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post #121 of 2094
RT -

The pics look great. One thing...you say the electric is done, but it doesnt look like the romex is stapled properly. I can see that it is stapled within 6" of the boxes, but it also needs to be stapled along the studs (particularly in the stairs pic). Maybe it's just the timing of the pics?

Tom

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post #122 of 2094
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

RT -

The pics look great. One thing...you say the electric is done, but it doesnt look like the romex is stapled properly. I can see that it is stapled within 6" of the boxes, but it also needs to be stapled along the studs (particularly in the stairs pic). Maybe it's just the timing of the pics?

Tom

Good Eye!

Yes the romex has been properly stapled along the stud(s) and I appreciate the heads up on that.

In the theater area I am currently double checking staples and putting the metal plates up on the 2 x 4's where the romex goes through the center of the stud. Just as I think I have gotten all of them I see one or two that need attention and then I start the whole looking process over again due to paranoia!

Regards,

RTROSE
post #123 of 2094
HA! So I'm not the only one who is paranoid...
post #124 of 2094
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HA! So I'm not the only one who is paranoid...

No you are not alone. Others are watching er ah I mean others can appreciate our paranoia.

I think a little paranoia is a good thing but unfortunately right now I have to watch what I say and do because at this very moment there are "black helicopters" hovering about and I know they are trying to intercept my communications and are using high frequency waves to influence my thoughts. Sorry got to go just ran out of aluminum foil.......

Regards,

RTROSE
post #125 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Hello all,

Just a quick post so my build doesn't get lost 20 some odd pages back. As my signature shows currently my build is on "Pause". I have been busy with some other projects around the house namely replacing our "contractor grade" interior doors with solid wood six panel doors. This "upgrade" sure adds to the looks of the interior of our home and there is a definitely a different "feel" to the solid doors but boy o boy is it a pain and opens up a can o worms regarding how the builder initially put the doors in. Who would have thought that my wife would have gotten "upgradeitis" before me.

My father-in-law has been a great help but we have had to be creative in some aspects and as always in home remodeling projects have discovered that there is nothing in my house (except MY construction in the basement) that is plumb or square.

I am also working on building a loft bed for my youngest so this is also taking time away from the basement. I'm very hopeful that in a week or two I can get back to the basement full speed ahead. The one good thing about my build being on pause is I have had time to look at a couple of things in the basement and determine my original plan may have been flawed slightly. This is mostly regarding outlet placement and a couple of other small details that are much easier to fix at this stage vs. making the same realization after is is all said and done.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #126 of 2094
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Originally Posted by topak View Post

you may need some home remodeling services.

Ha! Little far from Denver area and the whole reason I am DIY is for the $$$$ savings and I want to say I DID IT (even if I'm slow)!! If I were to hire anything out to be done it would be for all of the Honey Do's I have been doing for about two months!

I appreciate you pointing me in the right direction though!

Regards,

RTROSE
post #127 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Sheesh!

I feel so used and violated and in my OWN thread too! Should have known better.

topak you have been reported as a spammer hope your short life on AVS was fun.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #128 of 2094
Thread Starter 
A quick update,

Well it has been roughly four months since I have set foot in the basement for the purpose of doing anything constructive down there. I have finished replacing all of my interior doors in my house, built a loft bed for my youngest, and some other miscellaneous odds and ends around the house these past few months along with other summer commitments which left me with little to no spare time and also "burnt out" on the whole construction thing.

I am ashamed to admit when I went down there today I had to spend a few minutes reacquainting myself to my project and reorganizing just to work more efficiently.

I spent the majority of time cleaning up and getting rid of cob webs galore that had taken over my space. I realized I needed to double check all of my electrical runs and realized there were several that I needed to staple in several additional locations to tighten things up a bit. I also was in the process of putting the cable guards up when I ran out. I bought a box of 100 and thought I would have plenty. Wrong! I was running out of time anyway so it wasn't too big of a deal.

In the next few days I'll finish up putting up the rest of the cable protectors and then I'll progress to actually running cables!

Oh and thanks to Staffy I'll be coming up with an idea to quiet all of my can lights either by silicone or electrical tape to eliminate the possibility of rattling.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #129 of 2094
Glad you're back to it! It took the basement flood for me to really get cleaned up and organized and, yes, re-dedicated. I've been trying to do a little something at least twice a week at night and SOMETHING on the weekend.

Just take it a little at a time and it'll get done.
post #130 of 2094
I find that when I get to a particular project that I've mentally solved and now just need to do, I tend to be more productive. It's when I'm standing in the basement trying to figurie out what to do next that I don't get anything done. Small bite size chunks. The downside is that you don't see or feel the huge steps forward like when framing goes up.
post #131 of 2094
Try silicone first Tape might heat up and relax over time. We even took the junction coverplate off and siliconed that, then snapped it into place.

