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post #31 of 12870
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

I'll have some initial settings this weekend. Until then, turn the contrast down to 33...orbiter on....and power save mode to save2.

Have you seen any IR?
post #32 of 12870
Thread Starter 
Unless you have calibration equipment, there are only a few patterns you will ever use on DVE. Here is a great guide:

http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/V...ation.html#dve
post #33 of 12870
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Originally Posted by Zues View Post

Have you seen any IR?

I don't have one yet. However, I;ve been assured by my contact that if you use the orbiter, you will never have to worry about IR.
post #34 of 12870
Thanks. That looks like it'll be very helpful.
Is there a red, green, blue gains on the set? I recall having heard rumours of a mystical "service menu." DVE hinted at one as well but seemed to imply that if I touched it my TV would explode.
post #35 of 12870
If anybody has used these TV's (particularly the 5080) with an HTPC, please share your experiences. ie, 1:1 pixel mapping through HDMI/VGA, etc.
post #36 of 12870
Have not seen any IR in the 5 days I've had the set, and I haven't been super careful. Have the orbiter on and make sure that the sidebars are gray but that's about it.
post #37 of 12870
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Originally Posted by [omen] View Post

If you do think it's a good idea to go with an ISF tech, should i go through the break-in procedure before I schedule the calibration? Or is that not necessary?

I would say that you should go through the break in period before having a plasma ISFed or doing a thorough calibration yourself. The reason is that the phosphours age and the settings may be slightly different after break in.

As for whether or not the break in is nevessary, I think someone posted somewhere that a Pio Engineer suggested 150 hours. When I broke in my plasma I would use the break-in dvd over night and when I wasn't around and would watch whatever I wanted the other times. This got me through the first 150 hours quicker so I could watch whatever I wanted. I would zoom 4:3 content and avoid sports/shows with high contrast static overlays for the first 150 hours as well. After a proper break in, I have never had burn in playing video games and watching movies with black bars.

-Evangelo2
post #38 of 12870
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Originally Posted by bak_phy View Post

Thanks. That looks like it'll be very helpful.
Is there a red, green, blue gains on the set? I recall having heard rumours of a mystical "service menu." DVE hinted at one as well but seemed to imply that if I touched it my TV would explode.

RGB cuts and gains are located in thr SM. They are in the user menu on the Elites.
post #39 of 12870
Is there any guide to using the SM safely?
post #40 of 12870
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Originally Posted by Evangelo2 View Post

I would say that you should go through the break in period before having a plasma ISFed or doing a thorough calibration yourself. The reason is that the phosphours age and the settings may be slightly different after break in.

As for whether or not the break in is nevessary, I think someone posted somewhere that a Pio Engineer suggested 150 hours. When I broke in my plasma I would use the break-in dvd over night and when I wasn't around and would watch whatever I wanted the other times. This got me through the first 150 hours quicker so I could watch whatever I wanted. I would zoom 4:3 content and avoid sports/shows with high contrast static overlays for the first 150 hours as well. After a proper break in, I have never had burn in playing video games and watching movies with black bars.

-Evangelo2

Thanks, Evangelo.

Yeah, I'm going to shoot to do 200 hours to be on the safe side. One question, is there any reason not to leave the TV on 24 hrs a day during break-in? To plow through the 200 hours I was thinking I'd just pick my source and leave that puppy on 'til I hit the 200 mark. Or should I give the thing a break every once in a while to cool off, etc?
post #41 of 12870
How do you get to the service menu? Is it possible to really mess up the TV? Is there a reset button in case things really get out of hand.
Given that the panel and filters are the same on the pure and elites and that the service menu contains many of the things which are in the elites user menu what could possibly justify the extra $ for an elite?
post #42 of 12870
Thread Starter 
Do not go into the SM if you do not know what you are doing. You can and will render your plasma a brick by hitting the wrong button.
post #43 of 12870
But it's sooooooo tempting
post #44 of 12870
I'd only go into the service menu if I knew exactly what settings I was changing.

I have a Samsung 27" CRT and it can do HD, but 1080i has to be enabled in the service menu. Luckily, because it was a cheap HDTV, it had a cult status, so service menu options were readily available online, with some explanations, too. That's the only condition I'd really be willing to enter the service menu for.
post #45 of 12870
fair enough. So... Can't wait to see what people who actually know what they are doing have to say. Honestly I doubt that there is really much that needs to be done to calibrate the set.
post #46 of 12870
What does sharpness due when its a negative setting? On the old CRTs turning it all the way down would make for a more "pure" signal, but now... Who knows? Does it ADD blurness beyond whats in the original signal?
post #47 of 12870
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Originally Posted by bak_phy View Post

fair enough. So... Can't wait to see what people who actually know what they are doing have to say. Honestly I doubt that there is really much that needs to be done to calibrate the set.

Are you saying the 5080 is not worth being professionally calibrated?
post #48 of 12870
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Originally Posted by Vashti View Post

Nope, as much as I like plasma tv's, I like her more. And I get her point. She's a yoga teacher, teaches sometimes in our living room. I'm not sure a giant tv makes a room feel yogic.


