Samsung HL-T67xxW info **NO PRICE TALK OR WHERE TO BUY!! - Page 11

on a positive note,I watched the chargers game on nbc high deff and there were VERY little motion artifacts,must have been the nfl channel source

Im gonna try the paper fix and see if that helps my off axis problem

hopefully it was the signal since all channels dont broadcast the same.. some are lower quality

After another calibration attempt, these results are the best I can come up with using My Toshiba HD-A1 @1080i with the DVE HD disc. All new owners are welcome to try this. You may prefer this if you don't like the default torch mode. Oh, I've finally reached my 100th post.

Mode- Movie
Contrast- 0
Brightness- 51
Sharpness- 0
Color- 50
Tint- G52/R48
Color Tone- Warm 2
Detailed Settings
Black Adjust- Off
Dynamic Contrast- Off
Gamma- 0
White Balance- 0
Red - 0
Blue - 30
Edge Enhancement- Off
Color Gamut- Normal
Setup
Color Weakness - Blue +9

Should there be digital audio coming from both the optical and coax audio outputs as a result of the HDMI audio going into the TV from the STB and DVD sources??? Thanks in advance.

emphasis is mine...

so are you putting the tv on the shelf or on the whole stand? the shelf might only hold 100 lbs but i think the stand could hold more. if i am confused with your post, please help enlighten me.

I'm interested in this question as well...because I have the TV hooked up to my stereo receiver using a digital optical cable, and I'm not getting audio to the receiver when using a HDMI input to the TV. I have the cable feed going into a combo DVD/VCR player (don't have a high def cable box yet), and I have a coax cable, component video, stereo audio cable, and HDMI cable connections from the DVD/VCR player to the TV. I also have xbox 360 and Nintendo gamecube inputs to the TV. I get audio to the TV on all inputs, and audio to the receiver on all inputs except HDMI.

iam32bme and JBanks29

The only digital signal the optical cable will pass is from the internal tuners.

AJ

The stand definitely holds the whole TV. The glass is tempered and could probably hold 100 pounds of components (and a 45 pound olympic weight). Definitely strong enough though. this TV is awesome

Although, I see some of what I can only describe as sparkle in the area I am looking directly at. The tuner/interface is great, but I wish it had PIP.

All last week I was intending to take some photos to illustrate the pincushion effect (which doesn't bother me at all, and had to be pointed out to my wife). I was gonna hold a tape measure against the side of a 4x3 program. But I never got around to it, and now that the sale is over, is anyone interesting in seeing this? Maybe to compare to your own set, or still contemplating buying (which is still a good deal)?

Also to be clear (even though jeffbarnett513 summed it up pretty well in post #284). The pincushion or bowing effect is always there. However, without a point of reference (like side bars on a 4x3 source) it is not enough to notice (for me anyway). So that's why people keep saying it only affects 4x3 material.

i returned my hls6767 which i got for $2500 plus tax, to get his tv for $2100 plus tax.

i mostly did it to save $400 (plus the tax diff between $2500 & 2100) ad for he 2 shelf stand. the fact that it is about 2" slimmer & has a smaller lighter cabinet in general (plus gloss black instead of matte) is nice as well as the couple minor features over last years version in the hls6767.

besieds the fact that i could have waited longer to return my hls6767 (grandfahered in on old policy) & got even more tv (though i cant fit much bigger then 67") for less in 6 mo. to a year the timing was right (baby coming any week now) and as worried about losing my orig receipt or rhem not honoring the old policy if i waited too long.

my only concerns are that in some ways it seems to be worse then the hls6767. the 4:3 or smaller picture bows greatly at the bottom. i didt have any of this with the hls67. i know ppl have mentioned the bowing and have said its only on 4:3 which most dont watch lot or can wide zoom it.

but that brings me to my other point. the tv when on just scan or 16:9 even goes into a 4:3 picture or smallr somtimes. when you have small square with blck bars above & below as well as on he sides... well it sucks & ive never had that with any tv. ok well i think my hlt6187 does it too but wow what is with this? its really sucky of the hlt's to do this.

