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post #1471 of 19885
9/23/07 at 3:30pm
Thank you bwclark. That did it. Thanks again.
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post #1472 of 19885
9/24/07 at 7:07am
Kind of obscure question, but has anyone tried the delay test on Guitar Hero II when using a 360 through HDMI? The Onkyo's (reported for the 875 and 905) appear to insert a 40ms+ delay even when set to "passthrough" and I'm hoping the 3808 does not do the same.
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post #1473 of 19885
9/24/07 at 7:54am
I finally figured (from reading this forum) I needed to get my network audio up and working. Simply amazing! I just load my CD's into Windows Media Player at best quality, and I can listen to them throught the receiver as long as the computer is on! Sounds really good, too, even through the wireless router. This receiver was a great purchase.

I know, *duh*, this is old hat. But I am still happy!
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post #1474 of 19885
9/24/07 at 10:45am
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Originally Posted by SpankyInChicago View Post

As bwclark pointed out, you can't output HDMI audio to digital outs, analog outs, or the zone 2/3 pre-outs. I doubt this is a Denon shortcoming but more a HDCP (and/or HDMI) thing.

But are you saying that you can't get the HDMI sound to come out of the amp assign speaker outputs assigned to zone 2?

Thanks for the help.

You can not get any HDMI to convert to zone2.
You have to use co-ax or optical. Not only that, but you can not send a 5.1 or higher signal. you must send 2.0 signal.

so would have to change to pcm surround for DVD and OTHER on the audio settings in the hd cable box.

this is very annoying

i just ended up adding analog L and R cables to the mix, i bought this to get away from that.
it's very dissapointing it just can't down convert the signal for me...
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post #1475 of 19885
9/24/07 at 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by Challkhmc View Post

Would someone please explain the following audio options?

Dolby Pro Logic IIx, with Cinema, Music and Game modes
dts ES Discrete 6.1 and dts ES Matrix 6.1 decoding
dts Neo:6 Stereo-to-Surround Cinema and Music modes
dts 96/24 5.1 for DVD-Video processing

What are their relative merits of these formats and when should I use them?

I have been using DTS for Blu Ray movies and Dolby Pro Logic for HD movies over cable. Should I use a different set-up?

ALso, I have had to jack up the surround speakers on my 5.1 system (all B&W 5" bookshelves and center) by 3db to get a better surround effect. Is this common or just a function of the ideosyncracies of my room?

Good question, when do you use Dolby or dts modes?
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post #1476 of 19885
9/24/07 at 1:50pm
Just got off the phone with Denon CS & he said the firmware upgrade should be out this week or next & it will be huge & it will reset your receiver to all the default settings but this will be the only time that will happen.

He also said there will be new channels on their web site & by calling CS to report bugs.
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post #1477 of 19885
9/24/07 at 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by TheMoose View Post

Just got off the phone with Denon CS & he said the firmware upgrade should be out this week or next & it will be huge & it will reset your receiver to all the default settings but this will be the only time that will happen.

He also said there will be new channels on their web site & by calling CS to report bugs.

hey guys,

i got a firmware update on saturday. are you guys waiting for them to post it or did you go into the GUI and try it.

if you are up to date it will tell you after about 3 minutes.

kevin
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post #1478 of 19885
9/24/07 at 5:31pm
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Originally Posted by TheMoose View Post

Just got off the phone with Denon CS & he said the firmware upgrade should be out this week or next & it will be huge & it will reset your receiver to all the default settings but this will be the only time that will happen.

He also said there will be new channels on their web site & by calling CS to report bugs.

I already documented all my settings to ease the resetup.
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post #1479 of 19885
9/24/07 at 6:28pm
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Originally Posted by kevinwoodward View Post

hey guys,

i got a firmware update on saturday. are you guys waiting for them to post it or did you go into the GUI and try it.

if you are up to date it will tell you after about 3 minutes.

kevin

No -- I still get "Login Failed". Mr woodward did you record before and after firmware versions? what version are you on?
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post #1480 of 19885
9/24/07 at 6:37pm
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Originally Posted by VideoBoy58 View Post

I already documented all my settings to ease the resetup.

Ditto.........I also have everything documented for every setting.

Bring on the FW update...but first let me know what is being changed.

Perhaps that will happen on the Denon Update web page:
http://usa.denon.com/ProductUpdatesUpgrades.asp
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post #1481 of 19885
9/24/07 at 6:37pm
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I already documented all my settings to ease the resetup.

I assume there is no way to document the Audyssey settings? Going through the 8 position setup is time consuming process.
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post #1482 of 19885
9/24/07 at 7:14pm
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I assume there is no way to document the Audyssey settings? Going through the 8 position setup is time consuming process.

It may be a good idea to redo it anyway, they may have tweaked the Audyssey setup, you may get "better" results. Even though I turned Room EQ off for mine, I think I'll still do it again, just to see what it comes up with and still have some settings as I sometimes turn Room EQ on to see what it sounds like with different sources.
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post #1483 of 19885
9/24/07 at 7:15pm
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Bring on the FW update...but first let me know what is being changed.
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I agree, I'd like to see the changelog first and also see how the upgrade goes for a few brave soldiers first I'd much rather deal with the current bugs than end up with a bricked Denon that I'd have to package and send back.
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post #1484 of 19885
9/24/07 at 7:34pm
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Originally Posted by SirDracula View Post

I agree, I'd like to see the changelog first and also see how the upgrade goes for a few brave soldiers first I'd much rather deal with the current bugs than end up with a bricked Denon that I'd have to package and send back.