Just tell her how she could also use it to play all those yoga DVD's during a class, that amazon has for sale...
post #49 of 12870
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Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules View Post

Are you saying the 5080 is not worth being professionally calibrated?

I think you're reading too much into the comment. He probably meant something like "the picture looks so good already, I don't know how it could possibly look better." ie: hyperbole
post #50 of 12870
Just returning to my old unanswered question.If you detach the bottom speaker can you adjust the display down so no space is left where speaker would be.If not I would love to see what 5080 looks like without the speaker.Cant imagine it would look too practical.
post #51 of 12870
Just saying that using the color filters from DVE showed that the colors were very close to were they where supposed to be. Perhaps there could be some improvement but I doubt that I would be able to tell the difference.
post #52 of 12870
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Originally Posted by mattg3 View Post

Just returning to my old unanswered question.If you detach the bottom speaker can you adjust the display down so no space is left where speaker would be.If not I would love to see what 5080 looks like without the speaker.Cant imagine it would look too practical.

I'm using an external sound system but I put the speakers on anyways as it looked a little funny without them. I didn't check to see if there was a way to remove the gap. Might have been the smart thing to do.
post #53 of 12870
What is this orbitor in the new Pioneers? What exactly is it doing?
post #54 of 12870
Shifts the image around a bit (very slowly) such that a logo or such doesn't burn the same pixels.
post #55 of 12870
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mattg3 View Post

Just returning to my old unanswered question.If you detach the bottom speaker can you adjust the display down so no space is left where speaker would be.If not I would love to see what 5080 looks like without the speaker.Cant imagine it would look too practical.

You are suppose to be able to lower the sand if you are not using the speaker.
post #56 of 12870
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Originally Posted by [omen] View Post

Thanks, Evangelo.

Yeah, I'm going to shoot to do 200 hours to be on the safe side. One question, is there any reason not to leave the TV on 24 hrs a day during break-in? To plow through the 200 hours I was thinking I'd just pick my source and leave that puppy on 'til I hit the 200 mark. Or should I give the thing a break every once in a while to cool off, etc?

I gave mine a break a few hours a day. Just to let some heat dissipate. For a source when you are not around you may want to try the break in dvd. It works well and a lot of people here have used it for break-in. There are some things in the break in dvd thread that you should check for before you go ahead with it (mostly checks to make sure your DVD Player is compatible with the break in dvd).
-Evangelo2
post #57 of 12870
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Originally Posted by Evangelo2 View Post

I gave mine a break a few hours a day. Just to let some heat dissipate. For a source when you are not around you may want to try the break in dvd. It works well and a lot of people here have used it for break-in. There are some things in the break in dvd thread that you should check for before you go ahead with it (mostly checks to make sure your DVD Player is compatible with the break in dvd).
-Evangelo2

Cool. I'll be sure to give it a rest every now and then. And yeah, I already have the DVD-R version of the Break In DVD downloaded and ready to burn. Great thread, btw.
post #58 of 12870
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Originally Posted by bak_phy View Post

How do you get to the service menu? Is it possible to really mess up the TV? Is there a reset button in case things really get out of hand.
Given that the panel and filters are the same on the pure and elites and that the service menu contains many of the things which are in the elites user menu what could possibly justify the extra $ for an elite?

The SM for the non-Elites does not have all of the adjustments that the Elites have.


Pioneer service menu (how to check for hours on your panel)

To check the hours on your plasma, go into the Service Menu

Start with the plasma turned OFF
Make sure you point the remote directly at the IR sensor in the tv

Press DISPLAY on the remote (just press, do not hold)
Wait 3 seconds
Press LEFT, UP, LEFT, RIGHT then POWER

If done correctly, the plasma turns on and the INFORMATION page is displayed

Then use the down arrow to page through to page 5
PANEL = the time the set has been on
MTB = the time the set has been plugged in

When you finish press the HOME MENU button

BE CAREFUL NOT TO CHANGE ANY SETTINGS! JUST LOOK!
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Factory Reset Procedure

1 With tv off/in standby....press home menu.
2 Within 3 sec turn tv on , Integrated Menu will appear.
3 Hold Display button until Final Setup appears in the top menu.
4 Arrow left or right until yes appears in lower menu.
5 Hold enter until menu disappears.
6 Wait 1 min.
7 Power tv off and unplug from the wall for 5 or more min.
post #59 of 12870
Hello all.New member here.First of all, a big HOOOOORAY to a gentleman called D_NICE and all other members for "educating" me about the new pioneer plasma tv.Second,i am now stationed in Iraq and soon will be home for a couple of months before my next deployment.i plan to purchase the new pdp-5080hd and i will be using only the tv's speaker.i noticed that pioneer stated the tv has surround sound (???) i always thought that in order to have surround sound effect,one must use multiple speakers,and D-nice,do you think the tv's speaker will be adequate for a small bed room?thank you all again,and hope you will not be mad or bored with my "elementary" question.Be safe and God bless America.regards. Lt. Ngo. US Army.
post #60 of 12870
Thanks kr8z1,
Does the factory setting reset, reset the service menu as well? Does this include the time counters?
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