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post #12631 of 12870
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Originally Posted by Mathesar View Post

Noted, I went ahead and ordered those microfiber cloths from photodon, Thanks.

The blue microfiber towels from griots garage seem nice but a bit overkill (and 3x the price).

I've been happy with mine.
post #12632 of 12870
they're just easy to grab, and I don't feel like I have to worry about them slipping from my hands like thin ones. Plus they're also great for other uses.
post #12633 of 12870
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Originally Posted by b_scott View Post

they're just easy to grab, and I don't feel like I have to worry about them slipping from my hands like thin ones. Plus they're also great for other uses.

The extra-large micro fiber cloth I purchased from Wally World won't slip from my hand. It might be thin but it's rather large 12"x18". I use it exclusively for cleaning my screen. Air dry it, then seal it a a ziplock till next use.
post #12634 of 12870
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Originally Posted by MegaByte View Post

The extra-large micro fiber cloth I purchased from Wally World won't slip from my hand. It might be thin but it's rather large 12"x18". I use it exclusively for cleaning my screen. Air dry it, then seal it a a ziplock till next use.

yeah, i do the same
post #12635 of 12870
I own pioneer 428xg and can not seem to find the Colour Temp settings. Is it in a hidden menu?
post #12636 of 12870
Has anyone found ps3 settings that work best with this set (4280), should I set the video output format to RBG, Y pb/Cb Pr/Cr, super white on or off? I've also read a few issues regarding 1080p/24, not sure if I have it working correctly since I am not seeing much difference (any)...

Any tips or help would be appreciated. I tried searching through this thread but it is getting tough to find an answer with so many posts, so my apologies if these questions have been asked before.

Thank you in advance.
post #12637 of 12870
Running mine rgb full , super white on. 1080p 24 to my 5080s - looks great - very detailed, no flicker.
post #12638 of 12870
I am thinking of resetting my 2 5010s back to their factory defaults because I might not be able to use the built in TV Guide much longer. Is this the proper procedure and has anybody tried it yet?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...8&postcount=58

Factory Reset Procedure

1 With tv off/in standby....press home menu.
2 Within 3 sec turn tv on , Integrated Menu will appear.
3 Hold Display button until Final Setup appears in the top menu.
4 Arrow left or right until yes appears in lower menu.
5 Hold enter until menu disappears.
6 Wait 1 min.
7 Power tv off and unplug from the wall for 5 or more min.

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Pioneer service menu (how to check for hours on your panel)

To check the hours on your plasma, go into the Service Menu

Start with the plasma turned OFF
Make sure you point the remote directly at the IR sensor in the tv

Press DISPLAY on the remote (just press, do not hold)
Wait 3 seconds
Press LEFT, UP, LEFT, RIGHT then POWER

If done correctly, the plasma turns on and the INFORMATION page is displayed

Then use the down arrow to page through to page 5
PANEL = the time the set has been on
MTB = the time the set has been plugged in

When you finish press the HOME MENU button

BE CAREFUL NOT TO CHANGE ANY SETTINGS! JUST LOOK!
post #12639 of 12870
I would be grateful for some insight. I have a 8g Kuro (508xda) and was wondering when the input is 24fps (23,976 to be precise) would the display output with a refresh rate of 24hz or 72 hz. I know the pio can do a 3:3 pulldown and refresh at 72hz however I could never get this to show in osd when in both video and pc mode (only 24hz - is this normal???). Is there any other way to figure out what refresh rate the display is outputting apart from the osd.

On another note, what would be the correct input for a htpc - video or pc via hdmi. I find in video is stuffs up the positioning of the screen which then corrects itself if the position button is pressed (under the 'options').
post #12640 of 12870
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Originally Posted by Jed1 View Post

I am thinking of resetting my 2 5010s back to their factory defaults because I might not be able to use the built in TV Guide much longer. Is this the proper procedure and has anybody tried it yet?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...8&postcount=58

Factory Reset Procedure

1 With tv off/in standby....press home menu.
2 Within 3 sec turn tv on , Integrated Menu will appear.
3 Hold Display button until Final Setup appears in the top menu.
4 Arrow left or right until yes appears in lower menu.
5 Hold enter until menu disappears.
6 Wait 1 min.
7 Power tv off and unplug from the wall for 5 or more min.

