The "Official" Denon AVR-3808CI Thread - Page 97

So, in general, for the V1800, when you transcode/upconvert component to HDMI thru the AVR and send it over HDMI to the TV, the AVR also includes the audio over the HDMI, right?

Sorry for being dense about that...just a bit slow - so much to learn.

Thanks,
Erik

V1800? This is the Denon AVR-3808CI.

Here is the Thread on the Yamaha V1800.......

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=888942

Yes, you can send audio to the TV or AMP by selection in the menu. HDMI>HDMI scaling does not work when sending audio to the TV, the video goes with it unaltered.

Note: you cannot send audio to both the TV and AMP.

Just got this receiver the other day, liking it a lot. Quick question, I see several Denon iPod docks for it... which one are you all using and why?

FYI: 6.1 is fixed with the latest firmware.

Hook your SB speaker to SBL
AMP zone 2 = 7.1
Manually set up the speaker config for 6.1 BEFORE running Audyssey
Run Audyssey and it will automatically skip SBR and move to SBL correctly

This is confirmed with Denon, spent quite some time with them testing.

I'm looking at installing a 7.1 sound system for the living room as zone 1 with two additional speakers located in another part of the house to listen to music as zone 2. Page 9 of the manual suggests that I can hook up the zone 2 speakers while also hooking up all of the 7.1 speaker system to zone 1 of the receiver. However, the manual isn't clear on this.

I'd like to be able to switch from one zone to the other without using a seperate amplifier for zone 2. I'm hoping that the Denon 3808ci automatically drops from 7.1 to 5.1 when running zones 1 and 2 simulatneously. However, it is very unlikely I would run both zones simultaneously. I would be satisfied if I could hook the zone 2 speakers to the receiver at the same time all of the 7.1 speakers for zone 1 are attached, and be able to switch from zone 1 to zone 2, without a seperate amplifier for zone 2.

I looked at pages 68-71 of the manual, but can't figure out if the Denon will allow this. Does anyone know if this is possible? Thanks in advance...

I use a Harmony 890 and got around this by manually programming the IR codes from the second (little) remote that has direct source buttons for each input, unlike the large remote that requires double pressing the input keys.

I was going to ask the same question as snowboarder... this is great. Also, it's nice to finally have a use for a second zone remote... I never have used one before!

Will the Denon Link work with my 2910 DVD ----> 3808Ci?

oops - no Denon Link on my 2910.. i guess it will not work.

Still interested in the receiver. How does it sound for 2 channel or SACD music listening?

There is only one set of speaker connections the SURR BACK / AMP ASSIGN for the AMP that can be assigned. Pg 68-69 detail what could be done. In practice you woud have to configure the Denon to be either zone2 or surround back (or bi amp to share zone one FL & FR). And then use a speaker switcher to either be your back speakers or the zone2 speakers. Think these can be had with IR control (with a remote macro might be reasonable automatic to switch)

Obviously only use the surround back amp assign when the speaker switcher is connected to the rear channels (would want them to get same signal as the fronts for zone2 or zone1).

A separate amp you could turn on with 12v trigger would be more elegant solution (old amp/receiver with a trigger power strip could be cheap alternative). This would let you do the 7.1 and zone2 at same time.

I think that is a function of your speakers not so much the receiver

I have a slight dilemma...I hooked up a gaming adapter, to the 3808, and can't seem to connect to the internet radio. I even tried to get the firmware update, and it kept failing.

Maybe it's a problem with the connection, but, all the activity lights are working, the network settings are all good...just that it keeps failing?

I even tried to go in through radiodenon.com, but that didn't seem to work, even though the receiver is registered, etc.

Any ideas?

Inthedeck,
Go to the top right corner of the Thread and do a search for "Network".
There are a vast number of posts regarding network "issues" such as what you are experiencing.

We could go on here with a back and forth and maybe get to the fix, but the best way is to see what has been asked and answered already regarding this problem. There are just too many possible answers to your question to renumerate them all here again.

Hi. Need some help. Manual sucks and I wasn't able to locate the info in here. I can't figure out how to get the web interface going. I have wireless to my laptop and have the 3808 plugged into one of the ports in the wireless modem. I know there is a connection between the 3808 and the net because I did the FW update. Just can't figure out how to get at the 3808 from my laptop. Appreciate the help.

Bob,

You just type the IP address of the Denon into your browser and the web interface will open.

To get the IP, go to your router or the Denon menu under Network Info.

I'm new to the forum, but have been reading this and the bug forum since I purchased my 3808ci a few months ago.

The User Manual for this really sucks. It's more like an automotive service manual than an Operators Manual. Anyone interested in creating a "Denon 3808ci How To Forum"? I think the 3808ci is going to be real popular and a how to or FAQ is really needed to assist new users due to the terrible user manual.

