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post #19741 of 19878
2/8/13 at 10:47am
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post #19742 of 19878
2/8/13 at 2:15pm
so you use the 3808 for 4-5 years and then think you can return it because it's semi-outdated?rolleyes.gif
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post #19743 of 19878
2/8/13 at 2:56pm
yeah, that falls into the category of "abusing their good graces". The policy is there to protect the consumer, and you are taking advantage of the letter of the law by violating the spirit of the law....
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post #19744 of 19878
2/8/13 at 3:05pm
Agreed. Rick, I urge you to reconsider returning it to Costco. As batpig noted, you would be within the letter of the policy but certainly not within the spirit of it.

If your 3808 is OK, keep it and be happy (I've had mine for years and recently purchased the upgrade and still enjoy this AVR immensely). Please don't abuse the policy because these returns drives up their costs which in turns drives up the costs to their members. And if this happens too much they will revise their overall return policy. I've known people who returned their flat panel TVs a whole year later only to replace them with bigger ones the next year. Eventually Costco revised their TV return policy to 90 days.

Please use it only when you need it.
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post #19745 of 19878
2/8/13 at 4:58pm
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post #19746 of 19878
2/8/13 at 10:31pm
New Member here, Hello Everyone.

I got a used 3808 off ebay for $400 last year, didn't use it much until now ( didn't have a good set of speakers). Anyway, now that I got a set of B&W DM603 and I want to sing karaoke, can't connect the mixer and equalizer to the receiver. Is there a way to do so? I think there would be because the receiver is so advance, it would have that option.

Thanks for the reponse.
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post #19747 of 19878
2/9/13 at 12:37am
Should be no different than connecting any other analog device to the AVR, simply connect the RCA red/white analog cable from the OUT jacks on the Karoake machine to any of the IN jacks on the AVR.
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post #19748 of 19878
2/9/13 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by BodegaBay View Post

Agreed. Rick, I urge you to reconsider returning it to Costco. As batpig noted, you would be within the letter of the policy but certainly not within the spirit of it.

If your 3808 is OK, keep it and be happy (I've had mine for years and recently purchased the upgrade and still enjoy this AVR immensely). Please don't abuse the policy because these returns drives up their costs which in turns drives up the costs to their members. And if this happens too much they will revise their overall return policy. I've known people who returned their flat panel TVs a whole year later only to replace them with bigger ones the next year. Eventually Costco revised their TV return policy to 90 days.

Please use it only when you need it.
I was going to say the same thing; glad you guys got there first. However, it's curious that good ol' Rick deleted all of his previous posts regarding the little scam he was going to run on Costco. Someone's covering their tracks, eh?
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post #19749 of 19878
2/9/13 at 4:33pm
Wow..Costco lets you return electronics after that much time has elapsed? To me, that's a stupid policy. 90 days, I can see that. Although 30 days to me seems plenty. Of course it still doesn't excuse anyone from returning something after so much time has past.

Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Jerry tried to return the sport coat.
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post #19750 of 19878
2/9/13 at 11:08pm
It was a benefit to members, conceived as essentially a "lifetime satisfaction" policy. But the problem is people like Rick abuse this by treating it as a lifetime return policy, and take advantage of electronics depreciation. For example, not so long ago a 50" plasma may have been $3k. The 2-3 years later you could return it and upgrade to a better 50" plasma that cost only $2k. And so on. This kind of abuse caused Costco to change its policy eventually.
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post #19751 of 19878
2/10/13 at 10:40am
Home Depot had to the same thing, too many returns for no 'real' reason.

I will say that I did take advantage of the Costco policy with a bad Harmony remote, it was just outside the 1 year manf. warranty. Logitech was going to charge me for a repair or replacement, I asked at the Costco counter about the possibility of returning it as it was no longer functioning; they smiled and said they would happily take it back and send it back to Logitech in exchange for another free of charge.

I guess along with their buying power, Costco might have some 'pull' with their suppliers which allows them to offer this kind of warranty as well.
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post #19752 of 19878
2/10/13 at 12:51pm
Also keep in mind that many credit card providers will double the warranty up to 1 year (Amex will for sure and some MC/Visa will as well).
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post #19753 of 19878
2/10/13 at 4:59pm
Good point, I never think about that extra warranty.
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post #19754 of 19878
2/11/13 at 7:09am
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I will say that I did take advantage of the Costco policy with a bad Harmony remote, it was just outside the 1 year manf. warranty. Logitech was going to charge me for a repair or replacement, I asked at the Costco counter about the possibility of returning it as it was no longer functioning; they smiled and said they would happily take it back and send it back to Logitech in exchange for another free of charge.