________________________________________________


Pioneer service menu (how to check for hours on your panel)

To check the hours on your plasma, go into the Service Menu

Start with the plasma turned OFF
Make sure you point the remote directly at the IR sensor in the tv

Press DISPLAY on the remote (just press, do not hold)
Wait 3 seconds
Press LEFT, UP, LEFT, RIGHT then POWER

If done correctly, the plasma turns on and the INFORMATION page is displayed

Then use the down arrow to page through to page 5
PANEL = the time the set has been on
MTB = the time the set has been plugged in

When you finish press the HOME MENU button

BE CAREFUL NOT TO CHANGE ANY SETTINGS! JUST LOOK!

Yes I did the reset and I have not had any problems with my clock not letting me set the time and I have not had a guide in some time. Small sacrifice for such a great picture! I have a 5010 model. I have checked my Hours as well and that was a bit harder getting the timing right but it all worked as you have written it. Good Luck and enjoy your 5010's

T
post #12641 of 12870
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Originally Posted by Molika View Post

I would be grateful for some insight. I have a 8g Kuro (508xda) and was wondering when the input is 24fps (23,976 to be precise) would the display output with a refresh rate of 24hz or 72 hz. I know the pio can do a 3:3 pulldown and refresh at 72hz however I could never get this to show in osd when in both video and pc mode (only 24hz - is this normal???). Is there any other way to figure out what refresh rate the display is outputting apart from the osd.

This may help:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...ostcount=15486
post #12642 of 12870
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Originally Posted by Murphycm View Post

After 2 years of happy ownership, I've got a pretty perplexing issue with my Pro-1150.

When the unit is turned on, there is no picture. The display info in the upper right corner with the Input, resolution, etc... works fine, and I can toggle between inputs. However, none of the source material or the TV menus will display. Initially, I thought the display had simply conked out. However, when I was poking around I discovered that I could get the image to display in PIP.

When I push the Split button, I just get two black screens. But, if I push the Swap button, the source material appears in the split PIP window.

I'm worried that the main "tuner" on the display is gone and only the 2nd "tuner" is operational. I've successfully displayed Dish, Blu-Ray and PC (separate input) in the Split PIP window.

I'm pretty terrified that this is a catastrophic failure of some kind, but I'm hopeful that there may be a non-hardware fix available.

I've searched the forum and attempted a Master Reset, however due to the menus not operating on the display, I couldn't even make that work.

I think this one is a pretty interesting issue, I have my fingers crossed that one of the true experts might have the solution.

Cheers,
Chris

I have the same issue on my 6010. I can get all the inputs in the PIP mode (PIP screen on the Right), but if I try to swap them, the screens are black. The LED doesn't flash either.

I can get the menu to open on the screen, but I just can't get any video to show at all.

Anyone have any ideas?
post #12643 of 12870
I am very unhappy with Pioneer, and my 8G Kuro (508XDA as it is called in Australia).

The "shadow cloud" problem (weird colour cloud visible on dark scenes/all-black screens, especially when the room is dark) STILL persists to this day - in 2011, 3 years after original purchase!!

It was in for repairs for the 2nd time, last year. Took about 9 months for them to return it, only to have the problem still exist. So they virtually did nothing.

What can I do now? I'm unhappy with all the high-end Plasmas I've bought (Kuro has cloud prob, Pana has black-level probs, Samsung was too prone to IR). I want my nice quality content, but it seems I can never find a TV that is good enough.

