^ Being in Canada, and requiring a warranty (past Denon AVR experiemce...lol), I can't really buy a Denon outside Canada. I am otherwise aware of jdsmoothie's ability to get people good prices via AVS.
Edit: FWIW, the 4520 costs exactly $1k more than the X-4000 here, not much discount on either at this time, not even at the dealer where I've spent 10s of k$ at in the last 5 years. I'm only willing to pay so much for the Audyssey improvement, would rather buy software. Edit 2: spoke to people who know me instead, so I retract the "discount" statement.
I will not use the X-4000's amps, pretty sure I've never used the 3808's except to test working. So that part is fine. I really only want the XT32 and Sub EQ (for two subs here), that's my whole reason for "upgrading". Just trying to make sure I don't lose anything that I actually do use (like I did with the 4310).
And jdsmoothie: I probably already have a use for the other "zone". For instance, I can not play a game with the PS3 (HDMI) and listen to another source with the 3808. On another subject: the 3808 has the worst AM tuner I've ever encountered in gear for over $10. AM is much more valuable here for certain sports etc. I can't get any other way. For FM I have a "proper" tuner. We have no HD radio here, too far from the U.S. border to get it most days. Hope the X-4000 AM radio isn't too bad, I'm not surprised they took it out for a year because IMO it was worthless. But I have my current option (not 3808) JIC anyway.
Thanks guys. Sounds like the X-4000 is perfectly up my alley...Edited by cfraser - 10/10/13 at 9:13am