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post #12811 of 12870
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Originally Posted by 9179mhb View Post

I also have a PRO-150FD and would be reluctant to give up the display unless absolutely necessary. Only if my insurance company was willing to cut a check to cover the purchase of a 60ZT60 or a 60F8500AF would I be inclined to replace the display.

Why those? I was thinking a Sony 4K would be more in-line with a replacement!
post #12812 of 12870
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I also have a PRO-150FD and would be reluctant to give up the display unless absolutely necessary. Only if my insurance company was willing to cut a check to cover the purchase of a 60ZT60 or a 60F8500AF would I be inclined to replace the display.

Why those? I was thinking a Sony 4K would be more in-line with a replacement!
Are you looking at dollars or picture quality?
post #12813 of 12870
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Are you looking at dollars or picture quality?

I actually just looked at it in person and I thought the picture quality was very nice. It actually blew all of the other sets in viewing area away in my opinion.
post #12814 of 12870
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Are you looking at dollars or picture quality?

I actually just looked at it in person and I thought the picture quality was very nice. It actually blew all of the other sets in viewing area away in my opinion.
OK. But the Sony is going to be nothing like a calibrated Kuro.
post #12815 of 12870
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Why those? I was thinking a Sony 4K would be more in-line with a replacement!
Since you own a PRO-150FD I assumed you would want to replace it with another 60" PDP that is regarded to be equivalent, perhaps superior, to an 8th gen KURO.

If your viewing habits are like most people (e.g. you sit 10' or more away from your display) I'm not sure how much extra detail a 4K TV can really provide.

Given the content being offered it seems anything beyond 1080p is more of a gimmick, a selling point, to compel individuals to buy something they really can't appreciate.

My plan is to sit tight with the PRO-150FD for the foreseeable future until OLED becomes a mainstream display and is hopefully more affordable.

Currently every HDTV on the market seems to be just more of the same to me.
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I can't help but wonder if 4K is just some sort of gimmicky stop gap.

Just as soon as 4K becomes "mainstream" how long until the talk of 8K starts up.

Now there would be no messing with that resolution from distance and worrying if we are sitting close enough or the screen is big enough.

Within reason of course but even still
post #12817 of 12870
Need advice:

My set won't turn on anymore - sometime in the past hour I just noticed the standby light is not lit, thought somehow it got unplugged, but that is not the issue. Won't turn on at all.

I believe my model is the 5010FD, but not exactly sure - got it in 2007 or 2008.


Should I even bother trying to repair the TV? I absolutely LOVE this TV but not sure if TV repair on plasmas is advised - looking to you guys for advice.

And who do I go through? Should I contact Best Buy even though it fell out of warranty years ago to get someone? Just go through yellow pages?
post #12818 of 12870
Is there a power switch for transportation on bottom of tv? I had that tuned of on mine and standby light went off.
post #12819 of 12870
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Originally Posted by shadestreet View Post

Need advice:

My set won't turn on anymore - sometime in the past hour I just noticed the standby light is not lit, thought somehow it got unplugged, but that is not the issue. Won't turn on at all.

I believe my model is the 5010FD, but not exactly sure - got it in 2007 or 2008.


Should I even bother trying to repair the TV? I absolutely LOVE this TV but not sure if TV repair on plasmas is advised - looking to you guys for advice.

And who do I go through? Should I contact Best Buy even though it fell out of warranty years ago to get someone? Just go through yellow pages?
Try unplugging from the wall for a couple of hours, then plug it back in. Also don't forget to try the actual power button on the end of the set in the bottom left corner as you face it.

If you don't get lucky then check with Pioneer for an authorized repair center. It's going to be expensive so you might want to investigate the best current alternatives. Panasonic and Samsung have some very good plasmas this year.
post #12820 of 12870
Thanks - Pressing the transportation button "almost" fixed the issue - once I pressed it, the red standby light came on, and I powered it up.

However, after standing on the "powering up HDTV" message for a few seconds, the TV turns off and now the blue light blinks 12 times and is unresponsive to power on.

It occasionally turns back on itself, giving the same message, but within a few seconds turns back off and the lights continue to blink 12 times. Now I am trying some things on the remote (I have a short amount of time when TV attempts to power on I can maninuplate the commands through remote on the screen before it shuts off).

Any advice? I am digging through archive on this thread as I see this has happened to others.
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^^^^Another one bites the dust...the timing of these failures is starting to feel like more than just coincidence!  I'm afraid if it's not the TV guide tuner issue that's causing the 12 blinking blue lights then you'll likely need a new main board (AWV2457).  I actually picked one up for under $100 but haven't had time to undertake the repair.  In hindsight, I should've just started removing screws from the back panel a few at a time each night...probably could've saved a larger chunk of time when I finally do get to it! :rolleyes:

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Now blinks 8 times... guess it is time to get a Panasonic? Ugg.... should probably wait until Black Friday
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New info on my dying/dead TV.

Apparently my dad hit the lower left power button to turn off the TV last night without me being aware. I didn't even know that button existed until coming to this thread. Last night to fix I tried unplugging the TV but obviously that didn't fix since I hadn't yet pushed that button back on.

