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post #19771 of 20190
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Originally Posted by budwich View Post

hold it back up... they are giving the feature pack upgrade for free! which one is that?

A few years ago, I attempted to purchase the feature upgrade pack for my 4308CI, but was never able to get Denon to respond. I tried again a few weeks ago, and they authorized the upgrade for free. I now have HDMI CEC and a couple of other features. I still like this AVR over my more recently purchased 3313CI.
post #19772 of 20190
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Originally Posted by budwich View Post

hold it back up... they are giving the feature pack upgrade for free! which one is that?

It's with one with HDMI control, rhapsody, a few other things. I think like the volume control or something like that.
post #19773 of 20190
Is there a way to delete the Tv/Cbl input?

I just don't get some of the silly limitations Denon put on this AVR. With HDMI control ON, they disable HDMI on the Tv/Cbl source PERIOD. However, I can enable the SAT source and assign HDMI3 to that and it works just fine... so I thought I was golden, but then I realized that they don't let you delete the Tv/Cbl source for some arbitrary reason. Argh!

I could leave the Tv/Cbl source enabled and just use the SAT one I suppose haha, but I'm kind of anal and don't want non working inputs to be shown.
post #19774 of 20190
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Originally Posted by budwich View Post

hold it back up... they are giving the feature pack upgrade for free! which one is that?
I had the same experience... I bought a 3808CI a few weeks ago off of craigslist, and called in to get the feature pack that has been raved about here. I had my credit card ready and called for the upgrade, but they never asked for payment. A couple of days later it was available for download, and it enabled the Audyssey Dynamic EQ and Volume features (among more I think, but these are what I was after). I would have happily paid for these features, so needless to say I was very happy with the deal!
post #19775 of 20190
OK... thanks... I too am in the same "boat". Bought a used 4308 which was never upgraded with any software updates and was wondering about the dynamic volume feature pack when I updated the rest of the increments. So even though, I see that there was a "free period" back in 2010, it appears perhaps it still "applies"... maybe. I guess it doesn't hurt to try. Potentially, the dynamic volume feature might be useful in our environment. thanks again for the additional info.
Edited by budwich - 2/21/13 at 9:20pm
post #19776 of 20190
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Originally Posted by SledgeHammer View Post

Is there a way to delete the Tv/Cbl input?

I just don't get some of the silly limitations Denon put on this AVR. With HDMI control ON, they disable HDMI on the Tv/Cbl source PERIOD. However, I can enable the SAT source and assign HDMI3 to that and it works just fine... so I thought I was golden, but then I realized that they don't let you delete the Tv/Cbl source for some arbitrary reason. Argh!

I could leave the Tv/Cbl source enabled and just use the SAT one I suppose haha, but I'm kind of anal and don't want non working inputs to be shown.

Yes. Source Delete (p. 35 OM). smile.gif
post #19777 of 20190
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Yes. Source Delete (p. 35 OM). smile.gif

I know there is the Source Delete option smile.gif. Have you tried it? It doesn't let you delete the Tv/Cbl one. It doesn't let you delete the DVD one either. There are 2 or 3 that you are not allowed to delete apperently.
post #19778 of 20190
Ok... I'm confused... I checked again in the manual and there is a note that says "Input sources being used in the various zones cannot be deleted." What the heck does that mean? When I go into the source delete menu, Tv/Cbl says Main Zone, so it doesn't let me delete it. How do I remove it out of the main zone???
post #19779 of 20190
Ok... I'm confused... I checked again in the manual and there is a note that says "Input sources being used in the various zones cannot be deleted." What the heck does that mean? When I go into the source delete menu, Tv/Cbl says Main Zone, so it doesn't let me delete it. How do I remove it out of the main zone???
post #19780 of 20190
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Originally Posted by SledgeHammer View Post

Hey guys, I got the feature pack upgrade yesterday (since Denon is giving it away for free now lol), because I wanted to use HDMI control. I turned it on and lost video. After 30 minutes of freaking out that I blew out my AVR or my DirecTV box or my TV lmao, I discovered that when I turned on HDMI control on the AVR, it disabled the HDMI input 3 I had for my DVR. Only my BluRay player supports control at this time. Why does Denon disable HDMI if the device doesn't support control? Is there a way to only do control on certain inputs?

Thanks for the heads up on that. Just got off the phone with Denon and they confirmed that the upgrade is free now. Said mine should be ready to update in a few days. 3808CI by the way. cool.gif
post #19781 of 20190
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Originally Posted by SledgeHammer View Post

Ok... I'm confused... I checked again in the manual and there is a note that says "Input sources being used in the various zones cannot be deleted." What the heck does that mean? When I go into the source delete menu, Tv/Cbl says Main Zone, so it doesn't let me delete it. How do I remove it out of the main zone???

This simply means that you cannot delete a source that is currently selected in one of the "various zones". So ensure it is not selected in any zone and .... voila ... it can be deleted. smile.gif
post #19782 of 20190
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

This simply means that you cannot delete a source that is currently selected in one of the "various zones". So ensure it is not selected in any zone and .... voila ... it can be deleted. smile.gif

Argh!!! smile.gif.

Yes, I understand that... but not how to actually do it. Like how do I put SAT in the MAIN ZONE and take Tv/Cbl out??
post #19783 of 20190
Hmm... still don't see how to do this from the AVR, but it was straight forward via the web interface. Oh wellz smile.gif.
post #19784 of 20190
Manual Setup ---> Option Setup --> Source Delete (p. 35 OM).
post #19785 of 20190
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Manual Setup ---> Option Setup --> Source Delete (p. 35 OM).

