The "Official" Denon AVR-3808CI Thread - Page 98

No....do a search for Twonky; Tversity. Many use either of these to work also.

Both require UPnP to work? I thought that was a security risk and always disable that.

Can someone using this receiver tell me what iPod dock you are using and if it works properly? I was reading the iPod dock reviews for this unit and a lot of people seemed to have trouble with it (at least the people posting on Amazon, Crutchfield, etc). Thanks!

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...y-risk-or.html


"UPnP is just as reliable, and as safe, as any applications running on your computer. If you control your computers properly, and ONLY trusted applications run on them, UPnP is perfectly safe. If you don't control your computers properly, applications hijacking UPnP to open holes in your router will be the least of your worries.

UPnP is actually more secure when your computers can be trusted. UPnP, as I state above, will dynamically instruct the router to close specific ports when they are not needed. Port forwarding, and port triggering, leave ports open forever.

The other advantage of UPnP is that it allows you to have servers on your LAN, using dynamic IP addressing. Port forwarding requires a server to have a fixed IP address. Port triggering, depending upon the NAT router, may or may not require a server to have a fixed IP address.
With port forwarding, or port triggering, you can have only a single computer on the LAN running a given server application. A pre defined port can be forwarded to only one server.
With UPnP forwarding, multiple computers can run the same UPnP compliant application, such as an IM program. The server application can negotiate with the router, as necessary, and have the port forwarded.


Bottom line? A properly written UPnP capable application is more functional, and no less secure, than an equivalent non-UPnP capable application. On a LAN with a properly designed layered security strategy, it will not create a security risk."

The only reason to use the Denon iPod dock is the pre-programmed remote control codes in your Denon remote. The newest dock adds WiFi, so if you want to be net-connected but don't have CAT5, that's a good way to get there.

I use a DLO HomeDock Deluxe, which also has remote control, on-screen navigation, etc. It's a bit more expensive than the cheapest Denon dock, but it works great and has probably the best GUI, at least as of a year ago, for iPod docks.

Wow! You got me all excited with this feature! But it doesn't seem to work for us. I start with the Today Show on NBC and choose 5-Channel Stereo (Dolby Digital isn't available to select). Then I switch to ESPN-HD and choose Dolby Pl II Cinema (Dolby Digital not available to select). But when I switch back to the Today show on NBC the Denon audio settings don't change.

Hmmmm...... We're not connected via HDMI. Our video = component and audio = coaxial. Is your cable box connected vie HDMI?

We bought the ASD-1R Denon iPod dock and it works great. You can use the remote to select what you want to do with your iPod (select playlists, shuffle on/off, etc...) and all the info is displayed on the front of the AVR-3903CI as well as displayed on your television monitor. My wife likes to just leave the tv off and listen to her iPod while she works around the house.

Thanks!

Thanks!

see the pic.....
that should do the trick.

In case anyone was curious about the inside of the 3808 here's what it looks like!

I dont know if this is a HDTV question or a receiver question, but I would like my PS3 to go via HDMI direct into my plasma and everything else (cable TV and old CD player) through the receiver . Would I use HDMI from the 3808i to the TV and an HDMI from the PS3 to the TV and an optical cable from the TV back to the receiver for audio. Or would I have the optical cable go from the PS3 directly to the receiver bypassing the plasma? Will I have audio and switching problems if I try this? Something tells me that my 1080p will be better if I go directly from the PS3 to the Kuro. Any advice? Thanks.

Thanks, Ravenous! The reset did the trick!
The firmware has now been updated to Version 1.60
I'll now have to redo the entire setup, but that doesn't temper the relief of finally having been able to update!

Current version:
Main ver.: 1.60
Sub ver.: 0.38
DSP1: 36.49
DSP2: 39.41

Ethernet
IMG: I200711060409
BR: B200707020733
CNE: C20071106
WEB: W200711060350

GUI
FPGA Config: A070629B
PRG: 00007621
DAT: 37750008

DGTL PLD: 0.50

Go directly to the Denon. 1080p will pass thru the Denon untouched and not affect the video at all.

Thanks. I did what you said on my 5.1 DirecTV sources, and now have 7.1.

Any idea why the Blu Ray disc (Sony BDP-S300) showed DTS input and didn't give me the choice to choose a back channel out format, like I could with the Dolby Digital signal?


