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post #211 of 578
8/8/07 at 12:32pm
PaulGo,

I mentioned 3,000 hours as that is what I've read as an industry average bulb life for DLP's. I am definitely not saying the 3,000 hours is specific to Samsung.

I think a major issue affecting bulb life is the electricity going out while watching TV and not allowing the bulb to go thru the fan assisted cool-down cycle. That is why I have a UPS on on my LED DLP.

Thanks,

Ken
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post #212 of 578
8/8/07 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

No it's not just you. The bulbed ones ARE brighter. I don't know if it's dramatic. Depends on the material, I guess.

But being a little darker isn't such a bad thing really. I think the LEDs are still plenty bright. (Keep in mind too the bulb will dim over time, and the bulbed DLPs you see in store probably have contrast cranked to the max.) To me the LEDs seem to have better colors, though that just in-store impression so I don't know if it's accurate.

Longer life, slimmer cabinet, and no rainbow to worry about. If they made LEDs at this size, I'd be very interested.

cymmgarcia


I agree with barth2k. The 67" in my opinion is definitely brighter and my wife and I "think" we noticed an improved viewing angle. I really don't mind paying $200 for a bulb every 3 years (approx) if I get the picture I now have. The one downside I had on the 67" was having only 2 HDMI ports (not sure why Samsung didn't put in three like their LED models). This however turned out to be a very minor issue since currently I only need two (cable box and DVD player), and should the day come when I need a third or fourth, there are HDMI splitters available for $50 or less.

With that said, I think you still got one heck of a TV. Until I saw the 67", I was looking at buying the 61" LED model. No bulb replacement and no color wheel make that a real bargain. I think the viewing angle is only an issue if you have a crowd over and people are trying to watch from the side (i.e. Superbowl party).
As far as the brightness, I have toned mine down some as I suspect others have. I like the picture much better and it is supposed to add a few hours additional life on the bulb, though that is not why I did it. I have only seen the 50", 56" and 61" LED models in the stores. Like the 67" I have, I bet your LED TV looks even better in your home. Reviews I have read by others on the Samsung LED models indicate customers are overwhelmingly happy with their sets. I hope the rest of us 6756W owners will feel that way in the next few months. This TV as well as the LEDs are relatively new and only time will tell. If I were you, I wouldn't second guess myself and just kick back and enjoy the HD experience. Last night I saw Bonds break the home run record in High Def. Setting aside the whole steroid issue, it was pretty incredible viewing it on my TV. Can't wait for the football season! On this set, I would even watch a Detroit Lions and Arizona Cardinals game, which shows you how much I love this TV (hope there are no Lions or Cardinals fans reading this)!
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post #213 of 578
8/8/07 at 12:39pm
I found that this set leans forward on thick carpet with this stand. I placed a set of four silicone (rubber-like) feet from a pc case at the supporting area between the front of the tv and the stand. They are about 1/4" to 5/16" thick and leveled the tv to a true vertical position. You could do the leveling at the front of the base of the stand as an alternative. This takes away the feeling the the tv might fall forward and positions the proper viewing angle higher.

I still have a lot of SSE even after lowering the brightness / contrast settings. Has anyone set this box up with a calibration disc with good success? I have adjusted the neighbors R60XBR2 with good success. But, I'm not close to the same PQ with this set yet. I think this tv has a lot of potential if I can just get it balanced out. It runs way too bright / SSE so far.

Also, I'm seeing little variation /correction from the sharpness controls. The three factory settings are all over the place (25 to 75). Any input here?

Let's hear what your calibrations look like. TIA
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post #214 of 578
8/8/07 at 2:08pm
I tried this set with the Sony Playstation3 1080p and with it set to 24fps for BluRay movies. The Samsung does support a 24FPS 1080p signal from the PS3 and the picture quality is fantastic!
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post #215 of 578
8/8/07 at 2:23pm
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Originally Posted by heycurt View Post

I still have a lot of SSE even after lowering the brightness / contrast settings. Has anyone set this box up with a calibration disc with good success? I have adjusted the neighbors R60XBR2 with good success. But, I'm not close to the same PQ with this set yet. I think this tv has a lot of potential if I can just get it balanced out. It runs way too bright / SSE so far.