I am making super slow progress on drywall as I am in the middle of trying to finish a book, so you will catch up in no time
post #132 of 2094
Enjoyed the thread! I'll agree with others...consistency is the key. Even if ever so little, getting "something" done twice a week will eventually add up and surprise you! Best of luck.
post #133 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Staffy,

Thanks for the tip regarding the electrical tape relaxing over time. I wasn't even thinking about that possibility but you are absolutely correct.

logan, staffy, cathan, tony,

I am just going to try to commit to working in the basement a couple of times a week now for the simple reason most of my commitments and honey-do's for the summer have been completed and now I can focus again on the basement.

I just need not get bogged down looking at the whole project and seeing a lack of progress. I just need to look at all of the "little things" and check one thing off at a time and be happy with the progress as I complete each small step.

Thanks for the encouragement guys!

Regards,

RTROSE
post #134 of 2094
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Well I spent the holiday (Thanks Mr. Christopher Columbus) working in the basement. Had the opportunity to spend about 7 whole quality hours "down there". Finished wire stapling and putting up metal wire guards all over the place so I could move onto running some cables.

I thought it prudent to check my HDMI cables before running them through the walls because I figured my luck I would run them button everything up and then find there was a problem. Both worked just fine so no worries there. The two HDMI cables I have are really stiff and I'm a little concerned how well they will "stuff into" the boxes I have mounted for all my video cables. I did leave a lot of wiggle room with the cables for just that reason so I should be OK. I just may have to get a little creative with the cable management.

My overall plan is to have two different areas in the basement one the dedicated HT the other is the kids hangout/media room. My plan includes running the necessary cables HDMI, component cables with a plan for running cables in the future and then running HDMI, component/audio, composite/audio to the kids area. The main viewing in the kids area will be with SD dish over composite and RCA cables for audio with the receiver in the equipment rack in the HT. The HDMI, component cables are for the main receiver in the HT. The kids area will be served with by a separate HTIB such as an Onkyo 5100 and a upconvert DVD player, and assorted game consoles. I have planned on having the additional cables to use the main receiver in the HT to pass along any hi def sources either through the component or HDMI cables from the main receiver turning the tv in the kids area into a mirror of what is being watched in the HT. Basically the kids area will have two options watch the source in the HT or independently watch dish or their own DVD.

If this explanation makes sense let me know if the idea is sound or if it doesn't make sense or is not a sound idea let me know.

I also remembered that I have got to move an outlet in the workout area. I pulled a boneheaded move and put the outlet in the wrong area. Always something to fix or modify.

I am just happy the electrical is done and I'm moving on to something different.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #135 of 2094
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Well just as I thought my honey do's were over we got the custom wood in to replace the last of the old wood work in the entry way between the rooms downstairs. So more sanding, staining, polyurethaneing to take me away from my theater work.

When this adventure started (the doors) I had only thought it would take a mater of weeks to get it all done not several months to complete. Plus in replacing one of the door ways I discovered that what was supposed to be 2 x 6 construction isn't and this has caused me a huge headache in using drywall mud to build out the wall so the edge of the wood matches the edge of the wall. I am hoping to be done (and my wife is requesting) all of this be done before Thanksgiving due to the celebration being at our house.

I have put my foot down and (Staffy you would be proud) told my wife there would no new home projects or honey do's until I get the basement much further along or completed. She has agreed (mostly because she is tired of the drywall dust and my air compressor sitting in the living room) with me a switch for sure but I think she is tired of the main area of the house being in a constant state of disarray.

I have done some little things around the basement and have gotten some additional cables cut to length and pulled. I do have a question regarding how I ran some subwoofer cable. I'll post a pic later and see what you all think.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #136 of 2094
While it can be nice to have a deadline to help move the project along, it sure does add stress. I'm grateful that the wife hasn't added any extra stress.

Anyway, I wish you luck. Post more photos.
post #137 of 2094
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Originally Posted by Cathan View Post

While it can be nice to have a deadline to help move the project along, it sure does add stress. I'm grateful that the wife hasn't added any extra stress.

Anyway, I wish you luck. Post more photos.

I agree with you that a dead line is a good thing and a motivator but alas does add stress to a somewhat stressful situation.

I don't ever like to take on too many projects at once and I think with all that I have done over the last few months has just about put me at my limit.

I'll get this one last project finished up and then I can get back to focusing on the HT.

I guess the reality of home ownership is there is typically always something to do maybe just not owner induced projects.


Regards,

RTROSE
post #138 of 2094
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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post

I agree with you that a dead line is a good thing and a motivator but alas does add stress to a somewhat stressful situation.

I don't ever like to take on too many projects at once and I think with all that I have done over the last few months has just about put me at my limit.

I'll get this one last project finished up and then I can get back to focusing on the HT.

