Originally Posted by lipcrkr
Finally was able to compare my first choice....Sammy 5271 LCD and a Pioneer 5010. The Sammy was on top and the Pioneer on the bottom. Looks like the only way i'll be able to give the Pioneer a fair chance is to look at it in a home enviroment, not sure if i want to do this. The Pioneer had a great picture but it was dull, like the Panny 1080p's. I was not blown away by the Pioneer but i do realize that it probably looks dull next to a bunch of LCD's which are brighter. The "white" looked..dare i say it.."dirty. I know plasmas are generally dimmer but even in the darker theater room there was a 6010 and it still looked too dim. Not sure if i can be blown away at home if i wasn't blown away in a home theater room. I just can't get past those damn "whites".
I believe you're accurate in your assessment in terms of the whites being dimer
when it's a full screen white. However, they are no more dim than a CRT (in
fact, they're brighter). For stuff that has < 70% white content (ie: not a
full screen), it's pretty bright and vibrant. In fact, ultra-widescreen Blu-ray
material with full screen looks bright white, almost as bright as my old LCD.
It depends on settings, though. Unlike an LCD, the settings make a huge
difference on these panels. I was a bit flustered figuring things out at first,
but now I'm doing fine. If you're not happy with what you see in the store
when it comes to whites, I don't think you'll be any happier at home. Blacks
and colour material look far better (and more saturated) at home, especially
at night. However, the whites in a dimly-lit store should be good enough
indication. If you're not satisfied with it, then I think you'd better stick to LCD.
Just make sure the store wasn't running in Powersave2 mode and check the
settings like colour temp, colourspace (1 is more vibrant), DRE settings, etc.
Oh yeah, you might want to try out some of D-Nice's settings on page 1 of this
thread. One thing I must mention is that, at least on my TV, the whites look
reminiscent to LCD WHITE (ie: bluish tinge) when I set the colour temp to high.
That might help.
I forgot something: store feeds look like crap on Pios for some reason. If
you want to see what it can do, ask them to hook up a blu-ray or hd/dvd
to the screen.
I understand your pain about finding the perfect set, but there seems to be
a little trade-off here and there. I got used to the whites pretty fast, but
I was shell-shocked at first because I was used to being blinded. Now the
whites look white again. Dunno if that helps, but now the TV is awesome to me.