I may just wait a day or two my self. Unless they provide a means to revert back to the default firmware.
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post #1485 of 19885
9/24/07 at 7:40pm
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Originally Posted by jkim90 View Post

I assume there is no way to document the Audyssey settings? Going through the 8 position setup is time consuming process.

why do 8 settings, my guess is it just averages out
pick your seat and forget it.

anyone else have an opinion on that?
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post #1486 of 19885
9/24/07 at 7:42pm
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Originally Posted by CDAHL View Post

No -- I still get "Login Failed". Mr woodward did you record before and after firmware versions? what version are you on?

so....

can you get on a internet radio station? in other words are you SURE you have a connection? DHCP and default gateways
i thought my port was live but it wasn't
so i ran a 50 footer to the area... tried a laptop to confirm wired connection
then it worked perfectly


not sure how to see the version.
it's also annoying that while it updates you lose the onscreen setting and only get the receivers display....

i also do not think i lost my settings when i did it since the measurements are still in there... i would need to reconfirm that though....
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post #1487 of 19885
9/24/07 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by SirDracula View Post

It may be a good idea to redo it anyway, they may have tweaked the Audyssey setup, you may get "better" results. Even though I turned Room EQ off for mine, I think I'll still do it again, just to see what it comes up with and still have some settings as I sometimes turn Room EQ on to see what it sounds like with different sources.

excellent pointage.
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post #1488 of 19885
9/24/07 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by CDAHL View Post

No -- I still get "Login Failed". Mr woodward did you record before and after firmware versions? what version are you on?

tell me how to check and i will check it for you.
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post #1489 of 19885
9/24/07 at 7:44pm
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Originally Posted by kevinwoodward View Post

why do 8 settings, my guess is it just averages out
pick your seat and forget it.

anyone else have an opinion on that?

I did my 8 at first, but have since turned it off and tweeked it my self. Much better SQ now.
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post #1490 of 19885
9/24/07 at 7:46pm
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Originally Posted by VideoBoy58 View Post

I did my 8 at first, but have since turned it off and tweeked it my self. Much better SQ now.

has anyone noticed the receiver shows up on your my network places as...

network audio

haven't figured out how to see my music and so forth
can it do video?

anyone know how to paste a print screen in here?
thanks
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post #1491 of 19885
9/24/07 at 7:47pm
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Originally Posted by VideoBoy58 View Post

I did my 8 at first, but have since turned it off and tweeked it my self. Much better SQ now.

how did you tweak it
and what do you mean SQ?

thanks
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post #1492 of 19885
9/24/07 at 7:55pm
If there is a FW update they have not published it on their website yet!
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post #1493 of 19885
9/24/07 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by kevinwoodward View Post

has anyone noticed the receiver shows up on your my network places as...

network audio

haven't figured out how to see my music and so forth
can it do video?

anyone know how to paste a print screen in here?
thanks

I see "network audio" in my network places too. My router shows "Denon - AV Surround Receiver". What are you using as a server on the pc that has your music?

The 3808 will only play your music. No pictures or video's.
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post #1494 of 19885
9/24/07 at 8:10pm
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Originally Posted by kevinwoodward View Post

how did you tweak it
and what do you mean SQ?

thanks

From Parameters -> Audio -> Room EQ, set it to manual.
From Manual Setup -> Audio Setup -> Manual EQ -> Adjust CH, you can set your EQ settings.

SQ = Sound Quality
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post #1495 of 19885
9/24/07 at 8:12pm
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Originally Posted by 4i2fly View Post

If there is a FW update they have not published it on their website yet!

The rumor is a week or two till it's available.
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post #1496 of 19885
9/24/07 at 8:17pm
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Originally Posted by kevinwoodward View Post

anyone know how to paste a print screen in here?
thanks

Are you talking about in Windows? Select a window. Do Ctrl-Alt-PrtSC to copy. Paste as normal ( Ctrl-V ) to paste where you want it.
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post #1497 of 19885
9/24/07 at 8:24pm
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Originally Posted by VideoBoy58 View Post

I see "network audio" in my network places too. My router shows "Denon - AV Surround Receiver". What are you using as a server on the pc that has your music?

The 3808 will only play your music. No pictures or video's.

no server os.
just win xp, and got some media centers running in the house.
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post #1498 of 19885
9/24/07 at 8:25pm
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Originally Posted by VideoBoy58 View Post

Are you talking about in Windows? Select a window. Do Ctrl-Alt-PrtSC to copy. Paste as normal ( Ctrl-V ) to paste where you want it.

i know how to do it.
just not on this forum.
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post #1499 of 19885
9/24/07 at 8:26pm
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Originally Posted by kawzx7 View Post

I finally figured (from reading this forum) I needed to get my network audio up and working. Simply amazing! I just load my CD's into Windows Media Player at best quality, and I can listen to them throught the receiver as long as the computer is on! Sounds really good, too, even through the wireless router. This receiver was a great purchase.

I know, *duh*, this is old hat. But I am still happy!

can you provide more details on what you did.
i already have a boat load of mp3's on several computers...

thanks
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post #1500 of 19885
9/24/07 at 8:48pm
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Originally Posted by kevinwoodward View Post

can you provide more details on what you did.
i already have a boat load of mp3's on several computers...

thanks

Kevin. Try TwonkyMedia. They will give you a free 30 day trial. Very easy to setup and play. Trust me.

http://www.twonkyvision.com/
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