this example is a perfectly legitimate application of the policy -- protecting the consumer from a product that goes bad just outside the warranty period as a special benefit to members. That kind of situation is exactly what the policy was intended for and is fully within the spirit of the rule.
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post #19755 of 19878
2/11/13 at 7:51am
...NOT happily using a piece of hardware for 5 years and returning it for non-depreciated value simply because it is perceived as obsolete by the owner (it isn't).
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post #19756 of 19878
2/11/13 at 8:46am
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yeah, that falls into the category of "abusing their good graces". The policy is there to protect the consumer, and you are taking advantage of the letter of the law by violating the spirit of the law....
yeah kind of like posting on your employer's time.
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post #19757 of 19878
2/11/13 at 9:42am
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yeah kind of like posting on your employer's time.

lol, wut?
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post #19758 of 19878
2/13/13 at 2:48am
Hehe.
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post #19759 of 19878
2/14/13 at 6:14pm
Hello all,

I can use a little help here. I recently purchased a new receiver for my theater in the basement and so I moved my Denon 3308 to the living room. I ran the audyssy set up like I've done so many times before but assuming that everything went ok I never check the results. Later though, the next day, I went mess around with audyssy ( switching between L/R bypass and dynamic eq) I noticed my only options were manual or off. Any ideas of where I went wrong. I plan on doing it again when I get home from work tomorrow. I'm hoping someone could point out something I may have missed. when doing the set up.
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post #19760 of 19878
2/14/13 at 6:21pm
It's possible you simply forgot to save at the end.
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post #19761 of 19878
2/14/13 at 6:21pm
It's possible you simply forgot to save at the end.
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post #19762 of 19878
2/15/13 at 9:09am
I thought I did do that but maybe I didn't. Anyway I tried it again and this time every thing seems to be fine. Thanks
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post #19763 of 19878
2/18/13 at 4:35pm
My 3808 has always been a little finicky when it comes to connecting to it over the LAN. Lately it has become worse. My normal solution is to power cycle with the little button and then it works for a while. I have tried leaving it off over night but that didn't do anything.

The only thing I can think to do is to a microprocessor reset. Any other suggestions? I have saved the config.dat in the past and just did it again so it is current. If I reset and reload do all the settings get restored?

Thanks for the help.
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post #19764 of 19878
2/18/13 at 5:15pm
Yes, as long as the SAVE file isn't all zeros as if that is the case it will not load. Check with a hex viewer to ensure the SAVE file is valid.
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post #19765 of 19878
2/18/13 at 5:37pm
Thanks
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post #19766 of 19878
2/19/13 at 6:37am
Wow! Thanks. I checked my backups and they are both all zeros. Do I just keep doing saves and checking them until I get a good one?
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post #19767 of 19878
2/19/13 at 11:09am
Thanks again for the advice. The reload seemed to work. I haven't dug in too deep but everything is good so far. Now I need to figure out why our portable devices keep dropping WIFI.
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post #19768 of 19878
2/21/13 at 12:52pm
Hey guys, I got the feature pack upgrade yesterday (since Denon is giving it away for free now lol), because I wanted to use HDMI control. I turned it on and lost video. After 30 minutes of freaking out that I blew out my AVR or my DirecTV box or my TV lmao, I discovered that when I turned on HDMI control on the AVR, it disabled the HDMI input 3 I had for my DVR. Only my BluRay player supports control at this time. Why does Denon disable HDMI if the device doesn't support control? Is there a way to only do control on certain inputs?
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post #19769 of 19878
2/21/13 at 1:21pm
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Hey guys, I got the feature pack upgrade yesterday (since Denon is giving it away for free now lol), because I wanted to use HDMI control. I turned it on and lost video. After 30 minutes of freaking out that I blew out my AVR or my DirecTV box or my TV lmao, I discovered that when I turned on HDMI control on the AVR, it disabled the HDMI input 3 I had for my DVR. Only my BluRay player supports control at this time. Why does Denon disable HDMI if the device doesn't support control? Is there a way to only do control on certain inputs?

LOL, called up Denon support and they gave me some spiel about how my Denon BluRay player (1.4a) was conflicting with the AVR-3808 (1.3?) and my DVR (1.1?). I was like "ok, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about", so I gave up.

Googled and happened to find an updated manual from Denon where they say that HDMI Control On disables HDMI for the TV/Cbl input. No idea why lol. I guess I'll just have to move it over to the Sat input.
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post #19770 of 19878
2/21/13 at 2:48pm
hold it back up... they are giving the feature pack upgrade for free! which one is that?
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