Also, I'm seeing little variation /correction from the sharpness controls. The three factory settings are all over the place (25 to 75). Any input here?

Let's hear what your calibrations look like. TIA

I too am anxious to hear what others are doing for calibration. This set is a light cannon out of the box, even on the movie setting. Using the movie setting, I've dialed back the contrast to 30, dialed down the gamma to -2, and still have a picture that is bright enough during the day and a bit too bright at night with the room lights dimmed. I'm also using warm2, with the hue dialed up slightly. All I've used for calibration so far is the THX screens on DVD and HDNet's calibration screen for my DVR (all inputs are component) ... will wait until the weekend to pop in my DVD Essentials disk.

One thing about the screen being almost too bright ... it makes me feel good that I have room to dial it up when the bulb ages.

The sharpness doesn't seem to have much effect on my screen as well ... I have it at 30 but will tweak further.

The biggest downside is that I also have some inward vertical bowing ... ) ( ... that is noticeable on 4:3 material. It isn't that bad however, and is unnoticeable with most 16:9 content, the only exception being my windows desktop on my HTPC. No horizontal bowing, which is great as this would be much more of an issue with sports tickers and the like.

Because the set is so bright, there is some SSE, most noticeable with 4:3 SD and other bad sources. Again with HD, the SSE isn't much of a problem.

Overall, I'm thrilled with the set. The colors look spot on, flesh tones are great, black levels are fantastic. And the size really brings home the theater experience at our viewing distance of 10 feet. At this price, I don't believe there's a better value available.

Let's hear from you calibrators out there!
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post #216 of 578
8/8/07 at 3:38pm
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Originally Posted by PaulGo View Post

I tried this set with the Sony Playstation3 1080p and with it set to 24fps for BluRay movies. The Samsung does support a 24FPS 1080p signal from the PS3 and the picture quality is fantastic!

That is HUGE! I wonder why its not published in the specs?

Man, if this thing had one more HDMI port and I would be buying it on my way home from work. This might be too tempting to pass up.
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post #217 of 578
8/8/07 at 5:18pm
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Originally Posted by PhantomOG View Post

That is HUGE! I wonder why its not published in the specs?

Man, if this thing had one more HDMI port and I would be buying it on my way home from work. This might be too tempting to pass up.

Same thing, here. I have already taken the Mitsu-65733 for some dark smudges, but overall the picture was good and the 3 hdmi-capability was pretty nice. Costco has this for $2099 and I just got an American Express card last week..

Hmmm.
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post #218 of 578
8/8/07 at 5:34pm
bidhightakeall,

As a tech junkie I'm always second guessing myself. Heck, I'm crazy enough to buy the Costco one and set them up side by side for my final decision. My wife has put up with me for 15 years so she's either a saint or I'm not that crazy.

I've got 4 days to decide so I'll keep you posted!

Thanks,

cymmgarcia
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post #219 of 578
8/8/07 at 5:36pm
Out of curiosity - is the bulb for this TV 130W's like I read above?
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post #220 of 578
8/8/07 at 6:15pm
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Originally Posted by PhantomOG View Post

That is HUGE! I wonder why its not published in the specs?

Man, if this thing had one more HDMI port and I would be buying it on my way home from work. This might be too tempting to pass up.


PhantomOG,

You can get a HDMI switch for $50 -$100 that acts like a splitter. They even come with remotes. You can go online and find them. I have seen several listed on eba (oops, no names) I too had wanted at least three HDMI ports for future needs and was worried until I realized I could get extra ports via the switch. It should not be a big deal to move between applications, since you are typically using one at a time. I would dedicate one of the ports on my TV to the incoming cable connection, attach the switch to the other TV port and have my DVD player and other game units or peripherals attached to the switch. I have seen some advertised for $65 that give you 5 ports, have an equalizer built in, and come with a remote control.

Go get your TV while the price is right!!!!!
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post #221 of 578
8/8/07 at 6:26pm
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Originally Posted by insly View Post

Out of curiosity - is the bulb for this TV 130W's like I read above?


