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post #16711 of 20190
I'm having a weird issue with a replacement 3808ci I got for a unit I had to send in for warranty repair. I get a high pitched whine coming from the receiver for the first few minutes it's on, maybe ten minutes tops, and then it goes away. It's not super loud and does eventually go away for whatever reason, but I'm worried it's the start of something failing on there. Anyone else have a similar experience? I'm going back and forth with calling Denon about it since I would rather not be without my receiver for another two months...
post #16712 of 20190
I recently picked up a PS3 Slim and have noticed that when the PS3 switches to 720P or 1080i I get some really bad static noise coming from my TV. I've also noticed that this only happens when connected to my 3808. Connecting straight to the TV (Samsung LN52A750) doesn't produce this sound. Has anyone had this problem? I've tried the following things to resolve the problem to no avail.

1) disabled all bitstreaming options and left only PCM 2.0
2) Disabled Audessy and Dynamic EQ
3) Disabled I/P scaling
4) used various HDMI cables that work fine with my Xbox 360/Media Center PC/Satellite
5) Switched to various HDMI ports
6) Moved the plug for the PS3 to the wall
7) Same as above for the reciever
8) Reset the PS3 back to it's default settings.

I'm not sure if the current PS3 update (3.15) caused this problem or the latest 3808 firmware version. Thanks in advance for any help you provide.
post #16713 of 20190
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Originally Posted by cablebandit3 View Post

wow tech has changed. Im also upgrading a 10 year old system. I will be keeping my klipsch reference speakers/sub.
Question is for the same money, do you choose the 3808 or the 3310....i dont need upscaling as I will be feeding most content from my PC
I have a tivo hd and am satisfied with its quality for late night talk shows (about all i tivo)
I do not have a BD player as of yet...just play them on my pc>dvi and spdif. (will be getting necessary stuff to do hdmi video/audio to receiver)

so 3310 or 3808?

I think from my little research (and believe me I am no expert) - I think the 3808 is a slightly better than 3310 however there are some more fancy decoders with 3310 but thank god I am no audiophile so I could not care much about those ! (and even if I was - I can't afford to given the finances )


If you can find 3808ci in stock - you can get pretty good deals - and VERY heavy discount.
post #16714 of 20190
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Originally Posted by fishairflow View Post

Thanks guys - heading out - will report back with the goodies

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

the 3808CI is a great deal for $700

a floor model is actually a very good deal as (assuming it's an authorized dealer) it will come with the full 2-year factory warranty good from the date of purchase. I have purchased open box before and it worked out great... just make sure the accessories are all there, especially the Audyssey Microphone, which will be model DM-A405 (note that this is different than the DM-A409 model that comes with current Denons, make sure they give you the right one!!)

Unfortunately the unit did not come with any remote/cable/manual but the guys gave me a Audyssey A11 (i think it is used for Marantz receivers) - an original new Denon remote 1068 and antenna and power cable.

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Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post

A floor model, if in good condition, is a good deal. It's covered by the warranty. Just look out for marks, scratches, etc.

Ok...so I just got it -looks like they gave me a brand new one but I will need your help determining it and I have taken pictures - will post it.

The reason why I think it is new is that it had clear thick plastic very neatly wrapped around the unit. Also - there is a sticker of "certified for windows vista" and "dlna" as well as "windows play for sure" stickers.

Do the new ones (out of box) have clear plastic wrapped around it?
There were no firmware updates available for the unit and it has a silver sticker on the back stating that if the sticker was removed - the warranty was void.

BTW - the unit was about 700 with tax
post #16715 of 20190
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Originally Posted by jean_charles View Post

I'm having a weird issue with a replacement 3808ci I got for a unit I had to send in for warranty repair. I get a high pitched whine coming from the receiver for the first few minutes it's on, maybe ten minutes tops, and then it goes away. It's not super loud and does eventually go away for whatever reason, but I'm worried it's the start of something failing on there. Anyone else have a similar experience? I'm going back and forth with calling Denon about it since I would rather not be without my receiver for another two months...

My old 3300 did something similar ... I never found the problem, but it went away if I removed the top of the case, so I suspect that a component (perhaps a cap,) a solder joint or perhaps the PCB itself was heating up and "squeaking."
post #16716 of 20190
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Originally Posted by fishairflow View Post

Unfortunately the unit did not come with any remote/cable/manual but the guys gave me a Audyssey A11 (i think it is used for Marantz receivers) - an original new Denon remote 1068 and antenna and power cable.

did you not read what I wrote?

