The "Official" Denon AVR-3808CI Thread - Page 651

look, it's much simpler than you are making it:

you can't delete a source that is in use. The sources you are trying to delete (e.g. "CD") are currently selected (in use) for zone 2 and/or 3. So SELECT A DIFFERENT SOURCE (one that you do NOT want to delete) for zone 2/3 and then you can delete the previously selected source, since it will no longer be in use.

the manual has very clear instructions for selecting zone 2/3 source.

I understand what I have to do, I just don't understand how to do it.

I've read the manual, I quoted it in my post. And if the manual was easily understood I wouldn't be here and you wouldn't have written a Denon to English translation guide.

Not a happy camper right now. After 2+ years with absolutely no issues, I noticed my front right speaker cutting in and out tonight. Did the necessary checks to eliminate speaker or cable issues (same right speaker and cable work fine out of the left channel, same problem though when I connect the other speaker/cable to the right channel). I powered off/reset the receiver, unplugged it, etc...when I powered back up I got sound out of the right front for about 30 seconds, then it cut out again.

Any ideas?? Blown channel not worth fixing? I don't know what else to try/do at this point...

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As you're out of the warranty period, you could pop the top of the unit and check for a blown fuse, otherwise it would seem that it will need some repair work done. Check Denon's website to see if there are any in your local area.

Thx, nobody near CO so I'd prob have to ship it to NJ and endure the long wait if I go that route (in which case I'd be w/o sound at all since my KRP is solely display panel, no TV speakers). I don't know what's going on with it. Since my initial post, right channel sound has been intermittent, roughly 50/50...if I cuts out, resetting the AVR seems to bring it back, for awhile anyway. Irritating for a near $2k receiver to be doing this less than 3 years in...I've had Denon, Yamaha, Onkyo over the past 15-20 years...yet the receiver that gave me the least amount of problems was a cheap Sony back in my college days.

Hi
I have been happy with the AVR-3808 for four years
Now a local dealer has a good deal on the Pioneer SC-37
Do you think this would be a worthy upgrade or should I keep the Denon?
I will be using it for movies only so I am mostly interested in clearer and more dynamic sound
Thanks
Jakob

Keep the Denon and Audyssey. Especially for movies.

AFIK there's still an authorized repair center in Denver. I had an HDMI connector issue a couple of years ago which they fixed for me after they went to bat and got Denon to honor the board replacement under warranty. Their name seems to have changed, but they're still listed on Denon's site.

Tele-Vue Service
947 Federal Boulevard
Denver, CO 80204-3214 United States
Tel.: (303) 623-3330 Fax: (303) 623-6309

Unless Pioneer has something comparable to Audyssey's Dynamic EQ, then I wouldn't change.

If you are itchin' to spend some money, why not by a 4311 and sell the 3808? The 4311 has Audyssey xt32 which can EQ two subs.

Better late than never...I need help with playing my I-tunes library from my upstairs Dell PC via wifi thru my downstairs 3808. Is there a preferred method to do so? I understand that my I-tunes library will have to be "open" to do so.

I'm not an expert on this, but I'll at least try to respond...

The Denon3808 is a DLNA compliant DMP (digital media player). As such, it should be capable of finding and streaming music from any DLNA compliant DMS (digital media server) on the network. So your question isn't really Denon specific. You need to stream music from your music library to a DMP. A Sony PS3 is also a DMP. Many TVs and blu-ray players (Oppo) can stream music from digital media servers.

So the real question is how do you access your iTunes library from a DMP. I believe what you need is a bridge that will expose your iTunes library on the network as uPnP compliant server so the Denon can find it and stream from it. Perhaps something like this: http://www.allegrosoft.com/ams.html. I'm sure there are many products like that available.

On the other hand, if you're asking for streaming programs that work well with the Denon, I use PS3 Media Server that's available as freeware. It's free, stable, and streams or transcodes FLACs and other file-types with great ease. It sounds as though you've already got the Denon linked through wifi, is that accurate?

my suggestion: since your music is already in iTunes, just add an Apple TV or Airport Express and stream the audio using AirPlay (i.e. do NOT use the built-in DLNA on the 3808). As implied by the two posts above, it's not straightforward to expose your iTunes library through standard DLNA and, furthermore, the 3808's built-in DLNA interface is pretty shoddy.

this is especially true if you have an iPhone and/or iPad with which to control the AirPlay (using the "Remote" app). It will be a far more painless and seamless setup using AirPlay and keeping everything in the "apple ecosystem".

I have owned my denon 3808 for a few years now. I recently jumped on the deal that Amazon had on the Denon 3312. The 3312 has some nice features over the 3808 such as airplay, more hdmi inputs, pandora support, etc.

