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post #1771 of 2094
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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post

Hey!
I just realized that I missed my own thread anniversary. It was five years ago on 6/14/2007 that I began my build thread. Five years boys! Five years! Hard to believe it has been that long of a journey.

Seems like it takes forever to get it completed, but when in hindsight, it just flies by. I can't believe I'm on number 2.0 already. Hopefully I don't see 3.0 anytime soon. smile.gif Congrats!

Bud

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post #1772 of 2094
Thread Starter 
^^^^^

I hear you. I do not think a theater is ever truly completed. I think that while the major stuff is over, it continues to slowly "evolve" through tinkering, upgradeitis, and small additions until you hit that eventuality where you understand that you will need to go to that 2.0 (or 3.0) point to get it to where you really want it. Hopefully I am a ways away from that point! I still have some little things to do, but as of right now I'm enjoying it to the fullest extent. Mrs. RTROSE has made some suggestions already for 2.0, but right now I'm just ignoring her! biggrin.gif

Regards,

RTROSE
post #1773 of 2094
Haven't checked back here in a long time, very nice job. It's always nice to see visions from before & after. Hope you're now enjoying it! smile.gif
post #1774 of 2094
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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post

^^^^^
I hear you. I do not think a theater is ever truly completed. I think that while the major stuff is over, it continues to slowly "evolve" through tinkering, upgradeitis, and small additions until you hit that eventuality where you understand that you will need to go to that 2.0 (or 3.0) point to get it to where you really want it. Hopefully I am a ways away from that point! I still have some little things to do, but as of right now I'm enjoying it to the fullest extent. Mrs. RTROSE has made some suggestions already for 2.0, but right now I'm just ignoring her! biggrin.gif
Regards,
RTROSE

I can't see my wife ever making suggestions for 2.0. She's just praying for the day 1.0 is finished.

May parents asked me today what movie will be selected for the premier. I told them I would have to see what was current when I finally get around to finishing, while they suggested I pick a "classic". I told them movies that were current when I started my build are now considered classics.
post #1775 of 2094
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I can't see my wife ever making suggestions for 2.0. She's just praying for the day 1.0 is finished.
May parents asked me today what movie will be selected for the premier. I told them I would have to see what was current when I finally get around to finishing, while they suggested I pick a "classic". I told them movies that were current when I started my build are now considered classics.

That is funny right there! Actually more sad than funny now that I think about it! biggrin.gif Only because I now exactly what you mean.

I thought long and hard about my "Premier" but as my theater came together in steps and I would "throw something on" to check or test this or that I guess I had several "mini premiers". I think actually the first movie I actually watched from beginning to end for the sake of just watching a movie was "Dolphin Tale". Good movie, but not the block buster one would think to use. rolleyes.gif

I will say Mrs RTROSE was in your wife's camp for a while with the "do you ever think this thing will be done" or "I can't wait till this thing is done so I can stop hearing you obsessing over it". Now it's great as she is in the "hey what do you want to watch tonight?" camp. I'll tell you brother that is a great camp to be in. biggrin.gif

Regards,

RTROSE
post #1776 of 2094
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I told them movies that were current when I started my build are now considered classics.

I think they're remaking movies that were current when I started.
post #1777 of 2094
Logan,

Does this mean we are about to see a Wizard of Oz II ?
smile.gif
post #1778 of 2094
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Originally Posted by spaceman 
I told them movies that were current when I started my build are now considered classics.
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 
I think they're remaking movies that were current when I started.
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Originally Posted by cuzed2 
Logan, Does this mean we are about to see a Wizard of Oz II? smile.gif

Er, you mean 'The Wizard of Oz Reboot', right? Several sequels to 'The Wizard of Oz' already exist: Journey Back to Oz (the 'official' sequel) and Return to Oz (the 'unofficial' sequel).

I'm pretty sure Logan started after 'Journey Back to Oz' and 'Return to Oz' were released, but I have been wrong before... smile.gif
post #1779 of 2094
Wrong, wrong and WRONG!

