The "Official" Denon AVR-3808CI Thread - Page 208

I am also guessing that one of those Atari joysticks that you can buy at Walgreens for $5.99 that output to composite (usually loaded with 5-6 games like pacman, combat etc) probably would not work either through the Denon with a component/HDMI out to the TV.

Walgreens has that! Hmmm... maybe no need for a PS3 then. Well maybe not, the Atari at Walgreens probably won't stream video Heck if it did I would just plug it directly into the TV It would look terrible but cheap!

Tried one on the front input of the 3808, got some kind of signal but I couldn't exactly tell you what was going on. The kids wanted to play with the thing at the time so I didn't spend anytime debugging, just found the side inputs on the TV (Samsung LN-T5265) and went straight into it instead.

I'll save you the hassle of a Walgreens trip and trade you the Atari Joystick for your PS3... I'll even throw in a couple of videos...

Geez, to think once I buy the PS3 that I'll be using up 3 of the 4 HDMI inputs on the 3808 already! Glad I ran that second HDMI cable through the wall to my TV so that I at least have two more HDMI's to use up... After my Vsmile experience with composite cables you can bet that I'll be looking for HDMI output on their next version.

I hear ya! No guarantee on video conversion. Any device I buy regardless of the connection type will get tested and if no play nice with the 3808 through to the TV back it goes (except for the VCR since it's long out of warranty and I don't really use it. Connected just in case I need to play a tape). Same thinking for a TV upgrade. Have to weigh the options as upgrades performed.

Don't have a PS3 yet. I would like to eventually stream movies though. And of course have a blue ray player.

The PS3 is sure nice to have with this receiver and a nice tv. I show 7.1 input on the Denon even just on the main PS3 screen, ie no game or movie. I can't wait for this thing to get the DTS HD MA decoding ability! TruHD is awesome.

I want mostly a video streaming device. The blue ray and games the PS3 has is a bonus. Keeping my eye on the decoding abilities of current PS3 models.

Guys who bought it from Steve @EE, are u happy? I bought 1 today. Just not happy that I will get it only next week. I thought expedited shipping meant I would get it in a day or two.

Captav's and Electronleaker, stop this talk about hooking up a PS3 to the Denon, my wallet is starting to burn a whole in my pocket again! So, like the Denon the PS3 is expected to get DTS HD MA added via firmware, right?

Captav, I agree - streaming Netflix movies through the PS3 hooked up to the Denon would be cool! I'd consider subscribing to that...

@rynberg & aaronwt

Yes, it works. Thanks for your help. There were two things that I missed. First the Warner disc's TrueHD option was in the language option and not in audio option. Second, the Dolby TrueHD symbol is so small that it probably worked on the Universal disc but I did not see it. The picture of 4308ci on the Denon website has dtsHD MA display where the sorround mode display is and was expecting the Dolby TrueHD display to be there on the 3808. I guess its different with 3808.

UPDATE - I read the manual some more and found that the sorround mode must be set to standard so it can display Dolby TrueHD on the sorround mode display. It also makes a lot of difference on the sound output! It did not sound as good as this when only the small Dolby TrueHD icon (on the decoder indicator) is on.

I've been able to do all updates with UPnP enabled on my router. Have found situation between updates, though, where I've had to reset my IP settings as resets have "broken" the network. I shut off DHCP and hardcode all IP settings just to be safe.

I'm not understanding what your saying about the Denon getting DTS HD MA added via firmware. I understand it as, the Denon can receive both TruHD and DTS HD MA decoded or bitstream. Either way, the Denon is set up to handle anything. Am I missing something?

And yes, the PS3 is great for streaming things. So far, I've only got my two computers set up to the PS3 via wifi and streaming music, videos and pictures to the PS3 is a lot more interesting and fun to play with than I though. I'm sure the Netflix thing would be awesome also, I may have to look into that.

Just got this beast and was going to do an update before installing into my system. I reinitialized and tried to do an update per the web pages - but in Option Setup there is No Firmware update. I have a good hard wired ethernet connection and can ping the Denon? Anyone experienced this?