I guess the reality of home ownership is there is typically always something to do maybe just not owner induced projects.

Thankfully we only tend to have one major project at a time... I guess it helps having new construction. No major 'breakage' or wear and tear projects (yet).

The fence was a biggish project (Spring '06), Painting the interiror of the house was a big project (Winter '06)... the patio was a big project (Spring '07)... the basement was for '08. Besides general landscaping upkeep, we've been generally undistracted, amazingly.
post #139 of 2094
RT -

Glad you're back at it and making some progress. A little goes a long way. I found that life gets in the way. But I am getting tired of waching movies on the 34" HD TV. And I'm really afraid that if I set up my outdoor projector in the living room again this winter, I'll NEVER get back in the basement!

Keep plugging away at it!
post #140 of 2094
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and the new.......





Hey RTROSE, just stopping by to check out your basement project. Noticed these pics and they make me a bit nervous. I was told romex in conduit is a big no-no - it overheats and is a fire hazard. Only unsheathed cable is allowed in conduit, but I know there is some debate about that, and you might be able to get away with romex if there is enough airspace left. But it really looks like there is way too much romex in that conduit of yours. Has this been through an inspection? Maybe you could clarify what's happening in these pics so I don't have to worry for you.
post #141 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Hey sugarbeth,

Not to worry I had a licensed electrician do the work and everything checks out ok. I appreciate your concern though. My electrician made no mention of having issues or problems with romex in the plastic conduit.

Just to clarify these are my new circuit runs from my existing breaker box to the basement remodel and to leave you even less worried about the conduit the romex only runs about 15 or so feet before it goes into the basement and not all the circuits will be active at once.

Thanks for helping my post back onto the front page. It needs to see the lime light every once in a while. Lord knows I don't post enough (work enough) on my own theater to get it on the front page.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #142 of 2094
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Originally Posted by indygreg View Post

i am thinking south central...seymour?

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Just noticed this thread today. I never thought I would see someone mention Seymour, IN on the AVS Forum!

I'll be watching this thread with interest. I had the home theater room framed three years ago and I plan on starting on it after the first of the year. My problem is I plan forever......
post #143 of 2094
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Originally Posted by Tom J. Davis View Post

Just noticed this thread today. I never thought I would see someone mention Seymour, IN on the AVS Forum!

I'll be watching this thread with interest. I had the home theater room framed three years ago and I plan on starting on it after the first of the year. My problem is I plan forever......

I know what you mean about the planning. Currently I have had the money but not the time. Now I seem to have the time but not the money.

I have spent the last seven months doing odd jobs around the house and now it is finally back to concentrating on the theater.

Yeah you sure don't see Seymour or Indiana in general for that matter mentioned much here on AVS. Lots of guys on the East coast/West coast though. So it is up to us here in fly over country to show'em how it's done here in "corn country" Yeeee Haawwwww!
post #144 of 2094
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Yeah you sure don't see Seymour or Indiana in general for that matter mentioned much here on AVS. Lots of guys on the East coast/West coast though. So it is up to us here in fly over country to show'em how it's done here in "corn country" Yeeee Haawwwww!

HAHA! At this point I'd just be happy to start on it!

I was going to start my own thread but figured I'd get "Loganed" before I ever hammered the first nail! How sad is that?
post #145 of 2094
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HAHA! At this point I'd just be happy to start on it!

I was going to start my own thread but figured I'd get "Loganed" before I ever hammered the first nail! How sad is that?

That is pretty bad, but be careful about being Loganed it can have some strange side effects. After being Loganed I actually SLOWED DOWN. If you get Loganed before you even start you might be doomed from the beginning.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #146 of 2094
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That is pretty bad, but be careful about being Loganed it can have some strange side effects. After being Loganed I actually SLOWED DOWN. If you get Loganed before you even start you might be doomed from the beginning.

Regards,

RTROSE

I was under the impression that it was practically a guarantee that you slow to the speed of molasses in the dead of winter surrounded by dry ice when you get loganed. .
post #147 of 2094
You guys make me chuckle.

It's nice to be feared.
post #148 of 2094
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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post

Hey sugarbeth,

Thanks for helping my post back onto the front page. It needs to see the lime light every once in a while. Lord knows I don't post enough (work enough) on my own theater to get it on the front page.

Regards,

RTROSE

Not to sound like a geezer, but I remember when I was first starting my thread when active threads stayed on the top page for days, sometimes even a week or more. Now-a-days with all these youngn's and their new fangle build threads, stuff gets buried in only a few hours.
post #149 of 2094
Logan found me. I'm doomed............



Sorry RTROSE. I'll quit de-railing your thread now.
post #150 of 2094
Just a little thread CPR. I see posts in other threads but this baby needs some life pumped into it. The electrical rough in photos from months ago are gettting a little boring.

what's up doc???
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