That's a good question. If anyone out there knows the bulb number I would like to know. Eventually when I see the picture begin to deteriorate, I want to order a replacement. The manual does not give the bulb part number or rating. It may be listed on the bulb replacement door but I really don't want to take my TV off the stand to look up this info if I don't have to. I have noticed that most of the Samsung DLPs use a Philips bulb that generally run around $200. I hope that is the case for this TV, versus the $300-$350 I have seen for others.
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post #222 of 578
8/8/07 at 6:33pm
First, let me say that you guys are all a**holes. Truly, I mean it.

I used to visit this forum when I was researching my first HDTV, back about 5+ years ago. I ended up with a Pioneer 64" CRT Home series(like the Elite only without the fancy cabinet). Aside from the well documented convergence IC failure, it has been flawless and I have been very happy with.

Bored last week watching the Red Sox lose, I surfed over here. And found this thread about the retailer with the $400 coupon....and the rest is history. Did the AMEX deal to get the 3rd year warrantly, plus I'm already an "executive member" so I will get an additional 2% bacl at end of year. Total damage was $2277; this included Vermont tax, some cheese, chips, dishwasher soap, and some hamburg buns. Not bad for a 67" DLP.

The funny thing is I was kinda on the fence about this as I really wanted the "shiny black" cabinetry instead of the dull black my Pioneer currently had, but I said what the hell, for the price I can live with another dull black. When I got to the retailer, I found out the dull black one I had seen was in fact not the correct one. The correct one for the coupon was actually the shiny black after all!!!

Got home today with it a couple hours ago. After putting the stand together, I thru the TV up on it and stepped back. Damn, this thing is big. Amazing how much bigger the 67" is compared to my old tiny 64incher.

After my eyes recovered from the near blindness set on by the torch mode defaults, I went thru a quick calibration with my Avia disk. Here's what I ended up with, for now:
Mode set at "movie"
contrast 43
brightness 47
sharpness 15
color 56 then turned down to 51 to compensate for red push using blue filter
tint 51
color tone "normal"

don't know what the following do yet, so for now they are set as follows:
black adjust "off"
dynamic contrast "medium"
gamma and white balance set to "0"
edge enhancement "on"

Anyone care to educate me on the above? please?

Overall impressions is WOW this thing is bright. It's dark now, and we'll see how is looks tomorrow in daylight, but I'm guessing I turn the brightness down a bit. We'll see. Much "crisper" picture than the Pioneer, certainly HD picture is vastly superior. SD is a little better.
Running component cables now, as my Yamaha receiver won't do HDMI. This is next, along with a blu-ray. Can I run a blue-ray to the TV via HDMI and keep my reciever? Or do I have to run HDMI into the receiver to get sound thru my Yamaha?
The only negative is that the center channel speaker is too tall to fit in the stand. Right now it's sitting on floor in front of the stand. Anyone got any cool ideas on this? Maybe put a shelf on the wall just above the TV to set the center channel?

Thanks much for all the help, and thanks for helping me deplete my bank account for something I really did not need

Oh yeah as far as bowing, I have none that I can see. Avia disk has a "grid" pattern, and all lines appear straight to me. I hate to look too hard.....

Kevin
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post #223 of 578
8/8/07 at 6:49pm
Part Number: BP96-01472A
Division: TV
Description: ASSY LAMP P
Stock Availability: In-Stock
Price $149.99
From Samsung Parts - it is a 132w bulb

http://www.samsungparts.com/part_det...model=HLT6756W
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post #224 of 578
8/8/07 at 6:52pm
Nice... at $150 / lamp, and considering the amazing price we got, and assuming 3 years per bulb, this thing will still be cheaper than the LED based sets even after 20 years of bulb replacements.