BIrth Of A Nation is due to be remade any day now.
post #1780 of 2094
Old is just a state of mind when you're super heroes like you guys.

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post #1781 of 2094
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Old is just a state of mind when you're super heroes like you guys.
old_superheroes05.jpg


BEST. Picture. Ever!
post #1782 of 2094
Hanes - your avatar needs to be the 4th superhero in that photo smile.gif
post #1783 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Ah, I feel so, so, er, ah um, blessed, yes that's what I feel......blessed as Hanes makes an appearance and posts an absolutely perfect picture! He still has it ladies and gentleman, I don't know what he has but he still has it!

Regards,

RTROSE
post #1784 of 2094
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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post

^^^^^
I hear you. I do not think a theater is ever truly completed. I think that while the major stuff is over, it continues to slowly "evolve" through tinkering, upgradeitis, and small additions until you hit that eventuality where you understand that you will need to go to that 2.0 (or 3.0) point to get it to where you really want it. Hopefully I am a ways away from that point! I still have some little things to do, but as of right now I'm enjoying it to the fullest extent. Mrs. RTROSE has made some suggestions already for 2.0, but right now I'm just ignoring her! biggrin.gif
Regards,
RTROSE

Well said! I'm in this phase too and it's great. A couple months to enjoy the fruits of my labor and now my life has calmed down enough to get back in there to work a little bit!
post #1785 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Well well well,

Been awhile since I have visited my own thread. Got some non theater, theater updates to pass along. Some of you old timers may remember a HVAC conversation oh say at least a year or maybe even two ago. I had entertained some estimates from several contractors and gotten several estimates I think ranging from about 3.5k for an A/C only setup to over 10K for a top of the line high efficiency system.

After a couple of seasons of limping my system along I finally had to admit to myself (and my bank account) I could not limp along and band-aid fix my current system any longer. During the stretch of 100+ degree heat the first part of July my A/C unit ran for 50+ hours nonstop. In the afternoons the temp in my house would get to 78-79 degrees and it would be back down to 72-73 by morning with the thermostat set on 70. I finally set the thermostat on 75 to give my system a break during the morning hours.


Here is my old Trane system.






According to my HVAC guru my furnace while old and inefficient was still working and was adequate but just old. My A/C unit was undersized to begin with so I was fighting an uphill battle even when the system was new. The furnace when new was 80% efficient and the A/C was the equivalent of a 5 or 6 seer unit.

My new Carrier Infinity system






The furnace is a 96%+ efficient system with a 3 ton 21 seer A/C unit.

I did move the A/c unit from the side of the house to the back. If I had wanted to keep the same location of the previous A/C unit that would have necessitated doing some creative removal of drywall of the soffit area in the finished portion of the basement. Obviously a last resort. The new location enabled the installers to run the new lines through the unfinished storage space and decrease the distance of the lines increasing efficiency and more importantly reducing cost as the run was shorter. Of course a new programmable thermostat was part of the package. After a two day install I can say this is a very good system that is well matched to my home. My house is actually cooler with the temperature set a couple of degrees higher than on the older system and it has no issues keeping the house at the preset temperature during the heat of the day. So far I'm impressed. I have yet to get a electric bill with the new system, but I'm expecting to see quite a big reduction in my electric bill. I can tell you it was a lot more fun spending money on theater equipment than it was on the HVAC system, but at least I'm cool now.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #1786 of 2094
RT,

Thanks for the unrelated HVAC update.
I am where you were two years ago. I have an older pilot light gas furnace, and an overworked 10 seer AC unit. This thing has been keeping up, but I fear I am on borrowed time with this combo.
I assume that your new system is using the new Freon 22 replacement, I think Carrier calls it Puron?
Will also be interested to know well it cuts your electric bill?
post #1787 of 2094
Thread Starter 
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RT,
Thanks for the unrelated HVAC update.
I am where you were two years ago. I have an older pilot light gas furnace, and an overworked 10 seer AC unit. This thing has been keeping up, but I fear I am on borrowed time with this combo.
I assume that your new system is using the new Freon 22 replacement, I think Carrier calls it Puron?
Will also be interested to know well it cuts your electric bill?

