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post #6151 of 20190
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Originally Posted by dgersic View Post

6th Avenue, or Electronics Expo.

Also check with J&R as I believe they will price match the 6th Ave. price. If I go with the 3808 I am going with J&R. I have talked a few times with J&R and I liked their no pressure, very helpful attitude.

Bill
post #6152 of 20190
Here's my challenge:

I'm trying to get a Vtech Vsmile working through the Denon 3808CI. Problem is, it doesn't seem to work. I think the Denon 3808 is not handling the analog to digital video conversion. Someone explained to me before the reason the VCR fast forward display doesn't work is because the Denon can't handle the signal conversion when the VCR is in fast forward mode. I imagine this VTECH Vsmile is displaying video in such a way that that is similar. I am only running HDMI and Component to my wall mounted TV so running another red/white/yellow cable is not an option I want to bother with. Any suggestions? Any cheap analog to digital converters?

thanks
post #6153 of 20190
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Originally Posted by daddygrant View Post

For some reason my GUI has stopped working on my receiver. I don't have the Menu GUI or Volume OSD. The receiver is pushing video via HDMI. Has anyone ran across this problem?

And No, I did not change anything.

What firmware version? Others have mentioned this I think in this thread.
post #6154 of 20190
Don't get me wrong. When this receiver works its like the second coming of Jesus but I feel like I own a "work in progress".

Anyone else shares this point of view?
post #6155 of 20190
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Originally Posted by daddygrant View Post

Don't get me wrong. When this receiver works its like the second coming of Jesus but I feel like I own a "work in progress".

Anyone else shares this point of view?

Better a "work in progress" then realizing just SOL.
post #6156 of 20190
Hi Folks - first post, so forgive me if I screw this up!
Just bought a Denon 3808 and tried to use Net/USB features. All is OK except that it will only see one computer on my network and not two others which are also running Windows Media 11 with media sharing. I guess it must be something with the other computers, but I'm stuck as to what it might be? Any ideas? I can see the Denon from every computer! Thanks for your help,
Steve
post #6157 of 20190
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Originally Posted by sgapper View Post

Hi Folks - first post, so forgive me if I screw this up!
Just bought a Denon 3808 and tried to use Net/USB features. All is OK except that it will only see one computer on my network and not two others which are also running Windows Media 11 with media sharing. I guess it must be something with the other computers, but I'm stuck as to what it might be? Any ideas? I can see the Denon from every computer! Thanks for your help,
Steve

sgapper,
Do you have firewall software (like ZoneAlarm, Norton Security, etc.) on your two PCs that are not showing up? If you do, you may need to go into the firewall settings and open up the ports that are listed in the Media Player file sharing information. As a quick test you can shut down the firewall software, while you determine how to open the correct ports. Also, it may help if you post what operating systems are running on the PCs.
post #6158 of 20190
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Originally Posted by sgapper View Post

Hi Folks - first post, so forgive me if I screw this up!
Just bought a Denon 3808 and tried to use Net/USB features. All is OK except that it will only see one computer on my network and not two others which are also running Windows Media 11 with media sharing. I guess it must be something with the other computers, but I'm stuck as to what it might be? Any ideas? I can see the Denon from every computer! Thanks for your help,
Steve

firewall on those 2 PC's?
post #6159 of 20190
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Originally Posted by ThePrisoner View Post

I may be upgrading from my 3806 to a 3808 this week. My question is, I had my 3806 Eq'ed manually when I had my display ISF calibrated. Can I put those EQ, channel level & crossovers on the 3808 or is the audio set-up a little different.

Should I update the firmware?

The 3808 has the same frequencies to adjust that the 3806 has. I input my 3806 settings into my 3808 manual EQ settings until I get a chance to run the Audessy setup.
post #6160 of 20190
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Originally Posted by daddygrant View Post

Don't get me wrong. When this receiver works its like the second coming of Jesus but I feel like I own a "work in progress".

Anyone else shares this point of view?

When it works? Mine works everytime I turn it on. I have no problems.
post #6161 of 20190
Hi Guys

I just bought an AVR-3808 i am trying to set up the Amp in 7.1 for the main and setup the zone 2 with an independant power amp. The problem is i have video feed from the monitor of zone 2 but no audio. Any clue as to what is the possible cause of my problem.

Thanks for your replies

Regards

Michel
post #6162 of 20190
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Originally Posted by Phoenix230 View Post

Hi Guys

I just bought an AVR-3808 i am trying to set up the Amp in 7.1 for the main and setup the zone 2 with an independant power amp. The problem is i have video feed from the monitor of zone 2 but no audio. Any clue as to what is the possible cause of my problem.