4:3 is bad enough but a smal squre in center o screen urrounded by blck on all sides & bowed to boot is very troubling.

i think is mostly when using "just scan" mode & on commrcials. i mean maybe they really are brodcasting in hat small of res but it sucks bad & sometimes there is also a white static line cross the top of the screen above the blck bars.

so imagine a small square picture surrounded by blck bars on all 4 sides (not just left & right) bowed greatl at he bottom & sparkle at the top.....not good.

im starting to wonder if the hls6767 isnt better in some ways then the hlt6756?
the colos which are usually great with samsung right out of the box also seem to be a little off ever so slightly compared to the hls67 which i never had to adjust or calibrate & just used the preset modes.

i guess its still worth gettin $400 back & getting new lighter slight slimmr vresion with 2 shelf stand & some added features but there re some conerns with this set & i think the hltms in general.

cant samsung do what philips does & put some fw updaes online for ppl to dl to a usb flash drive & insert in their samsung to fix some problems/add features etc. like philips does. the samungs have the usb port yet dont do this

also philips tv have an auto picture size mode which ill uto stretch the 4:3 pic to 16:9 etc. this would be handy on the samsung considerin the bowing on the 4:3 picture & its pain to switch between wide zoom to get rid of the 4 sided blck bars, sparkle at top & bowing at bottom on commercials b then emeber o witch back to "just scan" or 16:9.... p.i.t.a!

on top of it my stand has a scratch/dent in the ront top center of it which bothers me but its so much trouble to replce it as costco will make you return the whole tv & tand just to hope this time you get a stand that doesnt have achip in the top b then hop there is nothing else rong with the tv or ayting since you had to get whole new deal.

as it is i had to rent a truck twice. once fri night to get the hlt6756 as i couldnt do it saturday & was worried i wouldnt get home in time sunday or they would be gone but they close so early i only had time to pick up the new one. so when i did get home in time sunday i had to pay to rent truck again though i was thinking about trying to fit the hls67 in my midsize suv out of box but ultimately just wasnt worth it & i already had baby car seat installed which would be in the way etc so i said forget it & rented another truck.

costco is just a pita and too much trouble & i think they do it on purpose to make it harder for you. so now thta i made use of my one grandfahered in return i dont hink ill buy tvs from them anymore as that was the only reason to before. this tv was never available online to order & have shipped or me. while the diff in tax between $2500 & $2100 pays for one truck rental but not two plus thetax is more then shipping.

you can order other models online for a lower price, tax free b free shipping from plces like amazon. thats the thing though, you cant seem to get a 67" samsung anywhere else. last year sams club hd the hls6767 briefly at a few locations but mostly it was costco & this moel (though somehow we arent supposed to mention the retaler?) isnt availale anywhere else online or b&m.

samsung jumps from 61" to 72" unless you want to deal with costco for the 67"

dont get me wrong the tv looks great esthetically, samungs are the best rptvms to me & the hlt6756 is about as good as the hlt6187 othough thats a led model) and is an amazng price (well before tax) but costco is a pita, the tax & not being avalaible online even if you wanted to pay shipping (while other merchants offer tax & shipping free) ad this hlt6756 defintely has some flaws making it in some ways worse then last yeas hl6767 while also being better in other ways.

im goin to be keeping my eyes open for price drop on this model in the nxt 90 days or so & hopefully if the mod nazis lighten up, ppl can report such drops just as we did in the hl6767 thread.

also will be looking for the other 67" samsung model ive seen in lists & even a possible pic as well as any other comparable 67-73" models, but none are prob going to be this low priced for some time as this will prob remain the best deal or some time espcially now tha the coupon is over.

so i guess there will be less purchasing talk now & will be more of an hlt6756 owners thread, now that coupon is over.... unless ayone got raincheck.

any solution to the bowing, the blck bars on all 4 sides of the pic, & the sprkle at top of screen?

Has anyone else experience the following apparent firmware bug on the HL-T6756W?