This morning after getting the responses I pressed the lower-left button which put the TV to red standby light, after powering on real way I get the "TV is powering on message" which hangs for about 10-30 seconds before screen going black and back to the 12 blinking blue lights (sometimes 8). I can use the remote a little bit - like options menu during that 30 second window, but not changing inputs or much else (honestly I am not sure of what features the remote controls - usually just have the TV controlled by harmony).

With that added info, that someone powered off the TV while it was on with the lower-left button, does that seem like something that could hurt the main board (which I see listed for a hefty 800+ bucks on Pioneer site), or is there perhaps something I could try to fix it?

I am really not pleased looking at other TVs... I see far fewer inputs on the top recommended TVs like the Panasonic ST60 series lacks VGA and has fewer component/HDMi so really want to save this TV besides the money issue.
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Originally Posted by shadestreet View Post

New info on my dying/dead TV.

Apparently my dad hit the lower left power button to turn off the TV last night without me being aware. I didn't even know that button existed until coming to this thread. Last night to fix I tried unplugging the TV but obviously that didn't fix since I hadn't yet pushed that button back on.

This morning after getting the responses I pressed the lower-left button which put the TV to red standby light, after powering on real way I get the "TV is powering on message" which hangs for about 10-30 seconds before screen going black and back to the 12 blinking blue lights (sometimes 8). I can use the remote a little bit - like options menu during that 30 second window, but not changing inputs or much else (honestly I am not sure of what features the remote controls - usually just have the TV controlled by harmony).

With that added info, that someone powered off the TV while it was on with the lower-left button, does that seem like something that could hurt the main board (which I see listed for a hefty 800+ bucks on Pioneer site), or is there perhaps something I could try to fix it?

I am really not pleased looking at other TVs... I see far fewer inputs on the top recommended TVs like the Panasonic ST60 series lacks VGA and has fewer component/HDMi so really want to save this TV besides the money issue.

 

Hate to say it but you were probably better off with the 12 blinking lights error.  8 blinking lights could be up to 4 different issues (each a separate board in the tv):

 

 

The digital assembly is the board common to the 12 blinking lights issue (AWV2457).  From all of my research on this issue, it seems power surges/failures are a contributing factor to the main board failing.  At least 4 different people (not including your issue) have reported some type of power issue when their Kuro quit working.  Like I said, keep an eye out for the main board to come in stock somewhere besides Pioneer (+$800...:rolleyes:).  I signed up for e-mail notification on several sites (don't bother with Shopjimmy as they told me they'll never get them again) and picked one up for under $100.

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The 8 lights was only once or twice before, back to 12 flashes
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What are some sites to sign up for notifications on that AWV2457 board? And is it easy to replace? Like plug-and-play or would I need to get a professional to replace? Thanks for all your feedback.
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If you've ever built a PC then it's a no-brainer to DIY.  The biggest pain is getting the back panel off the tv...talk about OVERKILL.  Just make sure you seal it back up before powering on (or find a way to override the safety switch).  I've heard some had to have their boards reset as a result of trying to fire up the tv without the back panel in place.

 

Just google AWV2457 and you'll get a bunch of hits.  I would keep my eye on E-bay.  I believe HDTV Parts Store was the one that e-mailed me back.  I haven't gotten any other notifications either...

post #12828 of 12870
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Originally Posted by shadestreet View Post

Thanks - Pressing the transportation button "almost" fixed the issue - once I pressed it, the red standby light came on, and I powered it up.

However, after standing on the "powering up HDTV" message for a few seconds, the TV turns off and now the blue light blinks 12 times and is unresponsive to power on.

It occasionally turns back on itself, giving the same message, but within a few seconds turns back off and the lights continue to blink 12 times. Now I am trying some things on the remote (I have a short amount of time when TV attempts to power on I can maninuplate the commands through remote on the screen before it shuts off).

Any advice? I am digging through archive on this thread as I see this has happened to others.
Our 6010 flashed 12 blue lights and our extended warranty replaced the main board. A new board from Pioneer was around $700. The labor brought the cost over $1,000.

If you can handle a variety of board/cable fasteners, and keep track of all the screws involved, it wouldn't be too bad to do it yourself. Just be careful about static electricity.

I don't know what the second hand main board market is like.

Edit: the 12 blue lights was preceded by 8 blue lights.
post #12829 of 12870
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Our 6010 flashed 12 blue lights and our extended warranty replaced the main board. A new board from Pioneer was around $700. The labor brought the cost over $1,000.

If you can handle a variety of board/cable fasteners, and keep track of all the screws involved, it wouldn't be too bad to do it yourself. Just be careful about static electricity.

I don't know what the second hand main board market is like.

Edit: the 12 blue lights was preceded by 8 blue lights.

How is your display getting on since you had the repair done htwaits ?...

