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post #18061 of 19878
10/11/10 at 2:23pm
Using my 3808a with two external amps. Rotel RB-1070 for the main speakers and Rotel RMB-1075 for center and 4 surrounds.

No problems at all. Sound is awsome more than with the internal amps of the avr.

Although i ordered a Marantz AV7005 preamp because using the AVR with amp section unused is imho waste of components
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post #18062 of 19878
10/11/10 at 5:50pm
So to confirm, there are no "level" adjustments for the preouts, nor is there any setting needed in the user menu?

Thx
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post #18063 of 19878
10/11/10 at 11:58pm
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So to confirm, there are no "level" adjustments for the preouts,

.... you mean other than the channel level trims?

I assume you've checked the obvious? (Making sure you're hooked upto the pre-outs and not the inputs? ... It could happen ... )
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post #18064 of 19878
10/12/10 at 9:23am
Yup, checked the obvious. I'm thinking the amp is down, will be taking it in to a repair center to double check but thought I'd see if there was something I was forgetting on the 3808 ...
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post #18065 of 19878
10/13/10 at 1:00pm
Would anyone care to recommend a universal remote for the 3808? Whats worked good (and not). Looks like Harmony has been addressed many times here. Any particular model better than the other for the Denons?

I've spent the better part of a month setting up to where I'm happy, and now its time to address the main source of my graying hairs.
Using the 3808 main remote stresses me before I can relax to watch a movie :-)
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post #18066 of 19878
10/13/10 at 2:01pm
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Originally Posted by ExToker View Post

Would anyone care to recommend a universal remote for the 3808? Whats worked good (and not). Looks like Harmony has been addressed many times here. Any particular model better than the other for the Denons?

I've spent the better part of a month setting up to where I'm happy, and now its time to address the main source of my graying hairs.
Using the 3808 main remote stresses me before I can relax to watch a movie :-)

Love my harmony (880). One or the other shouldn't work better specifically with the 3808, but would be more a choice of whether you want fixed physical buttons for optional menus (Harmony 880) or touch screen with better ergonomics (but some unique issues; Harmony One) or want to shell out for the top of the line model with the big touch screen. Thanks to folks like batpig we've got all the command menu goodness we can stand. I'd research the different models if I were you. Any will work as well as any other broadly speaking.
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post #18067 of 19878
10/13/10 at 2:33pm
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Originally Posted by nlsteele View Post

Love my harmony (880). One or the other shouldn't work better specifically with the 3808, but would be more a choice of whether you want fixed physical buttons for optional menus (Harmony 880) or touch screen with better ergonomics (but some unique issues; Harmony One) or want to shell out for the top of the line model with the big touch screen. Thanks to folks like batpig we've got all the command menu goodness we can stand. I'd research the different models if I were you. Any will work as well as any other broadly speaking.

I also love the Harmony. I have the 890. It has RF & IR. I have the Denon, Motorola DVR, PS3, Sony DVD, Sony CD Jukebox all in a cabinet, and everything works great. I mention this because others in the house were not great about pointing the remote in the right direction for the full sequence of events, and sometimes things would get out of wack. Right now, the only device I have using IR, is the TV, and its just a natural tendency to point the remote at that. -but its really only to power it on and off.
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post #18068 of 19878
10/13/10 at 2:55pm
Good to know guys. Thanks.
My last experience with Harmony was the 670 and I was constantly checking the sunday ads for 30 pack aaa batteries on sale Also coudnt get used to the soft buttons.

I figured Harmony should be the way to go again though, considering Batpigs extensive (and generous) documented help.
I thought the 880 might be the best fit for me (hard buttons/charging cradle) since I simply want to 'make everything go', and the cabinet is wired with IR relays.

2 for 2 is a pretty strong start in the recs.
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post #18069 of 19878
10/13/10 at 3:58pm
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Good to know guys. Thanks.
My last experience with Harmony was the 670 and I was constantly checking the sunday ads for 30 pack aaa batteries on sale Also coudnt get used to the soft buttons.

I figured Harmony should be the way to go again though, considering Batpigs extensive (and generous) documented help.
I thought the 880 might be the best fit for me (hard buttons/charging cradle) since I simply want to 'make everything go', and the cabinet is wired with IR relays.

2 for 2 is a pretty strong start in the recs.

I have had the 880. It is still running but not used and upgraded to the Harmony 1 a year ago. Highly recommended.

Ta

Dono
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post #18070 of 19878
10/13/10 at 4:54pm
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I also love the Harmony. I have the 890. It has RF & IR. I have the Denon, Motorola DVR, PS3, Sony DVD, Sony CD Jukebox all in a cabinet, and everything works great. I mention this because others in the house were not great about pointing the remote in the right direction for the full sequence of events, and sometimes things would get out of wack. Right now, the only device I have using IR, is the TV, and its just a natural tendency to point the remote at that. -but its really only to power it on and off.

