro, therefore the issues are not the same.

The Kuro displays have a single sheet of glass that's coated on the outside surface. That's why it's best to follow Pioneer's recommendations.

Its not really effecting picture quality but the spots are easily noticable when the display is off.

Thanks for the info and link Im sure a damp micro fiber cloth should do the trick.

I remember a while ago someone suggested using Distilled water along with a micro fiber cloth. Buy a large micro fiber cloth like htwaits suggests. The small one Pioneer give you sucks and just seems to add streaks when trying to clean. Be sure to keep the cloth slightly damp. I had to add a small amount of water a few times when cleaning my 50" Kuro. Worked great.

microfiber towels (blue) from Griot's Garage

http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/...hs+set+of+3.do

I prefer the microfiber cloths used to clean the coated lenses in cameras and telescopes to those used on cars.

I don't have any scientific evidence to backup that preference.

I was directed to those in one of the Pioneer threads (maybe this one?) in 2008 when I got mine. Just sayin'

Thanks for pointing out that the "damp" should be distilled water. I've corrected my post.

Me too (lens grade late 2007) in this or the 8G owner's threads.

Noted, I went ahead and ordered those microfiber cloths from photodon, Thanks.

The blue microfiber towels from griots garage seem nice but a bit overkill (and 3x the price).