I am having trouble getting my TV to remember my selected channels. My Cox cable feed is connected directly to the cable input on the TV. I allowed the TV to auto scan for all available channels and then I deleted the channels I am not interested in, and added a few of those channels to my "favorites".

As I cycle thru the channels, some of the channels that I deleted are still visible and there are some channels in my favorites that I did not select.

I have made multiple attempts to delete channels, only to have them reappear.

Is there a way to get firmware updates for Samsung TVs?

Anyone have any thoughts on how well this TV deinterlaces 1080i input?

TIA

Thanks, I will test that claim but assuming you are right, that explains why no sound from the two HDMI sources is coming out of the TV into my reciever. I do see the optical audio out is sending something because the red light is glowing on the back of the TV optical audio out and also at the other end of the optical cable when it is plugged into the TV audio out. I assume that that digital signal is from the internal HD tuner....I do have cable plugged into the back.

Assuming you are right though, that measn I also have an issue with my COax digital audio input to my Onkyo receiver. I can get the receiver to play optical audio inputs but it does nothing with the coax audio inputs. I know this is off topic but any ideas there guys?

Please understand you are dealing with an electronics retard here.

OK, now that Ive purchased the TV (looks great). I need to get a AV receiver that is compatible with the TV. Something with HDMI capabilities that will maximize this TV's potential. Dont need to go overboard with gadgets and gimmicks , but something that will sound good and get the job done.

Looking at Onkyo, Yamaha, but Im open to suggestions.

What AV Receiver would you get for THIS TV (6756W) to maximize its potential.

You can't go wrong with either of those brands. The Yammy 661 is a great bang for the buck. I have the 861 which adds some power and upscaling features. I've read great things about the Onkyos, but read the threads about popping issues.

You guys are spooking me a little regarding these bowing and blob issues. Mine is still in its box in the garage waiting for me to finish the ent. center. Has anyone actually spoken to Samsung about these issues? Is there any official response yet? I looked pretty closely at the demo at Costco and didn't notice any blobs. I didn't see the bowing because it was an HD signal and no lines were present to judge by. If they all do it, I have no reason to expect mine to be any different. So, I just hope it's nothing that bothers me enough to return it. I've already promised the stand to a friend (as I won't need it). Now, I'm gonna have to make him wait.

Njmurvin,

I have had my set for four weeks. I do have bowing on the 4:3 mode and as you have read, this is an unfortunate "feature " but to me is a non-issue since I watch HD TV almost exclusively at the 16:9 mode. Some of the commercials on these HD broadcasts are in 4:3, but I could care less how the commercial looks. I have looked hard and cannot see any bowing at this setting in the 16:9 mode even though it could be there. I watched the football game yesterday and everything looked fine. I truly tried to see a defect and couldn't. I think most owners will tell you they can't see it in the 16:9 mode or if they can, it is so minor it is a non-issue. I am not saying this is not a problem. Some people may have a TV that is much worse than mine.

As far as the smudge, mine does not have that either. I feel sorry for anyone with that issue. The pictures posted on a previous message were using what appeared to be a test pattern (worse case scenario). I am wondering what it looks like during a broadcast and if you can still see it. That doesn't excuse the quality problem, but I'm wondering how it looks in use. I am also interested in what Costco or Samsung has to say on that issue. It could be a shipping problem if the units were stacked up with the screen pointing down. Just a guess. I sincerely hope the others who have recently been posting about the smudge problem can get a replacement or have Samsung fix it. This is too good of a TV to have something like that detract from the performance. I also hope in the future Samsung can have some kind of software change that could rectify the bowing problem for those people that are bothered by it.

If you were to ask me to rate my TV on a scale of 1-10, I would give it a 9.5. The only real detractor to me was the 2 HDMI ports instead of 3 or 4 like most TVs come with. I can easily solve that with a HDMI splitter switch for $30-$50, thought I wish i didn't have to go that route. I also would say that the bowing contributed to the less than perfect rating but while I wish it were a 10, I can live with 9.5

Bottom line, I bought this TV to watch High Def, and when I do, the picture is incredible. I hope you are as lucky as me when you turn on your TV. Enjoy!