Would you consider this more of an upgrade, downgrade, or lateral move on going from the 3808 to the 3312? I am just looking for some feedback as i have been out of touch with audio receivers for a few years.

The receiver will be powering the following:

- Paradigm Studio 100 v3 fronts
- Paradigm Studio cc-570 center v3
- Paradigm Studio adp-470 surrounds v3
- Paradigm Reference Servo 15 v2

you will be the best judge after you hook it up and listen for yourself. that said, "on paper"... it's an upgrade in terms of features, probably a lateral move in terms of audio quality (still the same MultEQ XT room correction), and a downgrade in build quality and amp "guts".

I have not hooked it up yet but the amazon deal was too good to pass up. I do like the new features that the 3312 offers. I have the old firmware on my 3808 so if i am not mistaken the MultiEQ will be an improvement. I did notice that the 3312 weighs a lot less then the 3808.

For the price i paid on the 3312 and the price i can sell the 3808 at it was a cheap upgrade in terms of cost. I will sell the 3312 in a year or two to upgrade when another great deal comes along.

Nah ... the version of MultEQ XT on the 3808CI is the same version on the 3312CI. The 3312CI has the Dyn EQ and Dyn Vol features pre-installed that comes with the 3808CI Firmware upgrade package ($100).

I'm contemplating selling my factory refurbed 3808ci. What is a good price for a unit in good shape with all pieces and manuals except the box. I never paid the $100 for the firmware upgrade?

Checking eBay will generally give you a good idea ... likely between $400-$600.

JD

Is it worth getting the 100 upgrade for a small HT in a 14 by 13 spare room?
lots of low level listening at night or with headphones...

thanks.

Yes. Especially if you're interested in getting some improvement to the audio fidelity as that's exactly when Audyssey Dyn EQ provides the most benefit is at lower listening levels.

Have Denon 3808 receiver.Only ext. in works.Just bought samsung bd player with analog outs.Front L & R speakers dont seem to have much sound as I think they should.Is there something I am doing wrong.;;;;;;This only happens when watching movies;Pandora & computer sound fine.End credits should have more from mains .
Edited by donuts5 - 7/9/12 at 8:09pm

Your post is a bit confusing. Are you saying (1) that only the EXT IN inputs on the 3808CI work at all (ie. HDMI, coax digital, optical, analog don't work), or (2) that only the EXT IN inputs can be selected, or (3) that the Samsung BDP only has multi channel analog outputs and can only be connected via the EXT IN inputs? If (1) try resetting the microprocessor (p. 58) or if (2) change INPUT MODE to "AUTO."

sorry about the confusion.this is the same receiver that strangely enough you advised me to get a refund for about a year ago.i kept it because the ebay dealer let me have it for free!!!!!.NOTHING but ext.in works;but its much better than my denon 1803 for power.all that said ,when i play a movie (master audio or true hd) hardly any sound comes from mains .have samsung bd-c5800 w/7.1 analog outs.is this the normal sound from the new codecs or what?

you might want to buy a test disc (if you don't have one already) and carefully calibrate the speaker levels. When you use the EXT IN multichannel inputs it bypasses all of the internal processing in the receiver, so effectively it's just an amplifier. I do think the speaker levels are maintained but I'm not exactly sure.

the thing is, the player will also have built-in sound controls for the multich analog outputs, since it has to act as the processor.

so the bottom line is that when using the EXT IN inputs the receiver isn't really doing much, just amplifying, so you probably have to do more digging to figure out the problem.

thanks,i'll try to find one.just curious,will the regular audio outs on a bd player put out the same signal as right & left front of analog outs?

only on a stereo track, because standard analog outs will be a stereo downmix, whereas the multich analog outputs will have discrete info on each channel.

I may have a chance to purchase a 3808CI from a friend.


1. Now if the feature pack upgrade hasn't been done I can still purchase this from Denon for $100, correct?

2. If I don't buy the FPU I can still do firmware updates up to ver 2.04 but I wont ever get Dynamic Vol, Dynamic EQ and Rhapsody streaming. Is this right?

1. Yup --> http://usa.denon.com/US/Support/Pages/upgrade.aspx
2. Yup

It's been awhile since I visited this thread. I've had my 3808ci for almost 5 years, pretty much trouble-free. I'm on Firmware Main 2.04 Sub 1.11. I *think* there have been firmware updates since then. I believe the last update I made was to install the feature pack upgrade a few years ago. I don't necessarily have any problems, but any reason I should do an update, assuming i don't have the most recent version?

I don't use the Net Radio or streaming functions much anymore since it always seemed kind of slow and kludgy, and I have other better options, but otherwise I have no complaints, and it's still the centerpiece of my a-v system.

Or, is it a case of "If it ain't broke..."