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post #541 of 578
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Originally Posted by PaulGo View Post

With my PS3 no setup was necessary on the Samsung. You do need to use HDMI and 18080p.

I don't know if my TV goes up to 18080p, just kidding. I have it set to 1080p with HDMI. Guess I'll try the update and see what happens.

Update completed:

I just finished doing the V2.5 upgrade on the A-20, selected 1080p/24 from the menu but when I select the TV 'info button' once a disc is playing, it still displays 1920X1080 60hz. I tried a few different discs, but no luck.

Any suggestions?
post #542 of 578
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Originally Posted by CRH07xx View Post

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I just finished doing the V2.5 upgrade on the A-20, selected 1080p/24 from the menu but when I select the TV 'info button' once a disc is playing, it still displays 1920X1080 60hz. I tried a few different discs, but no luck.

Any suggestions?

I just heard from someone in the XA2 forum that Toshiba's do not *FORCE* it into 24FPS mode. So in my case, when I play BD-P1400, my TV shows 1080P/24. But with Toshiba, it shows 1080P/60. I was told that upcoming FW update will have the ability to force it into 24fps mode.
post #543 of 578
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Originally Posted by Njmurvin View Post


Bottom line, the bowing is hard to miss if you're looking for it.

The bowing is hard to miss even if you're NOT looking for it.
On my s6756w, the bowing is very noticeable, and not just
on 4:3 material. Any HD prog that has straight verticle lines
the bowing is very objectionable. For example "Rules of Engagement"
on CBS. Since it is shot mostly in apartment scenes with verticle
edge doorways,
hanging curtains, etc., the bowing 'jumps off the screen'.
In outdoor scenes, not so much.
Is there a fix for this? What about the service menu?
post #544 of 578
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Originally Posted by hansangb View Post

I just heard from someone in the XA2 forum that Toshiba's do not *FORCE* it into 24FPS mode. So in my case, when I play BD-P1400, my TV shows 1080P/24. But with Toshiba, it shows 1080P/60. I was told that upcoming FW update will have the ability to force it into 24fps mode.

this tv the Samsung HLT6756 (btw to the post above there was no hls6756 only hls6767) you can't do 1080p/24 so why are you talking about some toshiba tv that can do 24hz in a samsung hlt67xx thread.

btw is there any need for the xx anymore as no other HLT67 model came out besides the hlt6756 yet right. i know there was rumor and picture of some other hlt6776 model i believe but it never came out.
post #545 of 578
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Originally Posted by Quatre View Post

this tv the Samsung HLT6756 (btw to the post above there was no hls6756 only hls6767) you can't do 1080p/24 so why are you talking about some toshiba tv that can do 24hz in a samsung hlt67xx thread.

btw is there any need for the xx anymore as no other HLT67 model came out besides the hlt6756 yet right. i know there was rumor and picture of some other hlt6776 model i believe but it never came out.


I wasn't talking about a Toshiba TV. I was talking about HD-XA2 HDDVD player. So what you are saying is that when i shows 1080p/24, it's only cosmetic?

When I hit INFO when playing BDP1400, it shows 1080/24. When I hit INFO when playing HD-XA2, it shows 1080/60.
post #546 of 578
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Originally Posted by roller11 View Post

The bowing is hard to miss even if you're NOT looking for it.
On my s6756w, the bowing is very noticeable, and not just
on 4:3 material. Any HD prog that has straight verticle lines
the bowing is very objectionable. For example "Rules of Engagement"
on CBS. Since it is shot mostly in apartment scenes with verticle
edge doorways,
hanging curtains, etc., the bowing 'jumps off the screen'.
In outdoor scenes, not so much.
Is there a fix for this? What about the service menu?

