The "Official" Denon AVR-3808CI Thread - Page 220

Originally Posted by SledgeHammer

Hey guys,

I have a Sony VHS VCR I'm trying to hook up to my AVR-3808CI. No, I don't use it very often, just once in a blue moon . Anyways, has anyone gotten a VCR to work with this thing? I have it plugged in via RCA L/R/V and the AVR goes to the TV by HDMI alone. If the VCR is stopped, I can see its gray screen and I can see its menus correctly, but as soon as I try to play the tape, the HDMI goes "No Signal" on my TV. The VCR and tape play perfectly if I hook it up to my old Sony 27" Trinitron. I tried turning off the i/p scaler thinking it couldn't handle the VCR signal, but then I couldn't get a signal at all... I'm thinking the TV doesn't accept 480i over HDMI.

What to do? What to do?

I'm not interested in buying a DVD / VCR combo as I have a very good DVD player, and I'm not interested in investing another dime in either obsolete technology (DVDs and VCRs).

Considering I paid all this money for an AVR that was supposed to scale analog sources, you'd think it would work .

Originally Posted by SledgeHammer

Hey guys,

I have a Sony VHS VCR I'm trying to hook up to my AVR-3808CI. No, I don't use it very often, just once in a blue moon . Anyways, has anyone gotten a VCR to work with this thing? I have it plugged in via RCA L/R/V and the AVR goes to the TV by HDMI alone. If the VCR is stopped, I can see its gray screen and I can see its menus correctly, but as soon as I try to play the tape, the HDMI goes "No Signal" on my TV. The VCR and tape play perfectly if I hook it up to my old Sony 27" Trinitron. I tried turning off the i/p scaler thinking it couldn't handle the VCR signal, but then I couldn't get a signal at all... I'm thinking the TV doesn't accept 480i over HDMI.

What to do? What to do?

I'm not interested in buying a DVD / VCR combo as I have a very good DVD player, and I'm not interested in investing another dime in either obsolete technology (DVDs and VCRs).

Considering I paid all this money for an AVR that was supposed to scale analog sources, you'd think it would work .

Originally Posted by dgersic

Easy way: Grab the second remote (the one without the screen). Push the Zone button on the top until the LED lands on Zone 2. Select your source for Zone 2 with the buttons.

That's just a matter of wiring.

You'll have to select the same source for both zones. You can do this with either remote, or using both of them, or the web interface.

I can't think of a way to automagically select the same source for both zones.

Originally Posted by Tom C

I have the Sony SLV-N750 vcr (3 years old) hooked up the same way to my 3808ci and then to my Sony KD-36XS955 via HDMI. The picture displays 480i just fine, the vcr menu won't display. My HR20-700S DirecTV HD+DVR is set to pass the picture through HDMI without any scaling and 480i displays fine. I seldom use my vcr as well and generally don't check to see what my display is recieving, so I'll have to check my facts tonight, but I'm sure there's no problem with 480i.

Originally Posted by Don't h8

What kind of TV is the 3808 plugged in to? Some tvs won't accept 480i over HDMI...case in point: my 42" Sammy plasma will not accept 480i over HDMI, however my 60" pio will accept it.

As for scaling analog sources, is the i/p scaler set to "on"? If it is not, then it is just pass-through and you are likely getting 480i in and 480i out. If you use the scaler, then the tv is not getting a 480i signal and I've been of absolutely no help.

Originally Posted by Bmfr79

Finally received the 3808CI on Thursday and the 2nd one from 6ave is not damaged. I set it up that night and have been enjoying it since. The original firmware was 1.57 and I updated the firmware to 1.69 via a crossover cable to my wireless router and had no problems. So far so good, I'm just hanging out until the new speakers come in, I'm afraid to blow the old ones. The only thing that is strange is that I feel like I am turning the Denon to a higher volume than I would have with the old receiver. Although there is no way to validate this as the old receive just had a volume knob and no display of Db to measure. I wonder if it could be that the old speakers just can't handle the Denon and I have to turn it up more, hmm.........

Originally Posted by myrison

I totally agree... I was very pleasantly surprised with the upscaling after all of the talk about how it is inferior. (and it probably is, but I guess without having seen the direct comparison I feel more than happy with the 3808's abilities.

Originally Posted by technik

Anybody notice on page 36 of the addendum sheet, the "Add new feature" section has now added " New functions (payment required) which can be purchased for downloading to the AVR-3808CI and upgrade?!? Seems Denon is going to be looking for other revenue streams from us huh. Interesting

Originally Posted by Todd Scott

Yep. A few of us have noticed. Denon said there was a spring/summer update with a feature download coming. It'll be interesting to see what they offer.

Originally Posted by schernov

Hi.
Just received a 3808ci in the mail from Dakmart. Refirb one.

Started to set it up. Everything works well so far, except I cannot get it on my network. I am a computer engineer myself and just spent 4 hours screwing around with it.