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just make sure the accessories are all there, especially the Audyssey Microphone, which will be model DM-A405 (note that this is different than the DM-A409 model that comes with current Denons, make sure they give you the right one!!)

that mic may be worse than useless as it is not calibrated for your receiver. You need to get a DM-A405 model. If your dealer doesn't have it, check out ebay as you can pick one up for $25-30 or so.

But a nice deal nonetheless $700 is a great deal for this unit.
post #16717 of 20190
It's unfortunate that Denon did not offer a 2010 model that would be a clear upgrade from the 3808 at a somewhat comparable price. I think they may have lost a lot of business because of that decision.

fafner
post #16718 of 20190
hi, just unpacking my 3808 today and have a basic setup question...

am i better off plugging our comcast hd dvr into the system via hdmi into the 3808 or to use optical connection for the audio and hdmi for the video..if that mix is even possible. i don't think i'll likely be using the v.select functionality, or at least not very often when watching the dvr.
post #16719 of 20190
just use one HDMI cable for audio + video unless you experience problems
post #16720 of 20190
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

just use one HDMI cable for audio + video unless you experience problems


Out of curiosty...does that means very time he wants to watch something on his Telly he needs to turn on the whole system ?


DJoel
post #16721 of 20190
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

Out of curiosty...does that means very time he wants to watch something on his Telly he needs to turn on the whole system ?


DJoel

yes but i do that now anyway in order to get the best audio out of anything i'm watching...all audio runs through the receiver, now with the 3808 i'll have all video running through it as well. i ordered several new 1.3 hdmi cables from monoprice today to be able to do so.
post #16722 of 20190
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

just use one HDMI cable for audio + video unless you experience problems


The annoying HDCP issues was enough for me to change out my HDMI cables with component/optical. My patience was finally taxed enough that I switched it out.
post #16723 of 20190
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Originally Posted by cohenfive View Post

yes but i do that now anyway in order to get the best audio out of anything i'm watching...all audio runs through the receiver, now with the 3808 i'll have all video running through it as well. i ordered several new 1.3 hdmi cables from monoprice today to be able to do so.


What's your opinion on the Denon now that it's up and running?
post #16724 of 20190
I just turned on the Denon - thank go no HDCP issues.
Let me point out that I am just a newbie - and there are a lot of people qualified than me to give their first impressions. It sounds amazing - and certainly compared to my 2808ci I see a difference.
My rest of the set up stayed the same.

Cohenfive - I am curious about your setup - the cable box you are using - maybe you can have two outputs - one hdmi to carry everything over to the receiver and then to TV and second is the Component + optical to the TV and then use the universal remote to set two different activities.
I am certain someone has thought of this.
post #16725 of 20190
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Originally Posted by hansangb View Post

The annoying HDCP issues was enough for me to change out my HDMI cables with component/optical. My patience was finally taxed enough that I switched it out.

Out of curiosity - what is your source - cable or satellite (what company?)
post #16726 of 20190
Can anyone confirm for me that it is possible for the AVR-3808 to decode an AAC bitstream with 5.1 channels when this is within an MP4 or MKV container?

I've been trying to play an MP4 video file from my PVR which is connected to the AVR by HDMI. All I can get is 2 channels which the AVR detects as PCM rather than AAC. The PVR is set to pass through any AAC bitstreams and I've had it confirmed by other owners of the PVR that this does work however none of these people are using an AVR-3808.

I would appreciate any advice you can offer.

Cheers,
Peterco
post #16727 of 20190
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Originally Posted by fishairflow View Post

I just turned on the Denon - thank go no HDCP issues.
Let me point out that I am just a newbie - and there are a lot of people qualified than me to give their first impressions. It sounds amazing - and certainly compared to my 2808ci I see a difference.
My rest of the set up stayed the same.