Just a small update for those following the "smudge" issue on this thread. It's all fairly positive news so I hope the issues I have reported don't worry too many new buyers out there. Samsung returned my call this morning and I was able to confirm an appointment with a service tech for Wednesday morning. Pretty fast service if you ask me. Very professional and courteous on the phone too. Someone here mentioned this being a common issue among DLP sets so I checked the HLS Samsung DLP thread and sure enough, I found numerous posts involving smudges. After reading several of them, it seems one of two problems.

1) actual smudges in between the two screens that make up your screen, or
2) dirt/dust on the light engine that is being projected up to the screen

Both of these can be fixed by a service tech. Check out that thread and do a search for "smudge" for more details. So, I'll post back again on Wednesday after the tech visits. I'll also ask him about the bowing issues, which both sets I had also exhibit.

Suncom3,

I was wondering if you knew you can adjust the screen position both vertically and horizontally. It is described on page 34. I may be interpreting your report wrong, but thought I would pass this along.

I still don't understand. I have the TV hooked up to my stereo receiver using a digital optical cable. I have the cable going into a combo DVD/VCR player (don't have a high def cable box yet), and I have a coax cable, component video, stereo RCA audio cables, and HDMI cable connections from the DVD/VCR player to the TV. I also have xbox 360 and Nintendo gamecube inputs to the TV. I get audio to the TV on all inputs, and audio to the stereo receiver on all inputs except HDMI.

For example, If I have the DVD/VCR player power off, and use the TV tuner, I get audio to the stereo on all channels, digital and analog. If I have the TV on channel 3, and use the VCR channel selector, I get audio on the receiver on all channels. If I play a DVD using cable or component input, I get audio to the receiver. If I play XBOX or Nintendo games, I get audio to the receiver. BUT if I play a DVD on HDMI input, I get no audio on the stereo receiver. Why would that be the only exception?
Thanks

JBanks,
HDMI is sending a digital signal to the TV which has DRM (digital rights management) which does not allow the data to be passed through the TV.
Its all about the recording studios and tv networks trying to keep people from recording hi-def programing.
If you look all of the DVD recorders on the market, to my knowledge, none of them have anything higher than a s-video and analog audio input. No digital inputs of any kind!!!
You might try PCM as I thought I saw in the manual but not yet tested on my HL-T6756w that PCM 2 channel audio will be passed through.
The only way I know how to use HDMI for the audio is to have a HDMI swiching reciever. Take a look at the Onkyo TX-SR605 for an inexpensive but good quality HDMI swiching reciever.
Hope this helps explain the issue...would'nt it be nice to plug all of your inputs into the tv and only one cable to the reciever!!!!!!

One last thought...if your DVD player has 5 channel output on the back, (i.e. one rca output for each channel) then you could hook that up to your reciever if you have that same 5 channel input on the reciever.

AJ

Been following this thread for a while waiting to pull the trigger on the 6756 (have a rain check good for 30 days). But last week when I looked at the Sammy and then looked at the Panny (60U) - I thought the Plasma looked better. Understand the whole 720 P thing - am going to put into basement and hook it up to a VIP 622 from Dish. Any thoughts on which way to go. Kids will play Wii on this as well - a little concerned about plasma burn in. BTW already have the 37 Panny and love it. Thoughts?

Tx

i forgot to mention that while i like the fact the stand has 2 shelves compared to last years hls67 1 shelf but i almot prefered that helfs suction cups instead if the little black sticky pads that place on the shelves frames that the glass shelves rest on. well like many stands that use these sticly pads they just slide off when the glss shelf moves or shifts & in some plces the shelf doesnt even lay on the stand frame and therefore neither the pads on it.

plus even when you screw down the clamp in the back to hold he shelf it doesnt hold it in place.

also though not quite as bad as last years hls67 stand, it & the tv do seem to lean forward.

not to mention the front of my top of the stand that he tv sits on has a chip in it that was there when i got it. and that was after i had them switch stands for me in store cus the one they already had on a flat cart had holes in he box. now i wonder if he other hl675 still on the pallete might have been better too, but i guess they all have bowing.