Regarding HDMI switches:
http://www.video-storm.com/proddetail.asp?prod=TMDS61

I have a component switch from Video Storm, and it's great. The zero-key remote capability works flawlessly (basically it learns your remote, so you don't have to use a separate remote).
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post #225 of 578
8/8/07 at 7:00pm
Someone post some pics of this tv running the ps3.
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post #226 of 578
8/8/07 at 7:34pm
Tried calibrating mine with Avia tonight and noticed some of the same nuances:

-Sharpness adjustment has very little effect
-In a dark room the set is very, very bright
-Avia's brightness test pattern did not work when output from my Xbox 360. That is, I could never see the two moving vertical lines no matter how high the brightness. This is very strange, since I had just used it to calibrate my HTPC and used the test pattern successfully. Xbox 360 is using VGA and HTPC is using DVI/HDMI. Any ideas?
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post #227 of 578
8/9/07 at 5:43am
I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question, but I am about to buy my first projection TV. What exactly is bowing? Just curious of how much of a distraction/issue it is. Thanks.

- Bill
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post #228 of 578
8/9/07 at 5:52am
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Originally Posted by big_screen_bill View Post

I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question, but I am about to buy my first projection TV. What exactly is bowing? Just curious of how much of a distraction/issue it is. Thanks.

- Bill

Bill,
Look at post #96 on 4th page of this thead. On the first attached picture, you can see on the 4:3 picture the sides are bowed in slightly like this )(
Since most folks will watch a widescreen HD feed or stretch a 4:3 feed, it's not a big deal.
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post #229 of 578
8/9/07 at 6:57am
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Originally Posted by Fragster View Post

This thread is pretty useless without pics ...


Fragster,

This is my "feeble" attempt to post pictures for you. Please consider I am not much at photography, I was using my point and shoot digital at low resolution setting. I hope these pictures don't turn anyone off from buying this TV! The three pictures are Faneuil Hall in Boston, family room setup, and Blue Angels.

Remember, don't blame the TV!!!
LL
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post #230 of 578
8/9/07 at 7:24am
I have my center speaker on a designed shelf for LCD/DLP sets. It was made to hold the center channel speaker on the top center of the set. Best Buy sells them. It looks good and is almost invisible once the speaker is on it.

Oh and before I forget...... GO YANKEES!!!

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Originally Posted by yellolab View Post

First, let me say that you guys are all a**holes. Truly, I mean it.

I used to visit this forum when I was researching my first HDTV, back about 5+ years ago. I ended up with a Pioneer 64" CRT Home series(like the Elite only without the fancy cabinet). Aside from the well documented convergence IC failure, it has been flawless and I have been very happy with.

Bored last week watching the Red Sox lose, I surfed over here. And found this thread about the retailer with the $400 coupon....and the rest is history. Did the AMEX deal to get the 3rd year warrantly, plus I'm already an "executive member" so I will get an additional 2% bacl at end of year. Total damage was $2277; this included Vermont tax, some cheese, chips, dishwasher soap, and some hamburg buns. Not bad for a 67" DLP.

The funny thing is I was kinda on the fence about this as I really wanted the "shiny black" cabinetry instead of the dull black my Pioneer currently had, but I said what the hell, for the price I can live with another dull black. When I got to the retailer, I found out the dull black one I had seen was in fact not the correct one. The correct one for the coupon was actually the shiny black after all!!!

Got home today with it a couple hours ago. After putting the stand together, I thru the TV up on it and stepped back. Damn, this thing is big. Amazing how much bigger the 67" is compared to my old tiny 64incher.

After my eyes recovered from the near blindness set on by the torch mode defaults, I went thru a quick calibration with my Avia disk. Here's what I ended up with, for now:
Mode set at "movie"
contrast 43
brightness 47
sharpness 15
color 56 then turned down to 51 to compensate for red push using blue filter
tint 51
color tone "normal"

don't know what the following do yet, so for now they are set as follows:
black adjust "off"
dynamic contrast "medium"
gamma and white balance set to "0"
edge enhancement "on"

Anyone care to educate me on the above? please?

Overall impressions is WOW this thing is bright. It's dark now, and we'll see how is looks tomorrow in daylight, but I'm guessing I turn the brightness down a bit. We'll see. Much "crisper" picture than the Pioneer, certainly HD picture is vastly superior. SD is a little better.
Running component cables now, as my Yamaha receiver won't do HDMI. This is next, along with a blu-ray. Can I run a blue-ray to the TV via HDMI and keep my reciever? Or do I have to run HDMI into the receiver to get sound thru my Yamaha?
The only negative is that the center channel speaker is too tall to fit in the stand. Right now it's sitting on floor in front of the stand. Anyone got any cool ideas on this? Maybe put a shelf on the wall just above the TV to set the center channel?