No fix for bowing on these sets
post #547 of 578
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Originally Posted by tlbowerts View Post

No fix for bowing on these sets

That's kinda my understanding as well. If anyone comes up with one, I'm sure this forum will be the place to find it. I've resigned myself to it. At first, it really bugged me. Now, I hardly notice it in HD (except as pointed out above, when straight vertical objects are on screen). Would I like it fixed? Sure. Am I going to return it and spend $600-$1000 more on a Mits with its own issues? I don't think so.
post #548 of 578
Guys, I'm just about at the end of my rope with this tv. SSE on mine is almost unwatchable. I have contrast and bright down as low as I can, as I tend to like a darker overall pic anyway. Bowing on 4x3, as well as HD, is starting to really bother me. Also, on 4x3, the vertical line on the bow is often colored differently - not sure what to call this. I'm aware of tv imperfections, and how things are "magnified" at 67", but this is almost too much to take. Yes, the pic is beautiful on the baseball, but still a lot of flashes of SSE. Now that it's burned in my head, every time I see it, it drives me nuts. Anyone else feeling the same way abot this tv???
post #549 of 578
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Originally Posted by reguy View Post

Guys, I'm just about at the end of my rope with this tv. SSE on mine is almost unwatchable. I have contrast and bright down as low as I can, as I tend to like a darker overall pic anyway. Bowing on 4x3, as well as HD, is starting to really bother me. Also, on 4x3, the vertical line on the bow is often colored differently - not sure what to call this. I'm aware of tv imperfections, and how things are "magnified" at 67", but this is almost too much to take. Yes, the pic is beautiful on the baseball, but still a lot of flashes of SSE. Now that it's burned in my head, every time I see it, it drives me nuts. Anyone else feeling the same way abot this tv???

I do not see SSE at all and I am very happy with the set. Perhaps before you give up call Samsung and maybe they can adjust it a bit better.
post #550 of 578
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Originally Posted by PaulGo View Post

I do not see SSE at all and I am very happy with the set. Perhaps before you give up call Samsung and maybe they can adjust it a bit better.

I can't help but wonder if, like RBE, SSE is specific to only some eyes. I have never seen RBE, which is one of the reasons I went with DLP. Traded an HP 52" DLP for this monster, and never saw SSE effect on that set. Now that I know it's there, I see it all the time. Contrast and bright turned down to 30 and 35 respectively. Don't know what else I can do....
post #551 of 578
From HDTV magazine:
"Another issue that affects Rear Projection TVs is something known as Silk Screen Effect (SSE). Some viewers can see the texture of the screen in front of the image. Its pretty bad on the default settings. It can be minimized and almost eliminated by properly setting you contrast and brightness. With that said it is still noticeable under certain viewing conditions. In Ara's case it is most noticeable when watching hockey and specifically when looking at the ice. But after calibration it has not detracted from the overall look of the game."
(Mitsubishi 65 inch 1080p DLP)

Maybe on larger screen some people have a problem. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
post #552 of 578
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Originally Posted by PaulGo View Post

From HDTV magazine:
"Another issue that affects Rear Projection TVs is something known as Silk Screen Effect (SSE). Some viewers can see the texture of the screen in front of the image. Its pretty bad on the default settings. It can be minimized and almost eliminated by properly setting you contrast and brightness. With that said it is still noticeable under certain viewing conditions. In Ara's case it is most noticeable when watching hockey and specifically when looking at the ice. But after calibration it has not detracted from the overall look of the game."
(Mitsubishi 65 inch 1080p DLP)

Maybe on larger screen some people have a problem. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Thanks for the info. I am in the process of playing with contr and bright right now. Can't seem to eliminate or even lessen with adjustment. MNF is still laced with SSE - now have c & b at 20. Maybe now that I have seen it, I can't look past it, so to speak. Others owners please let me know your observations on SSE.
post #553 of 578
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Originally Posted by reguy View Post

Thanks for the info. I am in the process of playing with contr and bright right now. Can't seem to eliminate or even lessen with adjustment. MNF is still laced with SSE - now have c & b at 20. Maybe now that I have seen it, I can't look past it, so to speak. Others owners please let me know your observations on SSE.