I love my Harmony One, minus the finickey touch screen. Had it since it was first released and worked extremely well with my 3808, and other components.
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post #18071 of 19878
10/13/10 at 5:39pm
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I love my Harmony One, minus the finickey touch screen. Had it since it was first released and worked extremely well with my 3808, and other components.

yngdiego,

What do you mean by 'finicky' touch screen?
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post #18072 of 19878
10/13/10 at 8:08pm
I have 880 my self too, works ok, but then I prefer orig remote( dislike) to do detailed stuff.

Btw any one has a software iPad or iPhone remote for 3808ci?
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post #18073 of 19878
10/14/10 at 8:34am
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I have 880 my self too, works ok, but then I prefer orig remote( dislike) to do detailed stuff.

Btw any one has a software iPad or iPhone remote for 3808ci?

I just got this one.. "DenOnOff"
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/denon...352913335?mt=8

It works fairly well, but I use it for Zone2 On/Off and source selection.

This one "irule" looks like it will do about as much as you want it, but will take some time to configure.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/irule/id352230010?mt=8
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post #18074 of 19878
10/14/10 at 12:46pm
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Clearly ... but I was just seeing if Duffinator had tried it.

I did and it worked.
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post #18075 of 19878
10/14/10 at 6:00pm
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Originally Posted by ExToker View Post

Would anyone care to recommend a universal remote for the 3808? Whats worked good (and not). Looks like Harmony has been addressed many times here. Any particular model better than the other for the Denons?

I've spent the better part of a month setting up to where I'm happy, and now its time to address the main source of my graying hairs.
Using the 3808 main remote stresses me before I can relax to watch a movie :-)

Harmony is brain dead simple to program. However, the price for that simplicity is the lack of flexibility.

I lover my URC MX900/MRF350 combo.

FYI, I have used used the 890 (hated the button layout and design)
I purchased Harmony one (the one that comes with the RF) for my mother.
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post #18076 of 19878
10/14/10 at 6:02pm
Overall the Harmony One is way better than the 880. The only thing that isn't great is the screen. I think the buttons around the screen on the 880 is better because you don't accidentally swipe them. The rest of the button layout is so much better on the One.

I am not a big fan of the Harmony software though. Having to use a wizard for everything is tedious.
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post #18077 of 19878
10/14/10 at 7:23pm
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Overall the Harmony One is way better than the 880. The only thing that isn't great is the screen. I think the buttons around the screen on the 880 is better because you don't accidentally swipe them. The rest of the button layout is so much better on the One.

I am not a big fan of the Harmony software though. Having to use a wizard for everything is tedious.

You hit my thoughts rec head. I prefer the top half buttons of the 880 and the bottom half of the One.
I'm now assuming that yngdiegos statement about the finicky screen (of the One) is in regards to accidently swiping the touchscreen?
I actually like the wizard for programming. Keeps it 'brain dead simple' as mentioned. That has my name written all over it
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post #18078 of 19878
10/15/10 at 11:42am
Just got the report back from Denon Super Repair Center. The mainboard is dead and they want $700 to fix it.

I am now in the market for a new receiver, and it will not be a Denon. My current receiver (my backup) is very old and still running strong, sans HDMI.

The quality of this Denon makes me desire to stay away from them from now on. Once bitten, twice shy as they say.

Time to read the forums for a new receiver.
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post #18079 of 19878
10/15/10 at 11:50am
One bad Denon is a pretty small sample to condemn all of them. Here is another sample. I have four Denons between two residences and have probably had about ten through the years. Not one problem.
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post #18080 of 19878
10/15/10 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

One bad Denon is a pretty small sample to condemn all of them. Here is another sample. I have four Denons between two residences and have probably had about ten through the years. Not one problem.

Trade you my broken one for your working one then?


I am happy that they are good for you, I really am. I do not want anyone else to be told they should spend $700 to fix their not very old receiver. I am left holding the bag, though. Saying "eh, so I got a bad one, who cares about the thousand dollars I spent on this two years ago" is not something I will easily do. It is not like I spent $200 and can easily throw it away as disposable.

If I had used Denon for a long time and this was an anomoly, I would accept it and maybe buy another Denon, but as it is Denon has a 100% failure rate after 2 years for me.
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post #18081 of 19878
10/15/10 at 12:53pm
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Trade you my broken one for your working one then?