as for he stand these are all common problems with stands like this & it is a free included stand that is otherwise half decent, but the stand gripes add to my overall complaints with the tv as i sit here & watch attack of the show on g4 in 4:3 with he mot bowing ive ever had on any tv including last yeas hl6767 & the hlt6187 i have.

a bit disappointing & im wondering if the out of box colors & picture was better on the hls6767, because on the hlt6756 they seem a tad off at times or overly bright in a distorted way.

just saw a commercial with black bars on the top & bottom as well as the sides like a 4:3 picture. what is with these small square commercials with blck bars on all 4 sides? i realize maybe the tv when set to just scan is showing what size/res the commrcial or program is ctually being broadcast in but why have a 67" tv to have it reduced to a postage stamp for some material.

Seadawg,
I just purchased the Onkyo 875 to go with this TV. I am very pleased...the best feature is the Upscaling of EVERY input (composite, SVideo, component, HDMI) and EVERY resolution (480i/p, 720p, 1080i) to 1080P sent to the TV via HDMI. This actually makes standard def DirecTV bearable and the HD picture is phenominal.

Oh, and at 140W/channel the sound is very clean and impressive. (also has 4 HDMI inputs).

This is a new model and a little hard to find...but worth the effort in my opinion. Got mine a JR.com for a pretty good deal.

- John

PS - Popping issues (mentioned earlier) were reported when usings PS3...I've got a PS3 connected and have never yet heard a pop!

plasma does have the bright and vivid look you don't quite get with RPTV, so if you like it, then go for it. burn in is less a problem on new plasmas, unless you play games a lot. and Panny makes good plasmas.


Me, I like them big and good, big plasmas are out of my budget.

well, companies think it's cool to make commercials in widescreen. the idea is to make them look like movies and stand out. these commercials show up on SD sets having black bars on top and bottom. if they're available in HD, then they show up on HD sets in glorious full screen HD. But if they're in SD, then they also show up on HD sets with bars on top and bottom. But since SD is only 4x3, you also get bars on the sides too unless you stretch the picture. ergo, you end up with bars all around. Nice.

Tx Actually the price has come down so much ont he 60 U cause its last years model. Almost same as 6756

AJ,

Thanks for the info. Is the DRM encoded in commercial DVD's? If so, I guess I can test this out by seeing if a "Homemade DVD" without DRM passes thru on HDMI input. In the near future, I plan to "upgrade" my cable service to digital/HD (Cablevision IO). At that time, I expect to have a cablebox with a HDMI cable connected to the TV. Based on what you're saying, I wouldn't get any audio from any TV broadcasts passed thru to the receiver. What would be a "workaround" for that? How do most people hook up to their receivers?

Thanks,
JB

>>Been following this thread for a while waiting to pull the trigger on the 6756 (have a rain check good for 30 days). But last week when I looked at the Sammy and then looked at the Panny (60U) - I thought the Plasma looked better. Understand the whole 720 P thing - am going to put into basement and hook it up to a VIP 622 from Dish. Any thoughts on which way to go. Kids will play Wii on this as well - a little concerned about plasma burn in. BTW already have the 37 Panny and love it. Thoughts?

Tx >>>>

Look at the size difference, 1080P, and look at the power usage. At my power rates, .07 per kwh, the DLP (230Watts total) saves over $128 in electricity for the minimum 3000 hour bulb life compared to 60 inch plasma. So the bulb at $150 is pretty much free. Then take into account you have a space heater at over 750 watts with the Plasma. The AC to cool that beast will be significant.

Jim

This bowing problem is definately the screen warped concave. I can see it with the TV off. when I lightly push on the screen near the warped line in 4:3, the line moves a little. What is the "paper fix" I've heard mentioned? I assume it's shimming the screen. I think the screen is held too tightly by the frame and is not allowed to float. It might be an easy fix to just unfasten it from the frame restraints, and then refasten, allowing it to flex more flat before being constrained. Exactly how though is the question.

Jim