Needless to say, it is very frustrating!!!!!!
post #12644 of 12870
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Originally Posted by Nova Phoenix View Post
I am very unhappy with Pioneer, and my 8G Kuro (508XDA as it is called in Australia).
That's a darn shame - sounds like you really got a lemon. My three year-old 6010 still knocks the socks off of everyone who sees it and they own all of the brands you mentioned in multiple technologies. I haven't seen a 9G display since I have no need as things stand, but I couldn't be happier. Sorry for your pain.
post #12645 of 12870
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Originally Posted by quarlo View Post
That's a darn shame - sounds like you really got a lemon. My three year-old 6010 still knocks the socks off of everyone who sees it and they own all of the brands you mentioned in multiple technologies. I haven't seen a 9G display since I have no need as things stand, but I couldn't be happier. Sorry for your pain.
Thanks quarlo. I am now forced to consider a different TV tech - and that is LED. After all, if I've had this many problems with plasmas, why continue down that path??
post #12646 of 12870
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Originally Posted by quarlo View Post
That's a darn shame - sounds like you really got a lemon. My three year-old 6010 still knocks the socks off of everyone who sees it and they own all of the brands you mentioned in multiple technologies. I haven't seen a 9G display since I have no need as things stand, but I couldn't be happier. Sorry for your pain.
+1 The day my Kuro wears out will be a sad day. Nothing else approaches it to this day. I think I heard the Panasonic bought the Kuro technology so I would start there.
post #12647 of 12870
Apologies for the double posting (also posted in the 9G thread), but the same question applies to this thread: I'm moving a 50" kuro elite to the bedroom, but the limited space the TV will be placed in does not have enough room for the side speakers. Would work fine if the speakers were below rather than on the side of the TV. Are there very small, sleek speakers I could find that could plug into the same input as the side speakers, but instead place them in front of the display? Thanks in advance for any replies!
post #12648 of 12870
I posted a response in the 9G thread but forgot to mention that depending on if the Pioneer is on a stand, there might not be enough room to accomodate the speaker below the tv:

What model elite is it? I have a Pioneer PDP-6010FD and the speakers and brackets for the PRO-150FD fit it pretty well so the reverse would be true. The bottom speaker on a 6010FD would fit the 150FD and the bottom speaker for a 5010FD should fit the 110FD. I am not sure if this applies for the 6020FD/151FD and the 5020FD/111FD. The speakers can usually be found on ebay.
post #12649 of 12870
you are right! There is not enough room between the TV and the stand to fit that speaker. Oh well. Other ideas? Perhaps I could simply lay it in front of the TV, and if low enough would not obstruct the picture.
post #12650 of 12870
I wish I could have had the option for lower holes on my 5010 stand - I have no use for the speaker, but without it the chicken legs look ugly.
post #12651 of 12870
I think there are a few stands available on ebay that will accommodate the 5010FD without the speaker and not have the "chicken leg" look. I picked up a PDK-1015 for my 6010FD and it fits perfectly without the bottom speaker attached. That's the reason I bought the 150FD speakers for the side. You could probably pick up a Pioneer KRP-TS02 stand for $25 shipped and I think it will work with 5010FD. Maybe someone who has done it will chime in.
post #12652 of 12870
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Originally Posted by Pedro2 View Post

you are right! There is not enough room between the TV and the stand to fit that speaker. Oh well. Other ideas? Perhaps I could simply lay it in front of the TV, and if low enough would not obstruct the picture.

You might want to try the Sony HT-CT150. I had one for a couple of weeks and the speaker bar definitely didn't obstruct the picture or interfere with the remote.
post #12653 of 12870
My situation has just become freakier! Keep in mind that this is all theoretical at this time. Now...

It appears that two of the four HDMI ports on my 50" 8G Kuro are unaffected by the shadow-cloud problem I have previously described. When I switched from HDMI 3 (problematic) to HDMI 1/2 (clean), the shadow-cloud disappeared before my eyes, like it was being eaten pixel-by-pixel. I examined the screen up-close and found zero trace of the shadow-cloud, even after a minute or two of inactivity.

I can now confirm also, that the problem is definitely not Burn-In (else it would affect all channels/inputs).

I need help with this people. I'm happy that two of the HDMI inputs are clean, but I'm scared that they won't be if I use them. To the best of my recollections, I have never used these ports at all.

I also have no idea what the exact problem could be now - a few faulty HDMI ports maybe; a faulty circuit or some-such internally; or what??

Opinions/assistance would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT:

My findings as of tonight...
- Input 1 (Component): not affected
- Input 2 (Component): not affected
- Inputs 3-5 (HDMI): affected!
- Input 6 (PC/VGA): could not determine 100% but most likely not affected

All HDMI ports are confirmed affected by the shadow-cloud, yet all other ports seem unaffected. Opinions? Should I get another plasma, or go with my ambi-light workaround (ambient light renders the shadow-cloud invisible), or....what? Please help me out guys, I'd appreciate it very much.
post #12654 of 12870
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Originally Posted by Nova Phoenix View Post

I also have no idea what the exact problem could be now - a few faulty HDMI ports maybe; a faulty circuit or some-such internally; or what??