Thanks much for all the help, and thanks for helping me deplete my bank account for something I really did not need

Oh yeah as far as bowing, I have none that I can see. Avia disk has a "grid" pattern, and all lines appear straight to me. I hate to look too hard.....

Kevin
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post #231 of 578
8/9/07 at 7:39am
Anyone else using an Xbox 360 via VGA with this TV? Have any recommended settings? I tried using Avia, but the I can't see the moving black bars on the needle pulse test pattern, so it's difficult to set brightness. Also rented the disc, and don't have a blue filter, so can't set the color accurately.

Tried eyeballing it, but things came out too dark. Current settings are pretty close to 50 across the board, except sharpness, which is around 40.
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post #232 of 578
8/9/07 at 7:51am
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Originally Posted by IhateBestBuy View Post

Someone post some pics of this tv running the ps3.

I will tonight.

And if you want an extra HDMI port just get the Onkyo TX-SR605 as your switcher
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post #233 of 578
8/9/07 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by bidhightakeall View Post

Fragster,

This is my "feeble" attempt to post pictures for you. Please consider I am not much at photography, I was using my point and shoot digital at low resolution setting. I hope these pictures don't turn anyone off from buying this TV! The three pictures are Faneuil Hall in Boston, family room setup, and Blue Angels.

Remember, don't blame the TV!!!


Here are some more pictures!

Denali Park
Madagascar (movie)
Mick

Please note that some of the pictures show bowing. It is not the TV. It was the angle and distortion from my camera. Again, these pictures don't give the TV is just deserves. My wife likes all the animation movies, especially ones done by Disney. In the past, I never watched them. Seeing them in 1080i has changed my viewing habits. We now watch them together. I will eventually be getting Blu Ray and wonder how they will look in 1080p. I currently have a Sony DVD "up-converting" player, but plan to move up to Blu Ray.

If any of you out there are using a Blu Ray, please let us know how much better of a picture it is when compared to 1080i. I am waiting a few months before I buy a Blu Ray player. We use the Blockbuster online program (similar to Netflix) and they will start shipping the Blu Ray discs in January. At that time, I see us watching high def TV (1080i) or the Blu Ray (1080p) discs almost exclusively. I have not seen a 1080p picture yet and was soliciting any feedback from you guys (or ladies)!

Thanks
LL
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post #234 of 578
8/9/07 at 9:34am
Thanks for the feedback on my "dirty screen" problem. I returned the TV to the store and exchanged it for another. My wife was skeptical to get another, thinking that this second set came from the same lot build and may be prone to the same issue. Sure enough, the second TV has several dark spots on the image under the screen surface. The largest is viewable from several feet. I'm pretty disgusted right now. The largest spot on both screens was in the same location. Don't know if that's a coincidence.

I'm going to contact the manufacturer and see what they have to say. It's a real hassle to lug these large TV's back and forth.

JB
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post #235 of 578
8/9/07 at 10:32am
PaulGo,

Any idea what the replacement LED for the HL-T56xxS goes for? I tend to keep things for 10 years so if the LED part fails once, but is priced outrageously, than I'll switch sets to the Costco HL-T67xxW.

By the way, the only other reason I'm srtuggling with the decision is that it I got the LED set for $1606 at Ciruit City, so the upgrade to a brighter and bigger pic will cost me $500.

Thanks,

Ken (cymmgarcia)
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post #236 of 578
8/9/07 at 10:58am
Confused on HDMI and HDMI 1.3

I know the HLT-6756W has two HDMI, but they cannot handle HDMI 1.3. I want to get the Play Station 3 which is able to transfer at HDMI 1.3. Should I then get the HLT 6189S which is able to receive 1.3 HDMI, but the set cost $800 more than the one from Costco. Is it worth spending that much for HDMI 1.3? Or should I stick to this 67 from Costco. I know that HDMI 1.3 has better picture quality and is able to correct the lip syn issue that we face. Is the industry going for HDMI 1.3 in the next couple of years?
Any response will be helpful.

