The Official Pioneer 8G Kuro Settings/Issues Thread - Page 210

Originally Posted by Ken Ross

I haven't noticed that at all actually. I'd be very sensitive to a 'too blue' dark range, so it's probably nothing more than a set to set variation. Also, very important to note, remember that blue will be very hot on a brand new set. My settings were for an 'aged' set with several hundred hours on it, so I could see where they might be too blue under some conditions with a new set.

Originally Posted by jfz

I see a wide variation in skin tones with my 110 - very wide. It has made me much more cognizant that there is actually a very wide variation in skin tones
in real life as well. I suggest that you watch a lot more programming before you conclude that either of the settings you've tried are "off". As Ken said, I think giving the set more time will may result in more accuracy as well. Finally, there is panel to panel variation - so the settings they have supplied may not be exactly right for your set. What I do is start with something that is recommended, and then make small incremental adjustments. I document the changes - and what I think of them - as well. That way I can go back to check earlier settings. I'm a tweaker. You may decide that you want to settle on something earlier than I have. Good luck!

Originally Posted by HDTVinJoisey

I noticed this on my FD150 as well. Thought it might be the settings, but then I watched the Packer/Giant game on CBS and presumably the same orange objects (side line markers, etc) looked fine. Maybe something to do with the broadcast/camera used by the different networks (CBS vs Fox?). I use HDMI from my moto cable box.

Originally Posted by gbr1ryder

The game on CBS was broadcasted at 1080i and Fox at 720p. I have always noticed the fox games have a more crisp picture. I have also heard that sports usually look better at a 720p resolution than any other. I didn't even adjust the cable box to reflect the 720p resolution i just left it at 1080i and looked freakin awesome. btw, I have the 5010 just to give you an idea.

Originally Posted by jeld

i was not in hdmi mode. it changed everything. hockey and basketball now look totally incredible. i am now a 5010fd believer!! halellujah!!!

Originally Posted by ccotenj

generally speaking, the pq on cbs (1080i) is superior for sports to anything else... espn/espn2(720p) varies, but at it's best can be close to cbs... fox(720p) varies GREATLY, but again, at it's best (which is rare) can be close to cbs... nbc(1080i) is generally bad (although improved considerably towards the end of football season)... if you spend a bit of time haunting the hdtv programming threads, you'll find this to be true...

something to keep in mind... your provider plays a BIG factor in what you see on your set... again generally speaking, fios is the best, followed by cable/d* mpeg4, then d* mpeg2, then dish (leaving aside ota)... also, your local affiliate can also affect your picture quality...

there's a lot that happens inbetween the production truck and your tv set...

fwiw, if you don't adjust your cable box to pass through native resolution, you are letting the cable box scale instead of your set.

Originally Posted by gbr1ryder

Ah, good to know, ccotenj.

Thanks for the clarification as well. That's interesting that if I don't adjust the box to reflect the resolution of the program, then the box does the scaling. I actually did adjust it on the box to 720p (I DVR'ed it and watched it later) and I think the picture looked worse. I don't know - sometimes all of this give me a headache

Originally Posted by clau

Pure Cinema Settings

I asked the question in the owners thread, but I want to hear some opinions here, too.

If I am feeding 24Hz material into the Kuro, what are the differences between the 4 Pure Cinema modes (off/standard/smooth/advance)? Do I really get a 3:3 pulldown in "Advance"? Does anyone notice any less judder in Advance?

If I am feeding 1080p60 material, what do the modes do? Is there any Pioneer documentation on this?

Sorry if this has been covered, but I fail to find any definitive post on this. The manual is useless.

Originally Posted by htwaits

I'm in favor of doing what's most convenient and looks best over all. If you setup the cable box to output all signals unchanged, then your TV will have to do a handshake each time you go to a channel with a different signal resolution. That will cause a delay that irritates some people.

Originally Posted by htwaits

If you can edit your post to include information about who did your calibration, I would like to include it in the owner's report list for flat panel displays that is linked at the bottom of my post.

Originally Posted by cpcat

1080p60 won't be processed at all.

Personally, I don't notice any specific improvement with advanced mode or smooth mode so I just leave it at standard. Additionally, advanced mode seems to visibly decrease the contrast on my 4280 which is a little strange.

Originally Posted by eddiscus

To finish the night off I found a discovery special on the Blue Angles air show. I have seen this before on my other displays but this is the first time I saw it on the Pro150. Let me just insert a WOW . Nothing short of spectacular.

I have seen these aircraft up close and personal, they are a good test for this blue issue (very deep royal blue). I was let down, blue stayed blue. There were times I thought I was starting to see a shift toward purple but it was just the level of lighting.

There was a moment when I was going to press pause to switch to CS1 settings but I noticed a person in the background with a purple ball cap on (vikings purple). Having that as a reference right on top of the plane itself showed the plane was still Royal blue.

Originally Posted by htwaits

If your cable box is configured to output everything at 1080i then all 720p sources like Fox, ABC, and ESPN will have to go through extra conversions. First the box will convert (scale and interlace) the 720p signal to 1080i. That introduces errors. Then the TV will de-interlace the 1080i signal to 1080p. If you don't have a 1080p set the signal will need to be scaled a second time.

If your STB feeds the TV the original 720p signal then a 1080p set will just scale the input to 1080p. That should mean fewer errors.

I'm in favor of doing what's most convenient and looks best over all. If you setup the cable box to output all signals unchanged, then your TV will have to do a handshake each time you go to a channel with a different signal resolution. That will cause a delay that irritates some people.

Originally Posted by gbr1ryder

I think you mentioned that you have a 5010 (maybe 6010)

have you noticed that when the HD program you're watching goes to commercial and the screen formats for the commerical, do you:
1) get gray vertical bars on the side of the screen

once the HD program resumes do the gray bars still appear on the screen for a couple seconds?

I never saw the bars once the program resumed.

Originally Posted by clau

So if you are feeding the set 1080p60, there is no difference between the 4 modes?

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Originally Posted by dssturbo1

just use the suggested reference settings and avoid the black barts and programs with icons/logos for the first 150-200 hours.

the reference settings are just what D-Nice suggest are the optimal settings for the models and in a controlled setting where you do not have ambient light issues, and as mentioned in the note you can increase the contrast as you see fit for the situation. Or you can tweak them as you see fit so that it gives you the best PQ in your own viewing setting.

Originally Posted by en0x

yes u can use av selection mode dot by dot

Originally Posted by gbr1ryder

Hey jeld!

Just had a question for you...What do you mean by you weren't in "HDMI mode"? I have a 5010 as well and am confused. I'm using HDMI through a cable box, but don't understand what you're saying. I just want to make sure that I'm not missing anything here! Thanks!

G

Originally Posted by htwaits

I'm in favor of doing what's most convenient and looks best over all. If you setup the cable box to output all signals unchanged, then your TV will have to do a handshake each time you go to a channel with a different signal resolution. That will cause a delay that irritates some people.

Originally Posted by D-Nice

Anyone want some Superbowl settings?

Originally Posted by D-Nice

Anyone want some Superbowl settings?

have you noticed that when the HD program you're watching goes to commercial and the screen formats for the commerical, do you:
1) get gray vertical bars on the side of the screen AND

2) once the HD program resumes do the gray bars still appear on the screen for a couple seconds?