I can get a DHCP address on my laptop, no problem. However, the receiver will not pick up DHCP. Even if I hard code it, still does not connect either with or without a reservation in the DHCP scope.
I use a straight cat 5 cable to the wall, as any PC would use.

I tried 2 different routers (Belkin and Dlink).

Please help.

Originally Posted by jmonier

This happens with the latest firmware update in certain cases. The only solution appears to be a Master Reset which means you have to redo all your options.

Originally Posted by SledgeHammer

I have a Panasonic TH-50PF9UK (the 50" 1080p model from last year). It actually has a DVI-D input (only way to get 1080p into it). So I'm going from the AVR-3808CI to the Panasonic through a HDMI -> DVI-D cable.

I think it is an issue with the scaler in the AVR-3808CI, because I hear the audio going. If I turn the scaling off completely, I get "No Signal" on my TV. If I turn it on, I just get the blank screen.

Originally Posted by gamedog44

I have just joined the forum and want to say hello to everybody.The information from this forum has really helped me.I am very pleased with my 3808ci.I am using a Sony bravia XBR4 lcd monitor,Sony up-convert dvd player and also run my cable through the 3808 all via Monster 1000 HDMI cables.I think the video is exellent.The audio is played through 6 JBL Studio L series speakers.L890's up front,LC2 center,L820's surround and L8400P 600 watt subwoofer.I have not the time to buy and compare the Onkyo 805 or 875 but I can tell you this: At -10db the Denon 3808 has my house shaking !!

Originally Posted by Neurorad

I'm betting one of the downloadable upgrades will be to allow reception of Sirius, and for HD Radio reception of FM digital.

Check out the usa.denon.com product updates page for a peak at what other components can get.
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Anyone have experience with the ASD-3W Denon iPod/Networking Client Dock with WiFi? Is WEP encryption a problem? Did you update the ASD-3W Firmware (instructions at usa.denon.com)?

Originally Posted by ruarmani

I like 3808, first of all, it is a great receiver. Secondly, I have a question. Is it possible to turn i/p scaler off only for one input source? For example, what if I want DVD player not to be upscaled, but other sources be upscaled. So far I could only turn the scaler off for all inputs.

Originally Posted by ThePrisoner

I was wondering the same thing. As you described, I belive it has to on or off for all inputs. I wanted to use the scaler for my Wii.

Originally Posted by garypen

Yes. You can enable/disable scaling for each video input. I forget how, off-hand. (I'm 6000 miles from home.) But, if you look through the menu/setup screens, you will find it. (HDMI maybe??? Video???)

Originally Posted by Rolfie

I use Linux on my music/photo server, but I think I recall reading that the Mac follows the same path: you have to purchase Twonkyvision. There's was a discount coupon for this in the AVR-3808CI box. I think it was about $30. With the latest version, mine seems to be working fine. I only wish I could store playlists as presets on the 3808; individual track presets don't cut it.

Originally Posted by Todd Scott

I'm not sure why you need Twonky. I enabled file sharing for my music folder and I can access all my music MP3's and WMA files except itunes DRM protected audio, through the 3808 (couldn't get Twonky to access the itunes DRM audio either). Twonky will not automatically restart after the computer has been shut off and for me that was a deal breaker. Although leaving my computer on is not too convenient either, I've been looking at the QNAP TS-109 to use as a media file server and backup unit for all my computers in the house. Uses about 7 watts in standby and Twonky is built in as well.

Originally Posted by BH13

Todd Scott,

Thanks for the replies regarding streaming with a Mac. Just so I am sure I understand, you are saying you have no problem doing this with the mac OS? Which program do you use to allow file sharing, QuickTime? Forgive me if I'm way off base, but I have little to no experience with the Mac OS. I just like the idea that they are a lot less vulnerable to viruses, etc., and that they're computers are just way cooler than PCs.

It looks like I may have to purchase a program like parallels or VM Fusion because I need access to the Philips Pronto software that is Windows compatible only, at least from what I can find. All in all, I'm trying to figure out how to make a Mac compatible with a PS3 media streaming, the 3808, and the ProntoPro Software. I also plan to use SqueezeCenter from LogiTech to talk to the remote through a pronto application that will allow me to control music streams through the remote (and show all album art etc. on the remote, pretty cool!).

The tough thing has been finding out if I can make all this work with a Mac. If I could buy one for a month risk free and give it a shot, that would be great. But I don't think they're going to let me do that.

Originally Posted by Todd Scott

Twonky will not automatically restart after the computer has been shut off and for me that was a deal breaker.

Originally Posted by mtsag

On my system Twonky restarts fine.

Originally Posted by bwclark

No, you cannot....you can only disable Video Convert, ie composite to component; component to HDMI, etc. If disabled, then component will go to component and not be converted to HDMI. The scaling is separate and is not selectable for each input.

You could have i/p on, but select A to H then only analog to HDMI will be scaled, while HDMI to HDMI will not.

Got that?