James
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post #237 of 578
8/9/07 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by cax11 View Post

Confused on HDMI and HDMI 1.3

I know the HLT-6756W has two HDMI, but they cannot handle HDMI 1.3. I want to get the Play Station 3 which is able to transfer at HDMI 1.3. Should I then get the HLT 6189S which is able to receive 1.3 HDMI, but the set cost $800 more than the one from Costco. Is it worth spending that much for HDMI 1.3? Or should I stick to this 67 from Costco. I know that HDMI 1.3 has better picture quality and is able to correct the lip syn issue that we face. Is the industry going for HDMI 1.3 in the next couple of years?
Any response will be helpful.

James

James

I'm pretty sure people would tell u the same as me....in the end, its your dough and if u really feel u can justify another $800 for HDMI 1.3, go for it.

For me, I aint that rich yet

Frag
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post #238 of 578
8/9/07 at 1:49pm
FWIW - - The unmentionable store located in Spokane Valley, WA, is honoring the can't talk about it coupon on both the HL-T6756 and the HL-S6767.
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post #239 of 578
8/9/07 at 3:04pm
I just picked up the 67 yesterday hoping to get a perfect set with zero issues. I've been playing around with the settings and eyeballing the screen for any flaws. I don't mind the minor bowing issues, but unfortunately, like Jbanks, I've got a set that has a smudge like spot near the top center of the screen, about 2 inches below the frame. You have to look for it and it is really only noticeable with white or light colored backgrounds. This bothers me somewhat, but not yet to convince me to return it for another set.

Is this normal for DLP sets? Does anyone else notice any similar effects? Is it a common issue due to the way they attach the screen to the frame, or dirt beneath the screen? If anybody has a perfect set with no smudges or dirt issues, please post your results.

I also did a thorough calibration uisng DVE HD-DVD on my Tosh A1 @1080i output. I could not get perfectly accurate colors, but this was the best compromise I could come up with.

Movie settings
Contrast - 0 (this is such a bright screen)
Brightness - 52
Sharpness - 0
Color - 54
Tint - 52-48
Color Temp - Warm2

Detailed Settings
Black adjust - Med
Color settings
Red - 0
Blue - 30
all other colors - 15
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post #240 of 578
8/9/07 at 3:13pm
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Originally Posted by PaulGo View Post

I tried this set with the Sony Playstation3 1080p and with it set to 24fps for BluRay movies. The Samsung does support a 24FPS 1080p signal from the PS3 and the picture quality is fantastic!

this is huge news. that is a great feature only on newer high end sets and noone was sure if this TV could do it or not. awesome to have it verfified it does in fact do 24fps.

I have the hlt6187 led model and am replacing my hls6767 with this hlt6756 which isn't a huge upgrade over the hls but the 24fps adds one more little thing to make it worthwhile and a slight upgrade.

i guess the hlt6756 doesn't do hdmi 1.3 though? that would be the icing on the cake.

despite having the 61" led and the previous year 67" i'm still excited to get this tv with the 2 shelf stand and a ps3 which I will mostly use for playing backing avchd hidef footage from our vid cam and upcoming new baby.

someone mentioned the stand and tv leaning forward a little on carpet and I had the same thing with the hls6767. I put some white foam pads that came in the packaging of the box under the front 2 feet of the stand and they fit perfectly virtually invisible and liftred the front of the stand just enough to make it level.

Basically I have found that you just can't go wrong with the Samsung dlps, whether led or lamp. yes some ppl have had some problems like with any set that there are millions of owners of there are bound to be a few lemons.

but its one of the only sets that does 1080p over component and I know the VGA connection is always one of the best. it has great upconverting to 1080p of most material making so you dont even really need an upconvert dvd players. Its one of the if not thee brightest tvs and just all around very good especially for the price.

at first I wanted some variety in tv brand and display tech, but I end up being happy witih 2 Samsung dlps (one led , one lamp) as they just look the best to my eye.

can't go wrong with any last year hls or this year hlt samsung dlp tv.
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