As posted by Eliab a while back. Give it a shot.

Digital NR - OFF
DNIe - Off
Mode - Movie
Contrast - 40
Brightness - 42
Sharpness - 0
Color - 45
Tint - G50/R50
Color Tone - Warm2
post #554 of 578
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Originally Posted by hansangb View Post

As posted by Eliab a while back. Give it a shot.

Digital NR - OFF
DNIe - Off
Mode - Movie
Contrast - 40
Brightness - 42
Sharpness - 0
Color - 45
Tint - G50/R50
Color Tone - Warm2

Will do and post back......
post #555 of 578
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Originally Posted by reguy View Post

Thanks for the info. I am in the process of playing with contr and bright right now. Can't seem to eliminate or even lessen with adjustment. MNF is still laced with SSE - now have c & b at 20. Maybe now that I have seen it, I can't look past it, so to speak. Others owners please let me know your observations on SSE.

reguy,

I cannot see any SSE on mine. I do wear reading glasses but my distance vision is good. I generally watch TV from 8-12 feet away and the picture is perfect. I see no SSE with the brightness and contrast set very high or low.

You can probably determine if it is your eyes or the TV. Do you see this SSE issue in stores on othr TVs? Costco is still selling the TV. If you can go into the store and see if it is the same. You might want to look at the Mitsubishi 65" while you are there. It is possible there is something wrong with your TV.

Keep us posted
post #556 of 578
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Originally Posted by bidhightakeall View Post

reguy,

I cannot see any SSE on mine. I do wear reading glasses but my distance vision is good. I generally watch TV from 8-12 feet away and the picture is perfect. I see no SSE with the brightness and contrast set very high or low.

You can probably determine if it is your eyes or the TV. Do you see this SSE issue in stores on othr TVs? Costco is still selling the TV. If you can go into the store and see if it is the same. You might want to look at the Mitsubishi 65" while you are there. It is possible there is something wrong with your TV.

Keep us posted

I sit approx 12' away and SSE is driving me crazy! It's almost like looking at one of those 3D pics where you look "through" the top layer at the back layers. That's how I feel with this tv. The loops that run in C* really don't have any SSE material to bring it out. It is interesting to think that maybe there is something wrong with my tv, but I can't imagine what would cause such an effect. The Mits at C* also has a beaut pic, but I think I'm at the end of my rope with rp tv. Willing to sacrifice some size for plasma picture.....
post #557 of 578
Adjustments made. Still checking material. Will post back soon.
post #558 of 578
Anybody know if there is a difference between using a standard 3 pronged cable between the cable box and the TV or using a HDMI cable.

If so, are HDMI cable pretty much all the same or is there a better brand?
post #559 of 578
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Originally Posted by hansangb View Post

I wasn't talking about a Toshiba TV. I was talking about HD-XA2 HDDVD player. So what you are saying is that when i shows 1080p/24, it's only cosmetic?

When I hit INFO when playing BDP1400, it shows 1080/24. When I hit INFO when playing HD-XA2, it shows 1080/60.

No, I dont know. All I know is noone thought it was supposed to be able to do 1080p/24 and i dont think it said it could anywhere in the specs or anything but if the info displays 1080p/24 then mayb somehow it can or its simulting it. prob just reporting but maybe not really doing it.

plus doesn't it say 1920x1080 24hz or something cus i know it doesnt' show the p when its 1080p it shows an i if its 1080i but if its 1080p it just says 1920x1080 and if no i then you know its p. heh

anyway I just got DirecTV for tons of hd channels and finally getting isf pro calibration for my HLT6756 which I'm thinking is going to be a big improvement.

it wan't horrible but the colors out of the box were not as good as the previous year HLS6767.