Thanks for your replies

Regards

Michel

Starting with page 68 users manual any help?

http://usa.denon.com/AVR-3808CI-OM-EU_200.pdf
post #6163 of 20190
My setup is similar to the top of page of 70 except i get no audio from pre out of zone 2. I wonder if it requires a set up in the gui to get true 7.1 on my speakers and activate the pre out of zone 2. Any one who has a similar setup Who might be able to help?

Thanks for the answer

Regards

Michel
post #6164 of 20190
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Originally Posted by Phoenix230 View Post

My setup is similar to the top of page of 70 except i get no audio from pre out of zone 2. I wonder if it requires a set up in the gui to get true 7.1 on my speakers and activate the pre out of zone 2. Any one who has a similar setup Who might be able to help?

Thanks for the answer

Regards

Michel

In the GUI under 'manual setup', 'option setup', 'amp assign' there are options. I currently run 5.1 setup using zone2 wired to patio speakers. I select 'zone2' for amp assign and can play separate or same source in each zone simultaneous. Haven't tried a 6.1 or 7.1 setup with the pre out of zone 2/3. Maybe this GUI option set is helpful?

Edit: Check out this in development 3808/4308 control program 'Command3808': http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ht=command3808

I have found this program useful for controlling zone 2. i.e. turning it on and off, adjusting volume, etc.
post #6165 of 20190
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Originally Posted by daddygrant View Post

Don't get me wrong. When this receiver works its like the second coming of Jesus but I feel like I own a "work in progress".

Anyone else shares this point of view?

I don't. I just purchased the 3808CI a week ago, and I'm very satisfied with it.

While you might have expected a "finished" product, I feel the firmware upgrades are beneficial because not only are they able to resolve (software-based) problems... they might add additional functionality in the future.

Consider that against a receiver with flaws that are unfixable unless the unit is shipped back to the manufacturer. Consider that would involve EVERY unit being sent back. How fun would that be?

Granted, I am somewhat conditioned to this updatable firmware concept by owning a PS3. But I am more than happy by what the 3808CI delivers, and would look at Denon products again for future purchases.
post #6166 of 20190
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Originally Posted by bwclark View Post

There is no sleep timer ability of the new Denon AVRs....before or after the FW update.

This makes me sad. Does anyone know if there is a way to add this feature, or perhaps it's undocumented in English?
post #6167 of 20190
I have a quick question: On radiodenon, you can create folders which will appear under 'favorites' in the receiver GUI, so you can organize your favorite stations by genre, etc. Is there any way to delete or rename these folders after they're created? I cant seem to find any way to do it!

Thanks,
Michael
post #6168 of 20190
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Originally Posted by average_joe View Post

sgapper,
Do you have firewall software (like ZoneAlarm, Norton Security, etc.) on your two PCs that are not showing up? If you do, you may need to go into the firewall settings and open up the ports that are listed in the Media Player file sharing information. As a quick test you can shut down the firewall software, while you determine how to open the correct ports. Also, it may help if you post what operating systems are running on the PCs.

Thanks average joe - I'm sure it's something to do with the port settings. I'm running xp home on all PC's and have disabled the Windows firewall on all PC's, relying on the wireless modem router's firewall for security. But I'm not sure how to go from here - could you help further?
Thanks, Steve
post #6169 of 20190
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Originally Posted by ThePrisoner View Post

I may be upgrading from my 3806 to a 3808 this week. My question is, I had my 3806 Eq'ed manually when I had my display ISF calibrated. Can I put those EQ, channel level & crossovers on the 3808 or is the audio set-up a little different.

Should I update the firmware?


I would try the Audessey first and see how you like it. The manual eq from the old amp takes that amp's sound into consideration.

As for the FW upgrade; I would do it. Especially while you can return your 3808 should something horrible go wrong. I personally have not done the upgrade yet but that is only because I haven't had time to play around. I did do the 1.57 upgrade when I bought my unit. Everything went fine so when I get a chance I'll try it.
post #6170 of 20190
Hi,

I just received my new 3808, and it looks awesome so far. Did the firmware update, so that's done. We're in the process of remodeling some of the HT room, so in the interim, I've used the HDMI audio -> TV (instead of the Amp), so that I can move all the speakers out of the room.

I've got a PS3 hooked up to the HDP input (HDMI), and a DVD player hooked up (svideo/digital coax audio). Video/Audio appear through the TV without issue for the PS3, however, for the DVD player, I don't get audio output to the TV (just video). Is it the case that the audio has to start on the HDMI input before it can be output to the TV, or did I miss an additional setting to make this happen? Not a huge deal, since it's a temporary situation, but would be great if it worked.