How is upscaling of NTSC and PAL? I am thinking about buying Oppo, but not sure which one to get. 980 model is capable of outputting 480i/576i through HDMI, so I thought that I can use 980 as transport and Denon can upscale to 720p. 981 has Faroudja chip and is known of great video upscaling and everybody recommends 981 for projectors and also if I need player for PAL playback. But why would I pay extra money for another Faroudja chip if I have one in 3808? The tech support guy from Oppo said their unit has great chip with excellent software, the software is what important but he was not sure about what Denon had. I don't Denon would have worse chip than Oppo 981. So I am confused a but about it. Also, can Denon pass native PAL signal through HDMI to projector without converting to NTSC? Projector is native NTSC/PAL and I don't see any reasons to convert original PAL to NTSC.

Well I don't have any of these devices. I guess I will have to find the way around to hook up my computer to 3808 and watch videos.

Ordered the 18th, got it the 22nd.

I've had my desktop hooked up to my old Denon 2807 via a DVI-HDMI cable I got from monoprice. That worked. I also had it hooked up DVI-HDMI from desktop to my tv and digital coax to the 2807 and that worked. If your computer is close enough to your Denon, if your computer has a DVI output and if this is an easier way for you than racking your brain on getting streaming working via ethernet it just may work for ya. My desktop computer is about 16 feet from my home theater so it's not really something I did all the time, just every once in a while. Food for thought though.

You might want to review first post 3808/4308/5308 firmware tracking thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=995566

It's got to be the way going forward rather then a bunch of disks laying around.

I think the PS3 has some limitations currently with format output. Electronleaker can maybe enlighten us

I've only played home videos of my kids from my computers via wifi through the PS3 to the Denon. I tried putting one of my burnt movies on my desktop (originally burned as a .ts file) but I'm having some troubles I'm working through now with it.

1) I can't even get my desktop to play a movie I previously burnt that I put on the computers hard drive. Plays straight from the disk fine but without the disk my desktop doesn't like .ts files I guess.

2) Need to find a program to change my .ts dvd's (about 600) to something that will play on the PS3 and on my computer.

These are the types of files playable on the PS3 that I could find:

http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...filetypes.html

Those members trying the VTech game - skip the Denon, go directly to the TV.

My children's Leapster game looks like a 200 x 200 matrix, well below 480p. But it works perfectly straight to the Sony KDL-40W3000 LCD. I use the TV remote to select the input.

But yeah, you'll have to pull your monitor off the wall to reach those composite hookups.

My 3808 is on the UPS truck ready for delivery today.

I searched the thread but couldn't find the answer to this question.

Can I check & install firmware w/o being connected to a monitor or display (ie. no GUI)?

I wanted to take care of the firmware matter before I install the unit.

I don't have an Ethernet port (yet) in my 'theater'; hence my question.

Thanks . . . . .

This 3808 is my first HDMI receiver so this may be a very dumb question. Can the HDMI from the 3808 to a TV (Samsung HL-T5687) carry audio BACK to the receiver? I watch OTA sometimes and would like to have the audio off the 3808. I know I can do it with the optical out, but just wondered if the HDMI was bidirectional in this manner? I have not found a setting that might permit this.

No, that HDMI on your TV is a receiver only.

Here's a link to a forum that may answer your Q on a program to convert .ts files to other formats.

http://www.epic.dk/convert_dreambox_...vd_or_mpeg.php

Ethernet connection to network needed for firmware update.

See Denon firmware instruction links first post of Denon 3808/4308/5308 firmware tracking thread. You questions are answered in those instructions.

You may be able to use just the receiver display to perform the update.

I'm a proud new owner of the 3808CI. I also got a new sub yesterday (Velodyne DD-12). I personally am liking the remote so far, and the GUI is awesome. I didn't play with my new toys too much last night because I was watching hockey (Avalanche beat the Flames in overtime). Also, I'm waiting on monoprice to send me a longer network cable, so I haven't done any firmware updates. So far, it's great.

Geoff

I got an Ethernet connection in my office that I plan to use for the f/w update. Upon reading the the f/w thread and instructions it appears that status is on the 3808 'FL Display'; so the GUI isn't needed.

Thanks for the reply.

Yes think I remember reading another owner did the update without hooking up a monitor. The FL display is still 'GUI' just not as nice as monitor display

Hi,
somebody connected a PC to the AVR3808.
I want to play JPEGs/movies/MP3 on my PC, connected via the 3808 to the TV. Is this possible? My PC graph card has an additional SVideo output which I want to use (no additional HDMI output that I can use. Can I use the VCR/Ipod input on the 3808 or what is recommended?