Opinions/assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Did you already switch the HDMI cables? Or do you also have this problem when you unplug a device connected to HDMI1 and use it in HDMI2?
post #12655 of 12870
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Originally Posted by Pfeffernuss View Post

Did you already switch the HDMI cables? Or do you also have this problem when you unplug a device connected to HDMI1 and use it in HDMI2?

Inputs 1 and 2 are Component, not HDMI. Inputs 3 to 5 are HDMI, and all 3 of them are affected by the shadow-cloud.

My last-ditch attempt at "fixing" this would be fitting an ambi-light LED strip to the back edges of the panel itself. As stated, ambient light renders the problem invisible, thus making the Kuro awesome again.

This is my last attempt, seeing as Pioneer Australia do not want to help.
post #12656 of 12870
We are happy owners of a 6010 Kuro display, but UMR (Jeff Meier) was here last night to recalibrate our audio because we had three new front speakers. They now sound great.

Jeff also discovered that our sub's amp was dead (some time since his last visit ). He offered to make a free audio adjustment visit for the sub during his next tour to California. His service is right up there with the amazing service that OPPO provides.

Our 6010 was first calibrated by Jeff at 905 hours (3/13/2008), and adjusted during another audio visit at 2,797 hours (05/20/2009). At that time, the screen's brightness needed a large adjustment but there was plenty remaining head room. For last night's visit, the display had 5,109 hours (4/25/2011) and Jeff needed to make a large adjustment for yellow. Everything else was fine. I was surprised that it didn't need more done. Unless we get hit by the "big" one, we expect that the 6010 will probably outlast it's owners.

If anyone is interested in reports about Jeff's two other calibration visits, you can find them in post number two using the link at the bottom of this post.

I highly recommend Jeff as a audio/video calibrator, and as one who gives his customers outstanding advice about both audio and video equipment.
post #12657 of 12870
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

We are happy owners of a 6010 Kuro display, but UMR (Jeff Meier) was here last night to recalibrate our audio because we had three new front speakers. They now sound great.

Jeff also discovered that our sub's amp was dead (some time since his last visit ). He offered to make a free audio adjustment visit for the sub during his next tour to California. His service is right up there with the amazing service that OPPO provides.

Our 6010 was first calibrated by Jeff at 905 hours (3/13/2008), and adjusted during another audio visit at 2,797 hours (05/20/2009). At that time, the screen's brightness needed a large adjustment but there was plenty remaining head room. For last night's visit, the display had 5,109 hours (4/25/2011) and Jeff needed to make a large adjustment for yellow. Everything else was fine. I was surprised that it didn't need more done. Unless we get hit by the "big" one, we expect that the 6010 will probably outlast it's owners.

If anyone is interested in reports about Jeff's two other calibration visits, you can find them in post number two using the link at the bottom of this post.

I highly recommend Jeff as a audio/video calibrator, and as one who gives his customers outstanding advice about both audio and video equipment.

These Kuro's seem to be well built my 8G 5080HD has over 14,000 hours of power on time and still has a superb picture.

Ive never had it ISF calibrated before I wonder if it would be worth it.
post #12658 of 12870
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Originally Posted by Mathesar View Post

Ive never had it ISF calibrated before I wonder if it would be worth it.

You're asking me?

Seriously, it's really up to you. My main interest is shinny disk movies, so I want to see them as their creators intended. If my main interest was TV, then I probably wouldn't be as interested. I just can't get into movies with either green or sunburned faces.

There is a very large number of happy owner reports about their calibrations in post number two linked below.
post #12659 of 12870
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I just can't get into movies with either green or sunburned faces.

My 6010 may not be "perfect", but it looks d@mn fine to everyone who has ever seen it - including me. There is a world of gradation between "ISF calibrated" and "clown show" especially when one takes the time get it as right as possible even without the benefit of professional tools.
post #12660 of 12870
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Originally Posted by quarlo View Post

My 6010 may not be "perfect", but it looks d@mn fine to everyone who has ever seen it - including me. There is a world of gradation between "ISF calibrated" and "clown show" especially when one takes the time get it as right as possible even without the benefit of professional tools.

If you're happy, I'm happy.
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