Not a chance. Didn't mean for it to sound harsh (if it did) and I am sorry it broke out of warranty. Or at all. Just saying it's tough to make a buying decision based on one event. Stuff happens. I've also bought Ford/Lincoln/Mercury for many years. The break and I keep buying them.
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post #18082 of 19878
10/15/10 at 1:21pm
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Not a chance. Didn't mean for it to sound harsh (if it did) and I am sorry it broke out of warranty. Or at all. Just saying it's tough to make a buying decision based on one event. Stuff happens. I've also bought Ford/Lincoln/Mercury for many years. The break and I keep buying them.

Yeah...I know. It is all me right now, just found out about it...a bit sore right now.




But, being an optimist, I was holding out a glimmer of hope you were actually an uber rich guy who would simply toss me a Denon.
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post #18083 of 19878
10/15/10 at 1:38pm
I would agree the Harmony One is tops but it's not RF cabable and that's a where the 890 is my choice. With the ability to have light control and set it up to use in other rooms and systems, it's a very good product. Proprietary batteries last about two or three years but other than the 'tilt' feature going out if you drop it too many times, it's held up to major abuse over about a four or five yr period. If you haven't used RF remotes you might be surprised how well they work. No more pointing at components IR windows.
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post #18084 of 19878
10/15/10 at 1:44pm
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But, being an optimist, I was holding out a glimmer of hope you were actually an uber rich guy who would simply toss me a Denon.

Only feel that way at the moment (check Google stock today)

If you're thinking Onkyo check their threads for complaints - there are a few...
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post #18085 of 19878
10/15/10 at 1:53pm
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Only feel that way at the moment (check Google stock today)

If you're thinking Onkyo check their threads for complaints - there are a few...

I already own a gas furnace, so no need to buy another whole house heating source.

Leaning towards the new Yamaha 667, due to my funding being much lower now than 2 years ago.

EDIT: I purchased a Pioneer VSX-1120-k, got a GREAT deal on it.
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post #18086 of 19878
10/23/10 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by SilentHylian82 View Post

Hey guys, I tried searching the threads for this problem, but it was to no avail. Since setting up my receiver, I have been able to view all menus, volume controls and the DENON picture wallpaper when nothing was turned on via the HDMI input of my TV.

Well, I haven't changed any settings at all and now am unable to view any text or controls in the GUI, yet I am still able to receive a video signal when a component, say my PS3, is selected and turned on via HDMI. When nothing is turned on, instead of the DENON wallpaper, I now get a gray screen despite having "Picture" selected in the "Wall Paper" menu under the GUI settings. I have tried changing the wallpaper settings via the front display to black or blue, but the wall paper remains gray.

I also turned off the Direct Mode as the troubleshooting guide states the Pure Direct mode disables the GUI screen, but that was unsuccessful as well. (Speaking of which, is Direct Mode the same thing as Pure Direct? I have never seen "Pure Direct" as a selectable option under the GUI.)

Any ideas?

What is the Denon Wallpaper? I have seen that in a few threads, and all I get is a blank screen when I try it.
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post #18087 of 19878
10/23/10 at 1:11pm
Denon broke that a few firmware updates back and I seriously doubt they are coming out with any future firmware updates.. I emailed them a while back but I never received a reply...

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What is the Denon Wallpaper? I have seen that in a few threads, and all I get is a blank screen when I try it.
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post #18088 of 19878
10/23/10 at 8:56pm
One more harmony remote question for you guys. Looks like the One is past my budget and the 880 will do everything I need it to do.

Thinking tonight that I wish Denon would hire Oppo to design their remote. Nice big, fat backlit buttons.

Anyway, the question.
When you chose 'watch movie' or 'listen to music', are the appropriate sound presets loaded also?
I listen exclusively to 2 channel stereo (music) and one setting for 5.1 movies.
Just want to make sure I still wont have to toggle back and forth, with the denon remotes, everytime I switch with the Harmony.

My mission is to have to try and remember which drawer the Denon remotes are in, should I happen to need them

Thanks for all your input on this gang. Its helped me a lot.
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post #18089 of 19878
10/23/10 at 9:48pm
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Originally Posted by 007james View Post

Denon broke that a few firmware updates back and I seriously doubt they are coming out with any future firmware updates.. I emailed them a while back but I never received a reply...

I have never had the wallpaper, nor updated firmware.

My unit was new as of early 2009.
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post #18090 of 19878
10/23/10 at 9:52pm
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Originally Posted by ExToker View Post

Would anyone care to recommend a universal remote for the 3808? Whats worked good (and not). Looks like Harmony has been addressed many times here. Any particular model better than the other for the Denons?

I've spent the better part of a month setting up to where I'm happy, and now its time to address the main source of my graying hairs.
Using the 3808 main remote stresses me before I can relax to watch a movie :-)

The Harmony One is a great choice. If you have never used an "activity remote" you will love it. I was a control freak with my older,all button, univeral remotes....but I am loving the One now. Catch it on sale and never look back!!
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