All well i hope.
post #12830 of 12870
hi all
first post here, ...been reading quite a bit .

my pdp-6010fd, worked flawlessly since i got it in 08
till recent times, this year.
first TV Guide is no longer supplying a signal for these sets, as everyone knows.
and i have disabled it

my issue is with the tuner,
Although i have Dish Net, i still use the OTA ( the antenna ) for locals.
the issue , i've lost a good number of channels.
in NYC area, cannot receive nothing below abc's 7.1 and nothing above chn 25.

i've done a good deal of resets, channel setups, looked at the service menu,
not having a service guide available, i refrained from making any changes there,
and not knowing wether any changes there would somehow reset the tuner.

and not sure the tuner is shot !

which leads to my question.
can the tuner be reset, through the service menu, or are there other remote commands ?!!

thanks
Edited by rizx - 11/17/13 at 8:44am
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Have you asked Pioneer if there are any updates for the tuner available, over the air or otherwise ?
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spoke to pioneer awhile back,, and no they did not .
I'm just trying to figure out if the tuner could be reset.
pioneer was not helpful at all.
all they said it was a digital tuner communication issue.
post #12833 of 12870
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How is your display getting on since you had the repair done htwaits ?...

All well i hope.
It's been fine.
post #12834 of 12870
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Originally Posted by shadestreet View Post

What are some sites to sign up for notifications on that AWV2457 board? And is it easy to replace? Like plug-and-play or would I need to get a professional to replace? Thanks for all your feedback.

I have the exact same scenario as yourself. My 6010fd went off after a power outage. 8 blue blinking lights then 12 after a reset. Looking all over the place for the AWV2457 board other than the Pioneer parts store. They are definitely hard to come by.
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Well, I created alerts for the main board on Ebay but not hopeful.

I called a local certified repair technician - he said he would estimate the repair would come in at $1000 due to the high price of the board which he believes at this point Pioneer builds on demand and keeps the price that high to deter people from asking for it.

I am really torn on spending $1000 on repairing it or buying a new TV, I decided today after a lot of research to get a Panasonic VT60 from Amazon for $1500, it has far fewer inputs (losing an HDMI, VGA at very least) but guess I have no choice. Feel like it would be foolish to spend 1000 but I have 30 days to return the Panasonic.

Is there anything I can do with my broken Pioneer other than curbside pickup? I guess I will wait a few months to see if a board pops up on eBay, but hate to throw it out if it doesn't.
post #12836 of 12870
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Originally Posted by shadestreet View Post

Well, I created alerts for the main board on Ebay but not hopeful.

I called a local certified repair technician - he said he would estimate the repair would come in at $1000 due to the high price of the board which he believes at this point Pioneer builds on demand and keeps the price that high to deter people from asking for it.

I am really torn on spending $1000 on repairing it or buying a new TV, I decided today after a lot of research to get a Panasonic VT60 from Amazon for $1500, it has far fewer inputs (losing an HDMI, VGA at very least) but guess I have no choice. Feel like it would be foolish to spend 1000 but I have 30 days to return the Panasonic.

Is there anything I can do with my broken Pioneer other than curbside pickup? I guess I will wait a few months to see if a board pops up on eBay, but hate to throw it out if it doesn't.
I just wanted to let you know that your service guy's numbers match the 6010 repair (main board) I had done. Our extended warranty paid for it though.

One fewer HDMI ports wouldn't mean much to me. I go through an AVR and have never used the other three ports on the 6010. wink.gif
post #12837 of 12870
Has anyone profiled the i1D3 for 8G Kuro?
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I just found this site and I have a few questions about my kuro. I bought my 150FD back in 07 and I remember thinking I would break it in before I calibrated it. Well here it is, almost 2014 and its still using "optimal". We very rarely watch anything except for hd from directv. We don't even have a surround setup yet.

I don't have the money for expert calibration so I was just wondering if the reference settings on the first page are the ones I should use. I figure it would be better than "optimal" haha.

Also, is there a way to see how many hours it has been powered on? Any known issues that I should be aware of? I'd rather sell it than have to repair it.

I was thinking about selling it since it is almost 7 years old. Hard to believe it's still one of the best.

Also, is it necessary to take the back off and clean out the dust? We have our windows/doors open a lot and the pc's get real dusty in a year. I assume the tv is too...

Thanks for the help guys.
post #12839 of 12870
You don't use the "PURE" display setting? IMO this is one of the main advantages gained by owning an "Elite" branded display.

Instructions to enter service menu:

Pioneer service menu (how to check for hours on your panel)

To check the hours on your plasma, go into the Service Menu

Start with the plasma turned OFF
Make sure you point the remote directly at the IR sensor in the tv

Press DISPLAY on the remote (just press, do not hold)
Wait 3 seconds
Press LEFT, UP, LEFT, RIGHT then POWER

If done correctly, the plasma turns on and the INFORMATION page is displayed

Then use the down arrow to page through to page 5
PANEL = the time the set has been on
MTB = the time the set has been plugged in

When you finish press the HOME MENU button
post #12840 of 12870
Wow appreciate the help. Did not even know it had that info. I'll try it tonight and post back.

So with the pure setting, I don't need to change anything else?

Edit: Not able to access the service menu. Tried it about 10 times. Maybe I can try kuro reader or controlcal.
Edited by Justinf89 - 12/29/13 at 10:24pm
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