Cohenfive - I am curious about your setup - the cable box you are using - maybe you can have two outputs - one hdmi to carry everything over to the receiver and then to TV and second is the Component + optical to the TV and then use the universal remote to set two different activities.
I am certain someone has thought of this.

my setup is going to be the following, and if the experts here advise differently let me know....it is going to happen over the course of the following week as i have to buy some things (more hdmi cables ordered from monoprice already, powerline still needs to be found)...

hd/dvr/cable box from comcast--i guess i'll try using one 1.3 hdmi cable into the 3808.

hd dvd player--again, one hdmi cable into the 3808...i know, bad choice of format!!

old sony high end cd player--analog inputs into 3808

yet to be purchased internet/bluray player--again, one hdmi into the 3808.

as i said above, i'm planning on getting powerline to get our network to this room, easier/cheaper than a hard wire install. when i do this i will be plugging ethernet into both the 3808 and the bluray player.

the above should give me everything i want in terms of media (local from my pc as well as online content), disks and cable.

does this sound sensible??
post #16728 of 20190
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Originally Posted by cohenfive View Post

my setup is going to be the following, and if the experts here advise differently let me know....it is going to happen over the course of the following week as i have to buy some things (more hdmi cables ordered from monoprice already, powerline still needs to be found)...

hd/dvr/cable box from comcast--i guess i'll try using one 1.3 hdmi cable into the 3808.

hd dvd player--again, one hdmi cable into the 3808...i know, bad choice of format!!

old sony high end cd player--analog inputs into 3808

yet to be purchased internet/bluray player--again, one hdmi into the 3808.

as i said above, i'm planning on getting powerline to get our network to this room, easier/cheaper than a hard wire install. when i do this i will be plugging ethernet into both the 3808 and the bluray player.

the above should give me everything i want in terms of media (local from my pc as well as online content), disks and cable.

does this sound sensible??

That should work just fine. After you (hopefully) determine that you have no HDMI handshake issues, you might add a component hookup from your cable box to the DENON. Name that source whatever you want, eg CABC1, then you can listen to music and have TV as a video background. Works great.
post #16729 of 20190
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Originally Posted by fishairflow View Post

Out of curiosity - what is your source - cable or satellite (what company?)


Time Warner Cable in New York Metro area. The older SA 8300 and SA 8300HDC DVRs all had the issue. I would say once a week, once every two weeks?

It doesn't sound like much, but it gets annoying after a while. With component and optical, *ZERO* problems. It's not like I'm going to get a better picture with HDMI so it was a win win for me. A few extra cables was worth the price of admission.
post #16730 of 20190
Ok somebody has got to help me. I have a question and a problem.

I bought a 3808 going on two years ago now and it has worked flawlessly since installation. Today I installed a very simple device: Apple Airport Express in an effort to stream iTunes to my lower level HT system.

Installation was effortless network is up and running. Started streaming music and thought, this sounds like chit no presence. Then it dawned on me - No Bass. Something is going on, My SW is not working - even in test mode I get no signal from the SW.

I have checked all connections, If I remove the cable from the receiver and touch the lead it get that familiar ground hum. I am at wits in over this - I could not have busted or shorted anything (i don't think) what do the SME's here think?

My question. Airport express is fundamentally a wireless access point. if it is connected to my wireless network shouldn't I be able to use its ethernet port to access the internet on my reciever?

Please get back to me

Thank you in advance

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB...press-AirTunes
post #16731 of 20190
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Originally Posted by CDP1911 View Post

Ok somebody has got to help me. I have a question and a problem.

I bought a 3808 going on two years ago now and it has worked flawlessly since installation. Today I installed a very simple device: Apple Airport Express in an effort to stream iTunes to my lower level HT system.

Installation was effortless network is up and running. Started streaming music and thought, this sounds like chit no presence. Then it dawned on me - No Bass. Something is going on, My SW is not working - even in test mode I get no signal from the SW.

I have checked all connections, If I remove the cable from the receiver and touch the lead it get that familiar ground hum. I am at wits in over this - I could not have busted or shorted anything (i don't think) what do the SME's here think?

My question. Airport express is fundamentally a wireless access point. if it is connected to my wireless network shouldn't I be able to use its ethernet port to access the internet on my reciever?

Please get back to me

Thank you in advance

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB...press-AirTunes

I can't help with the lack of bass, but the AE can be used as for wireless access to your 3808. I use mine for just that purpose, and have used it with my BR player HD-DVD Player, and XBOX 360.

That said, there are several ways to configure an AE....perhaps the ENET port is not active in all configurations.

Brian
post #16732 of 20190
"I can't help with the lack of bass, but the AE can be used as for wireless access to your 3808. I use mine for just that purpose, and have used it with my BR player HD-DVD Player, and XBOX 360.