My main question right now on the hlt6756. Does it have a QAM tuner? i forget and really hoping it does because i may soon be making use of it with a comcast cable fed coax direct into the tv and Directv hd dvr via hdmi into hdmi receiver and then into tv.

need the comcast for my rsn of comcat sportsnet philly which isn't available on dtv. plus to get some ota hd chans without having to set up an ota hd antenna. the comcast fed coax will get way more ch ans then any ota hd antenna but of course its amonthly fee as opposed to the one time fee of an ota antenna.

i was hoping i could plus the comcat fed coax into the off air input of the dtv stb which is made for an ota antenna and then get the comcast chans and sub chans in the dtv guide as you get them with an ota antenna in teh guide.

but apparently it supposedly doesn't work to plug the cable provider fed coax in the off air input of dtv box but i'm goign to try and if not i just hope this tv has a qam tuner for direct to tv coax connection.
post #560 of 578
Boy, this thread hit the brakes. I think I've had it with my issues with this tv, and it's going back to C*****. Sorry to say, but, for me, RP is dead. I'm moving into a 60" plasma. I'm sure I'll have to get used to the "shrinkage", but I should be MUCH happier overall.
post #561 of 578
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Originally Posted by reguy View Post

Boy, this thread hit the brakes. I think I've had it with my issues with this tv, and it's going back to C*****. Sorry to say, but, for me, RP is dead. I'm moving into a 60" plasma. I'm sure I'll have to get used to the "shrinkage", but I should be MUCH happier overall.

reguy,

Sorry to hear you couldn't solve the problem. In a previous message I asked if you saw this SSE on other RP sets like the Mitsubishi? I also assume you are watching HD broadcasts, not standard. Right?

Before you buy a Plasma make sure the room you will be watching it in has little or no ambient light. It should be in a relatively dark room without sunlight or incandescent lights reflecting off the screen. I have a friend who has a 50" plasma in a room that reflects lights from a kitchen at night and I find the picture almost unwatchable, as you do with the SSE. The larger the TV the worse the impact of refection is.

Each of the three technologies has its issues:

Plasma has a great picture and no response time problem like LCDs, but it does have a reflection problem, and a possible burn-in if the same picture including the black bars present during std broadcast, is left on for too long. Finally the price is two to three times more for an equivalent picture size when compared to RP.

LCD has a great picture with little reflection in my opinion, but it can suffer from motion artifacts in fast moving scenes or sports. This problem is becoming less of an issue as the response times on the newer sets are at 4ms and going down. The main drawback for a LCD is they are not available to the general public in the size of the 67". I have seen good 52" sets for $3,000. 60" or larger run $5000 to $10,000+ for a 1080p set with response time at 4ms.

Rear Projections
strong suit is price (you can get a 73" for $3000) and little reflection. The drawback is they are larger (depth, though not heavier) than LCD or Plasma's, require a bulb change every 3 years (approx) that costs from $150-$225 ($149 for the bulb on this tV). Finally on this model and some others, there is a bowing effect that is noticeable. You and one or two others have commented about SSE but I think that is either a defective set or is unique to a small number of people. This may be a similar issue as the Rainbow effect.

All Technologies: I would caution anyone about making judgments on a large screen HDTV when watching sporting events. I believe strongly that most picture problems spotted during those telecasts are the source problem. Even when the event is on high def telecast, not all the cameras used are high def. This is true even on NFL broadcasts. Most of the approx 15 cameras they have are HD, but several are not. Those non-high def cameras produce a relatively poor picture. To me the best way to judge a HDTV is to watch a known HD source. We have a channel called "Universal HD" that shows most of its programs in high def. They are stunning! Many local news stations have their programs in HD. The anchors in the studio look great, but as soon as they switch to the roving reporters who have standard cameras, the picture looks lousy. Lastly, don't forget most of us are moving up significantly in the size of the TV. Any picture or source problems are magnified on our big screens. As more and more of the channels convert to HD and the old cameras are phased out, I think a lot of our problems will disappear. It may take two to three years to happen, but I am not in a hurry. Even if I was, there is nothing I could do about it!