Some suggested topics:

How do I check the Firmware level?
How do I update the Firmware?
How do I determine my MAC address for the Denon internet radio?
How do I set up my PC and Denon to play audio from my PC?
How do I use the Web interface on my PC?
How do I set up the 3 Quick Select buttons?
My On Screen Display went away, how do I get it back?

These are just some examples that I remember going through the first week or so.

Others interested?

Wonderful. I couldn't agree more. Here's another for your list.

How do I use the new undocumented save function that showed up in a software update?

hey guys, quick question.

what do I need to get XM working with the 3808? Prior to me getting the 3808 I had a Roady2 hooked up and just used the stereo RCA jacks on my previous receiver. I'd like to take advantage of the 3808's XM capabilities but, don't know what I need. The antenna I had from my Roady2 doesn't look like it will plug into the 3808. Do I just need another type of antenna or do I need a receiver module or what? I'd appreciate the help.

thanks

I use XM radio in my car as well as the Denon. Try this, or google for such:

XM Mini-Tuner and Home Dock Kit.
http://www.xmradio.com/shop/index.xmc
Click "At home/In the Office" on the left side of the web page
And of course a subscription!

Look on page 18 in your manual, you need additional parts from Denon.

I went to Denon's website and couldn't find anything that was was for XM. However, I did some more search and it looks like all I need is an XM connect and play antenna. Now, I just have to find one.

the manual says I should set my sub cross-x at 120hz during Audyssey, did everyone do this?

I'm getting at the end of my rope... I've bought the 3808 a week ago and have since tried to update the firmware a LOT of times. It's wired to my DSL modem/router and I've tried to update using DHCP both in on and off mode (in the second case defining the network data manually), but always when starting the updatefirmware request I get the "login failed" after a couple of seconds of "Please wait..."
The Internet radio works fine, only the update function seems to have a problem. I've also already registered to Radiodenon.com (although that shouldn't make a difference, as this seems only focused on the internet radio functionality...
My firmware version is 1.05, so I really want to update. Can anyone tell me what I have forgotten/failed to do...?
I haven't yet registered my unit at the Denon site, as I'm located in Europe and the only place I've found you can register is on the US site (and is apparently only meant for US residents, as you have to enter your location within one of the states)

On another note, I also bought the RC7000/7001 combo in addition to the AVR and this seems to work quite qell. Not great (yet), but I haven't taken the time to configure it much, as I'm still focusing primarily on the 3808 at the moment...

@Crysmalion,

just do an factory reset prior to updating. To do so, switch off the receiver using small power button (cut off power totally) Then press and hold UP and DOWN on the receiver while switching it back on.

Your display should flash fully illuminated. Thats it.

Now start the update after configuring only the network.

Just to mention, you are loosing all your settings.

The reset is required with most of the 1.05 machines. Had to do it also. After the first update further updates no longer need a factory reset.

I own a denon 3808 and would like to stream audio/video (mostly photo's) from my imac to the TV (sony w3000). I have considered the ipod doc, apple tv or purchasing a xbox/ps3. What have others done?

I dont play many games, so am not vetted to a ps3/xbox, but would buy one of them for the HD DVD or blu ray player bonus.

I would appreciate any advice others could offer.

Thanks in advance

I can't seem to get my back speakers working. Audyssey recognized the back speakers, but when playing a blue ray disc, it is showing 5.1 as the input, and 5.1 as the output. The display is showing DTS Surround.

I tried going into the surroung paramater and choosing a surround back mode but the only choice I get is On/Off, which is what the choice is supposed to be for a 2-channel source.

I have a blue ray, HD-DVD, and two DirecTV HD DVR's connected via HDMI. How do I set the receiver to give me 7.1 matrixed sound from 5.1 and 6.1 sources?

Thanks

So if we're watching tv from our Motorola MOXI cable box (video=component / audio=coaxial), sometimes we're watching crappy local programming and sometimes we're watching the premium movie channels....

Do we have to switch the audio settings between some type of simulated stereo for the crappy stuff and Dolby Digital/DTS for the premium movie channels? Or is there some kind of auto setting. (we don't mind switching audio settings depending on programming, we just want to know if there's a better way....are we missing something?)

If you try a Dolby Digital audio track you should see the Surround on "Standard" and then in the Parameters>Audio>Surround Par> select Dolby PLII-Cinema, etc. and that will give you the 7.1 you are looking for. PLIIx extends 5.1 to the backs for 7.1. see the pic.

Also make sure under the Manual setup in Audio you have Auto Surround to ON. see pic

Thanks but I know that. The question is specific to Kuro owners. If you have one please confirm that you tried and it did not work.

The Denon is great in that it will remember the audio settings you select for the type of station selected! That is if you watch ESPN HD and its Dolby Digital audio you will see Surround as Standard and can select the various surround parameters, or you can select another audio format, ie Super Stadium, etc. see pic.....AND it will remember that for the next time you select a station with that audio format!

Would I *have* to use Windows Media Player to stream mp3 or flac files?