The Official Pioneer 8G Kuro Settings/Issues Thread - Page 267

Quoting this as I believe it bares reference to your discussion.

You guys are crazy I don't know how you can have a 6010FD and not be satisfied with the picture, maybe I just got an exceptional tv, but I can't imagine anything looker better than my tv.

With Blu-ray disc playback from a PS3 to my PRO-150FD the display reports 1080p 36bit. Does this mean it is receiving a "deep color" signal?

I think not...as far as I know, only a few HD video cams provide deep colour.

I asked this awhile back in one of the Kuro threads and never got a reply. My 4280's input screen comes on very briefly when watching DVD's or BD's, with pre-movie stuff like the FBI Warnings, etc. Basically anything that isn't 16x9 enhanced and the TV has to resize, if I'm correct. I'm using HDMI on Input 6.

Is this normal?

M

D-Nice - your 6010 color / tint settings do reduce the saturation so HDTV looks fine,
but when I check the color / tint using AVIA its far off according to the color bar patterns.

In order to adjust for the test pattern,
color needs to be set from your -13 to +2 or so,
but that results in a very bad over saturated image, reds just bloom.

Why ?

DNice is actually using a colorimeter on the display which is more accurate than a DVD calibration tool. Also, his settings for 'reference' vs. 'daylight' are different. Ultimately, the settings are subjective. Use the one you're most comfortable with. Enjoy!

So my question to everyone here is, if you have applied dnices settings to a 5010FD, is there really any benefit to having a isf calibrator come in and tweak even more. AFter all Dnice was using simular equipment correct??

Gamma is at 2, Mode is MOVIE, Black Level OFF.

I am running Nuances Movie settings except I added a few clicks to Contrast and upped Brightness to +4.

Needing settings advice. I have a 5080 and it looks beautiful except for tthe blacks and darker colors in shadows or on dark parts of peoples faces. What is the best thing to change brightness or contrast for this type of porblem? I have been playing around with these 2 settings but cannot get it to look right unless they are set very high which makes the whole picture bright and it hurts my eyes at that point. And I am using the reference settings fron DNice.

Also is it normal to experience what I would call "ants"? Basically when something is bright on the screen no matter the source the bright colors seem to have distortion, very small dots that flash in and out. Not very noticeable but very annoying to me.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=984439

No two panels are the same. ISF calibration made a remarkable difference on my 110FD (actually ISFccc) compared to D-nices very watchable settings.

Dnices 6010 color settings things look fine ,
but I'm interested why AVIA and other test discs I have all indicate
color needs to be set much higher ,
yet when set higher images look very oversaturated.

Dnice seemed to be aware of this as he indicated the -13 color is eyeballed for correctness in saturation as opposed to being a objective measurment.

It suggests to me a maybe the gamut is too wide on the 6010,
or reds are overdriven, and a SM gain adjustment would help?

Not sure but would be interested in DNices comments ?

Well like before, no one is commenting on this. I take it's normal? (From Post #8000, above)

M

I guess I live for blacks. My gamma is set to 1 and brightness to 0. I put the gamma up to 2 for some TV shows.

The input screen showing all the input channels or the one at the top right corner showing which input you are in? If its the one in the right corner its normal.

Ah a reply to this. Anyway, yes, it's the one in the upper right hand corner. I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned this. It's kind of annoying that it can't be turned off. It never showed up at all in my former 4270, unless I changed inputs.

Thanks,

M

RGB I think looks better on full, instead of limited, and I use Auto and Superwhite on, on 5010FD, that seems to look the best.

You can read owner's reports about professional calibration using the link at the bottom of my post.

Well I could no longer take having a dead pixel so the tv is returned. But now before you jump to conclusions I actually picked up another 4280HD. I liked the tv enough to drive 3 hours to the only store that had any left. I couldn't believe a BB in upstate New York had two of these just sitting there. And btw this one is dated July 2007, my last one was dated Oct 2007, so both sat for some time.

Both tv's buzz, it must be a Pioneer thing.

I think it's a hit and miss thing with any Plasma.

http://www.audioholics.com/news/indu...sma-tv-is-dead

interesting, what does this mean for the new models shown at CES for 2009, and if pioneer is still going to make them, but buy the panels form panasonic, will they still retain their competitive advantage?

personally, i don't think LCD a candle to the Kuro yet, and it will be years before OLED takes off.

Maybe it's time to invest in panasonic

The Matsushita (Panasonic) Corporation is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, electronics giant in the land of the rising sun. It's no wonder other manufacturers would purchase and use their parts.

So with Blu-ray disc playback @ 1080p24 what does the "36bit" designation from the PRO-150FDs display information menu reflect?

All, I have a few questions so please bare with me. I recently picked up a pio 1150 and have the following questions

1. Has anybody used the AVIA Calibration DVD? How did it do? How easy was it to use? And has anybody compared what they can do with the DVD vs a pro calibrator?

2. Need advise on cables? I am currently using the Free HDMI cable that was given to me from FIOS. What makes a cable better then another? How much is just marketing hype?

3. Any advise on Bluray players that would go well with the TV? Not looking to spend top dollar if not necessary.

Plasma TV is Dead - Pioneer Exits

This is disheartening news. I'm glad I bought a PRO-150FD & not some future pseudo-Panasonic/Pioneer hybrid.

anyone has trouble using Sony remote RM-AX4000 with 5080HD? i have to program the power button few times to work properly.

Potential available if the input provides 36 bit? Most likely, or perhaps confusion?

Yes. Very easy to use and okay results. No comparison with a professional ISF calibration.

2. With HDMI's digital signal, expensive cables will make very little if any difference.

3. Can't say, don't have one.

Yesterday spent some 5 hours with the very engaging (and loquacious!) Michael Chen (aka Michael TLV) as he beat my Pro-150D into submission via THX/ISF calibration...

He was pleasant and professional, and extremely patient with me and my silly questions. For those interested in Calibration and the process it's like getting a lesson from the ground up. As he says (in a truly Zen way) it's about the process, rather than simply the result... Oh, but the result was good too...

He left my Pro setting alone (it was a majorly tweaked version based on one of the settings from AVS used as a guidepost, I believe one modified from D-Nice) and set Movie (apparently the more accurate Gamma mode for this set) and User (for cablebox watching, a more saturated palate). Close A/B'ing of my previous setting was at first hard to distinguish, but upon further inspection I noted a red pallor to the mode I had set using DVE-HD that I thought I had repaired. The calibrated version has far more "grey" greys (I used the multicoloured and textured tarmac of Cars to do a/b, along with B+W films like Casablanca and Good Night/Good luck on HD-DVD), without bouncing into the blues in an unnatural way.

The set already looked bloody amazing with my own settings, but the calibration certainly was an improvement. I'd recommend him to anyone, particularly those that are interested in the nuts and bolts of consumer-level calibration, how each setting affects one another, etc. For those that have tweaked lots with their DVE/Avia they'll still find playing with the big toys (Sencore et. al.) to be an amusing experience...

Thanks again to Michael, and when I get my email from him I'll forward the before/after results...