Lol, yeah, you can't delete a source that is assigned to a zone. By default the AVR ships with Tv/Cbl assigned to MAIN ZONE, so you aren't allowed to delete it.
There is nothing in the manual on how to take it out of the MAIN ZONE.

As I indicated above, its straight forward on how to do it (taking it out of the MAIN ZONE) via the web interface, just not from the AVR. It is straight forward to delete a source from the AVR **as long as its not assigned to a zone**.
post #19786 of 20190
The easiest way would be to simply turn the big source select knob on the left side of the AVR. smile.gif
post #19787 of 20190
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The easiest way would be to simply turn the big source select knob on the left side of the AVR. smile.gif

No it doesn't smile.gif

(BEFORE) went into source delete

TV / Cbl -> MAIN ZONE (no delete option)
DVD -> ZONE 2 (no delete option)

If I switched to DVD via the big source knob lol, it became:

TV / Cbl -> ZONE 2 (no delete option)
DVD -> MAIN ZONE (no delete option)

If I switched to the NET source, it became:

NET -> MAIN ZONE
TV / Cbl -> ZONE 3 (no delete option)
DVD -> ZONE 2 (no delete option)

smile.gif.

That's the whole point...

I tried every source I have enabled: Tv/Cbl, SAT, VCR, DVD/BluRay, NET, CD and Tuner. At NO TIME under any of those sources did Tv/Cbl ever have the delete option. It was always in one of the 3 zones.
post #19788 of 20190
Hey guys,

My center channel took a tragic fall last night (a venerable, original Swans Diva C3 with the top-mounted tweeter, alas). As I deal with replacing/fixing that, are there any issues I may face running the 3808 in 4.0 channel mode?

For example, do I need to re-run Audyssey, or can I simply change the speaker configuration manually from 5.0 to 4.0?

Thanks!
post #19789 of 20190
Set the center to NONE and you should be good to go as there is no reason to rerun Audyssey again. smile.gif
post #19790 of 20190
You'll definitely need to rerun Audyssey.

Just a thought and only as a stop gap, might you be able to use the speaker(s) on your TV as a centre channel. Iif you do you'll still need to rerun Audyssey as well.

Good luck
blairy
post #19791 of 20190
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You'll definitely need to rerun Audyssey.

No. As JD already indicated there is no need to re-run Audyssey, you can simply set the CC to NONE and proceed in a 4.0 setup. You only need to re-run Audyssey if you ADD a new speaker or CHANGE something about the speaker setup.

The key point to understand is that each speaker is EQ'd independently. Turning off the center channel doesn't in any way impact the EQ filters on the other channels.
post #19792 of 20190
Whew - Batpig and AVS to the rescue!

(Which is fortunate as the manual is sooooo helpful!)

I really hope to re-attach a new tweeter - got a discussion going in another thread about that - but it's great to know I can deal in the meanwhile!
post #19793 of 20190
Does anyone have a quick link to the actual wattage #'s for running this receiver in 5.1 and 7.1. The manual makes me believe that it is 130, but I have read that the real wattages when run in 5.1 and 7.1 are much less.

Thanks
post #19794 of 20190
The 130W rating is the 8-ohm marketing rating, although only into 2CH while the 5CH and 7CH ratings would likely be closer to the 100W and 80W respectively.
post #19795 of 20190
According to the published specifications (pg 86 of the manual):
130 W+ 130 W + 160 W
(8 Ω/ohms, 20 Hz ~ 20 kHz with 0.05 % T.H.D.) (6 Ω/ohms, 1 kHz with 0.7 % T.H.D.)
on all channels.

Since the manual says, "Use speakers with an impedance of 6 to 16 Ω/ohms," I use the pre-outs to an external power amp for my 4 ohm speakers.
post #19796 of 20190
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Originally Posted by chiptouz View Post

Does anyone have a quick link to the actual wattage #'s for running this receiver in 5.1 and 7.1. The manual makes me believe that it is 130, but I have read that the real wattages when run in 5.1 and 7.1 are much less.

Thanks

Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1 percent distortion at 118.9 watts
1 percent distortion at 138.0 watts

All channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1 percent distortion at 113.5 watts
1 percent distortion at 130.7 watts

Thank heavens for reviewers with test benches: http://www.hometheater.com/content/denon-avr-3808ci-av-receiver-ht-labs-measures
post #19797 of 20190
Can Some One Help?? Denon AVR-3808ci
I Was Messing With The Tone Adjustment And Found Out That You Can Not Do Tone Adjustment When In 7.1 Sound To The Center,Surr, Or Back's Speakers Only The Front Left And Right Ones Is That Right.mad.gif
Thanks For Any Help.rolleyes.gif
Tim From Mi.
post #19798 of 20190
Hey guys,
I got the feature pack upgrade Last Week To Free To.smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif I Was Just Doing A Update And Got .smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif
Tim From Mi.
post #19799 of 20190
The Control is On But I Have Only Control Of The Bass and Treble Of The
Front Left And Right Speakers . When In 7.1 storeo
post #19800 of 20190
IIRC, yes, this is correct, FL/FR only. On the newer models with Dyn EQ pre-installed, Dyn EQ must be disabled in order for the Tone Control settings to be used. Not sure if that is true when using the Upgrade package Dyn EQ.
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