Thanks for the help,

Erick
post #6171 of 20190
I just wanted to thank member Rayjr for the great job he did on the Audyssey Pro calibration for my 3808CI. This being my first HT I thought the sound was great until Ray worked his magic. He also made sure my components were properly matched to the Denon.

Elliot
post #6172 of 20190
Thanks Elliot,
Hope you are enjoying the sound in your Theater Room.

Later
RayJr
post #6173 of 20190
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Originally Posted by rec head View Post

I would try the Audessey first and see how you like it. The manual eq from the old amp takes that amp's sound into consideration. ....


Amplifier's add little character to the sound in most cases. I would copy the settings.
post #6174 of 20190
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Originally Posted by tokerblue View Post

- The A30 cannot bitstream Dolby TrueHD. The only HD-DVD player that can send the new codecs as bitstream is the A35. The bitstream option in the A30 menu refers to Dolby Digital and DTS.

The only way to listen to Dolby TrueHD is to let the player decode the codec and send it to the receiver as multi-channel PCM. It should sound identical to the receiver decoding it since it's a lossless format. The 3808 will display Multi-channel In.

I bought an A35 from a big sale. I need a second HD DVD player just in case one breaks (and finally listen to Dolby TrueHD on my 3808). I'll have a back up HD DVD player to play my HD DVD collection for a while.

I still can not get my 3808 to accept Dolby TrueHD audio. My A35 settings:
Digital Audio Output: Bitstream (manual says use this for TrueHD)
Digital Out HDMI: Auto
Digital Direct Audio Mode: High bitrate audio enabled
Dynamic Range Control: Auto

3808 settings (using HDMI input 1):
Input Mode: HDMI (switching to AUTO does not make a difference)
Decode Mode: Auto (when switching to PCM no sound at all)

With these settings the 3808 shows "DOLBY D + PLIIx" instead of "DOLBY TRUEHD". I am using Elizabeth The Golden Age and Happy Feet as test HD DVDs.
post #6175 of 20190
Is it possible to connect my old Nintendo (NES) to the 3808? My 3808 is connected to my TV via HDMI.
post #6176 of 20190
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Originally Posted by Nickff View Post

Is it possible to connect my old Nintendo (NES) to the 3808? My 3808 is connected to my TV via HDMI.

I posted a question yesterday to see if it would be possible to get a VTECH VSMILE connected in the same manner (composite to 3808, HDMI to TV) but I have not had any luck. I suspect this won't work for the Nintendo (NES) either. I did order a $2.50 composite to svideo connector from monoprice to see if this would work, but my gut tells me that it will not. For $2.50 I figured it's worth a try though.
post #6177 of 20190
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Originally Posted by kpdillon View Post

I posted a question yesterday to see if it would be possible to get a VTECH VSMILE connected in the same manner (composite to 3808, HDMI to TV) but I have not had any luck. I suspect this won't work for the Nintendo (NES) either. I did order a $2.50 composite to svideo connector from monoprice to see if this would work, but my gut tells me that it will not. For $2.50 I figured it's worth a try though.

Wow, that's interesting. I still have my Sega Saturn and Sega Genesis boxed up somewhere in the storage. Let me know if you get your VTECH (or NES for NIckff) to work.
post #6178 of 20190
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Originally Posted by rgobantes3 View Post

Wow, that's interesting. I still have my Sega Saturn and Sega Genesis boxed up somewhere in the storage. Let me know if you get your VTECH (or NES for NIckff) to work.

Yep, interestingly enough it will handle a VCR ok, but when you use the fast forward function you won't see it displayed on the screen.
post #6179 of 20190
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Originally Posted by YellowLight View Post

Does the pro version allow for correction of phase as well? The standard one included fixes up the frequency response but doesn't seem to help phase. (Or maybe it's just time for me to get a nice set of Rockets. )

If you are asking if the PRO allows you invert phase on speakers..the answer is no...there is no option for that in the software.

RayJr
post #6180 of 20190
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Originally Posted by kpdillon View Post

I posted a question yesterday to see if it would be possible to get a VTECH VSMILE connected in the same manner (composite to 3808, HDMI to TV) but I have not had any luck. I suspect this won't work for the Nintendo (NES) either. I did order a $2.50 composite to svideo connector from monoprice to see if this would work, but my gut tells me that it will not. For $2.50 I figured it's worth a try though.

What is the limitation on this? I thought the 3808 upconverted any input to HDMI? Are there some that it won't upconvert and output to HDMI?

Thanks.
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