That said, there are several ways to configure an AE....perhaps the ENET port is not active in all configurations.

Brian"

Thanks Brian,

I will give it a shot. I am still trying to figure out what button I mistakenly pressed or what gremlin got into my system - just ran the test tones again and still no sub - And I am not getting any rear channel output when looking at a movie (5.1)

This is really frustrating
post #16733 of 20190
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Originally Posted by fishairflow View Post

Cohenfive - I am curious about your setup - the cable box you are using - maybe you can have two outputs - one hdmi to carry everything over to the receiver and then to TV and second is the Component + optical to the TV and then use the universal remote to set two different activities.
I am certain someone has thought of this.

This is what we do. My wife likes to use the TV speakers so I have his and hers activities. Mine use the AVR for audio, hers use the TV.
post #16734 of 20190
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Originally Posted by cohenfive View Post

my setup is going to be the following, and if the experts here advise differently let me know....it is going to happen over the course of the following week as i have to buy some things (more hdmi cables ordered from monoprice already, powerline still needs to be found)...

hd/dvr/cable box from comcast--i guess i'll try using one 1.3 hdmi cable into the 3808.

hd dvd player--again, one hdmi cable into the 3808...i know, bad choice of format!!

old sony high end cd player--analog inputs into 3808

yet to be purchased internet/bluray player--again, one hdmi into the 3808.

as i said above, i'm planning on getting powerline to get our network to this room, easier/cheaper than a hard wire install. when i do this i will be plugging ethernet into both the 3808 and the bluray player.

the above should give me everything i want in terms of media (local from my pc as well as online content), disks and cable.

does this sound sensible??

Sounds sensible - your audio (cd's music etc) will be coming through your old sony cd player and not the DVD player correct?
Also - don't worry - I currently have comcast and with my fingers crossed I have to say I haven't had any issues with HDMI handshakes
post #16735 of 20190
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Originally Posted by grantb3 View Post

This is what we do. My wife likes to use the TV speakers so I have his and hers activities. Mine use the AVR for audio, hers use the TV.

How did you teach the remote to switch the audio inputs in the TV and turn off the speakers in TV?
post #16736 of 20190
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Originally Posted by fishairflow View Post

Sounds sensible - your audio (cd's music etc) will be coming through your old sony cd player and not the DVD player correct?
Also - don't worry - I currently have comcast and with my fingers crossed I have to say I haven't had any issues with HDMI handshakes

yes, audio will come through the old sony, except obviously for audio that i stream or play from a usb flash drive or hdd....
post #16737 of 20190
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Originally Posted by cohenfive View Post

yes, audio will come through the old sony, except obviously for audio that i stream or play from a usb flash drive or hdd....

Just curious why you are using the analog input for the audio from the old Sony? If it has optical or even coax digital outputs, I would use one of those for the audio instead of the analog.
post #16738 of 20190
Brian,

got the networking piece working great - Thanks
post #16739 of 20190
Hello all,

I have searched and did not see this mentioned in discussions concerning streaming music to the 3808.

I want to know if anyone is using the Buffalo Linkstation Live LS-CHL to stream FLAC files to the 3808 (or similar denon model).

My current setup is Asset UPnP on a laptop with an external drive, streaming to the 3808. I like that the receiver sees the flac files as PCM and even recognizes HDCD format.

Does anyone know if the Buffalo has the same ability to stream FLAC as Asset UPnP?

Thanks.
post #16740 of 20190
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Originally Posted by hansangb View Post

The annoying HDCP issues was enough for me to change out my HDMI cables with component/optical. My patience was finally taxed enough that I switched it out.

One thing to keep in mind about the optical cable, is the limited bit rate.

Optical will not pass SACD or Dolby/DTS HD formats.



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It's essentially a question of bitrate capability. DTS HD requires a greater bitrate capability than SPDIF (the standard for optical or digital coax interconnects) can handle. HDMI can handle the full DTS HD Master signal, while optical (or digital coaxial) can't.

If you use an optical connection and select a DTS HD or Dolby TrueHD audio track on a Blu-ray disk you will actually get the DTS core (5.1) or Dolby Digital AC-3 (5.1) track instead.

See the article at the link. It provides an excellent overview of how to get (and not get) HD audio.

In general an HDMI connection ((or multi-channel analog) is essential for HD audio.


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