Bottom line is if you are watching it in a darkened room and have the money to pay for a 60" Plasma, I think you would be making a good choice. Feel bad for you for your RP experience and hope you will be happy with your Plasma.
post #562 of 578
got my HL-T6756 isp pro calibrated. the colors didn't seem to be as accurate out of the box as the HL-S6767 and is what made me want to get the calibration even more.

My HL-T6756 looks very realistic in color now and both SD and HD are better. it def takes some getting used to if you are used to torch mode and exagerated over saturated colors, but then you see that overall the pq and viewing experience is greatly improved with a calibration especially on a set like this that has a lot of tweaking that can be done with some of the most in depth parameters to set.

the samsung dlps calibrate very well and benefit from an isf pro calibration greatly.

Enjoying my HL-T6756 more then ever. tv, movies and video games plus home video are all improved.

I know Samsung is making a 72" led dlp next where as the largest on is still currently 61" but will there be a 67" led sam dlp at costco or elsewhere? need something in between like 65-67" as 61 to 72" is just to big of a jump.
post #563 of 578
Im trying to get my ps3 to look its best with this tv,I have it set to 1080p 24 hrtz through hdmi in the sonys settings,does the super white mode help any?

It looks great but for some reason there seems to be alot of noise in the picture,more so than 1080i with my hd tivo

I have the tv set to movie mode with
contrast-45
brightness-42
shrpness-0
color-50
warm2
post #564 of 578
Has anyone tried adjusting the 4:3 bowing with the cam screws on the top of the back of the TV? I noticed in another thread someone had mentioned this awhile back. Im gonna give a look at it when I get home and see if they are even there or not.
post #565 of 578
I notice that my bowing is most severe at the bottom of the screen. It's a shame. This TV would be near perfect were it not for this issue. It's not very noticeable in HD. But, my DirecTV guide and menus have a lot of boxes (vertical lines) and it really looks bad on those.
post #566 of 578
Anyone notice that the other big club retailer has the 72" up on their website for almost the exact same price as the 67"? Its only in a few locations you see it on their webpage, and the link is broken, but it was spotted in store with a few pics here.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...d.php?t=550191
post #567 of 578
Has anyone been successful getting Samsung to resolve the bowing issue? My brother just purchased a 67" latest generation Samsung DLP (don't know the model - but it has the LED lamp) and it's straight as an arrow - no bowing. So, obviously, they know how to fix it. Question is, is it too late for our model?
post #568 of 578
Hello fellow dlp owners,

I seem to have a dead bug or piece of dust on the mirror or something inside the tv and I can see it blowing in the wind when my ac is on.

In my other sam led dlp I had a bug crawling around in it which showed up on screen but then it went away. I've seen reports of other pol havi g this and in a good few years bow of like 3-4 diff dlp sets only just had this happen now twice.

I'm assuming I need to access inside the tv and gently wipe the mirror and/or the light projection area.

How do you get the round side access panels off? I ca pry it open at the top and bottom but the sides seemed locked in place and I dos t want to break the access panel off.

I peaked in a d saw the little light projection area at the base of the tv covered by a piece of glass so that probably needs to be dusted off and looks like it shines up to an framed in area which is probablY the mirror which reflects onto the screen so the piece of dust or whatever is probably on the mirror.

Even with the access pa el off will I be able to reach on that far to remove the debris that is showing up on my screen in the mower left but not all the way in the bottom left corner. It's about 1/4 of the way in towards the middle on the bottom left corner and that fact that I see it moving when my ac is on mea s air is somehow getting in there even though there is no ac vent right behind the tv or anything.

Please advise.

How to remove debris showing up on screen and if I do in fact needto remove the circular access pa el on the side to get in there and dust off the mirror then....
how do I remove that round access panel

thanks in advance
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post #570 of 578
Just saw an HL-T6756 that is isf pro calibrated an comes with an extra lamp on ebay currently for $56 with only one day left.

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...d=400184159925[
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