Just figured that out last night. My DD directv channels were just playing in stereo, so I changed them to decode the signal sent and got my 7.1, then on a non HD channel that was just sending stereo, I was able to choose PLIIx, and when I went back and forth between the channels, it remembered the settings. This is a great feature that my last receiver didn't have.

Thanks BW. I'm sorry but I still don't really get it, but tomorrow I'm going to do some more testing. We're getting an HD-DVD player tomorrow (hopefully) so we'll have more sources to test with.

Here's one. For now, I just have the fronts, center and sub hooked up. When I choose some of the surround modes like Dolby PL II.......cinema, I only get sound from the center channel. Dolby PLII music is ok. Some of the other modes like Wide Screen and Neural only play from the center as well????? I checked speaker config and all speakers are shown. I didn't think this was going on yesterday. Anybody have any ideas??? Thanks.

Hi. Has anyone assessed the NAD T775 / 785 against Denon 3808 /4308?

My home theatre will be based on Monitor Audio RS 6,LCR, FX,RS 1 + sub. Primary source will be Sony PS3 for CD, DVD and Blu-Ray.
Replacing my previous Marantz SR-96 receiver with a powerful, musical receiver that supports multichannel PCM over HDMI.

I'm not interested in multi-room, video upscaling, IPOD connectivity. I just want high quality, reliable music and sound over HDMI.

I have been assuming NAD will be the way to go but interested in any perspectives or experiences people have..

thanks, Raymond

You need to make sure that "Auto Surround" is ON in the Manual Setup>Audio>Auto Surround menu. If it is ON then whatever surround mode you select will be maintained for that audio format on that channel. So, if you select 5/7 channel stereo for NBC that is a two channel stereo channel it will remember that setting next time you switch to that channel. Likewise if ESPN HD is Dolby Digital it will remember that setting as well.

Just need to make sure the Auto Surround in the menu mentioned above is set to ON. I hope that is what you were trying to figure out as it seemed that the channel surround mode was NOT being remembered.

Ok, so I just came home and turned on the receiver to watch the Wings game. No display. I cycled through the output options on my DTV receiver and got a display, then it went black again. Went to go to the menu on the GUI - Green Screen. ****. Powered off, powered on. Greeen screen. ****.

Did a firmware update. Green screen. ****.

Anybody have any ideas? This sucks, I'm suppsoed to have a Rock Band party tomorrow!!!!

HDMI connected?

Check the connector to make sure it is seated well at both ends...sounds like it might have pulled loose. Especially if it has been working ok.

One more piece of info. If I turn the center channel off in speaker config, the sound moves to the fronts. It's as if the sound cannot be sent to fronts and center at the same time. This happens in regular Pologic as well. Help would be appreciated.

This is dependent upon the type of DSP mode selected as you have found. see the pic and note. ie Widescreen will be only center channel for a two channel source, so you need to select another mode like Matrix to get the fronts into use. I think that is what the note in the pic is trying to say. Mine does the same as yours and I have a 7.1 setup. (ie widescreen).

If you have a Dolby D source, ie ESPN HD then the widescreen will work and audio will be present from the fronts as well as the other 7.1 speakers.

Thanks BW. I see you've been a lot of help to a bunch of people. I see what you mean but I'm almost sure that this worked yesterday for Neural and PL cinema. I am bringing in analog through composite. Does yours do the same thing in Neural and PL Cinema.....output to center only? Appreciate your help.

Turns out the HDMI splitter I have went flakey. Rebooted that and all was well.

Blew away all my settings by doing a factory reset though. DOH!

That did it! It's working!! Thank's bw!!

Okay, here's an easy one.....

How come every time we change sources (like changing from DVD to TV/Cable) the master volume resets itself to -39.5? Is there any way that we can get the 3808 to maintain volume as we switch between sources?

Heck, even if you switch to another source and then switch right back that volume changes to -39.5......weird.

Maybe we need to do the firmware update? Dunno.

I have been trying to get this to work for awhile now and thought I had seen others confirm that this was software bug. It does not seem to work even with software updates...

I have mp3 files on my PC and can create a playlist in WMP that plays fine through the 3808. Whenever I choose the random function on the NET/USB playback to "on", it seems to jump it right back to "off".

Anyone have same experience or better yet, anyone get this to work correctly? Thanks.

This is not a bug....according to the owner's manual, random only works for USB input sources...

cheers

Not sure about this, bwclark. I haven't been able to stream FLAC successfully over Twonky from my ReadyNAS. I can see the files, but they won't play.

Has anyone else had any luck with this?