Yes the coolant/refrigerant is called Puron not sure if it is exclusive to Carrier or not. I too am very curious to see how much my electric bill goes down. My neighbor around the corner had pretty much the same setup as I did and put in a system basically the same as mine last year (except I think his A/C is slightly less efficient than mime) and he noted about a 30% decrease in his bill right off the bat. He noted an even bigger savings for his gas bill. Oh the things to look forward too.

Like you said borrowed time is good, but it comes at a cost as well. My estimates were several hundred dollars more expensive this time around vs. last years estimates. I can only guess fuel, equipment, and copper prices are the reason for the increase across the board.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #1788 of 2094
RT -

Looks nice! You should definitely see a reduction in your gas/electric bill.

I figure that the electric and gas company should be paying ME by now. I got a 30% reduction for my new AC/furnace, a 40% reduction for all new windows, 10 -15% here and there each for new appliances... they should be paying ME by now.
post #1789 of 2094
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

RT -
Looks nice! You should definitely see a reduction in your gas/electric bill.
I figure that the electric and gas company should be paying ME by now. I got a 30% reduction for my new AC/furnace, a 40% reduction for all new windows, 10 -15% here and there each for new appliances... they should be paying ME by now.

Logan,
Let us know when you get their first check smile.gif
post #1790 of 2094
Congrats RT. You may recall from back in the Middle Ages that I was forced to replace my furnace (but not AC unit) when the old one sputtered and died on me in the midst of my basement renovation. I also popped for a bit more expensive 95% energy efficient Bryant furnace, and really hoped to see significant reductions in my heating bill, especially with also adding new windows throughout the basement and insulating all of it for the first time.

While I haven't done a formal recap, I have to say I haven't noticed any 'wow, my power bill has been much lower since then!' type of result. I suppose to be fair I am now heating/cooling about 33% more finished space than before due to the renovation, so perhaps that is a victory in itself. I hope you'll really see the difference since you're adding it to a static situation in terms of the space being cooled/heated.
post #1791 of 2094
What's this!!! a Hanes response with no photos or animations?????????????
post #1792 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Yeah I know.....With all of the high efficiency what nots in my house I should be PRODUCING energy I could sell back. I did receive rebates from the gas and electric companies for installing high efficiency equipment which was a nice bonus. So I guess in a way they did pay me even if it was just a little bit of what I have given them throughout the years.

Pictures or not Hanes I'm just glad you showed up. I can see your point in your situation with regard to the energy bills, but as you stated I am in a slightly different situation than you. Funny thing is as I brought the basement on line I did not notice a particular jump in any of my utilities but I was not really looking/watching for it like I am now. I'm sure that I did have some increases in my bills it would only make sense that they would go up. I can say though that my basement is far better insulated than the rest of the house in many regards so I can see in doing that it would reduce the overall impact each way.

Regards

RTROSE
post #1793 of 2094
RT, does your system have the variable speed fan that is always on?
post #1794 of 2094
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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post

Pictures or not Hanes I'm just glad you showed up.
Regards
RTROSE

Thanks, RT!

And as for YOU, Craig ...

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Originally Posted by cuzed2 View Post

What's this!!! a Hanes response with no photos or animations?????????????

you-amuse-me.jpg
post #1795 of 2094
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by smakovits View Post

RT, does your system have the variable speed fan that is always on?

Yes it does and the A/C unit is also a two stage unit as well. My programmable thermostat has five settings for the fan....Off...Low...Med...High...Auto. I think though that when running the furnace or the A/C it operates at something like 70% and then if that is not meeting the demand it kicks up to 100% of available heating or cooling rating. That is what my HVAC told me anyway and in practice that is what I'm observing. There are three levels of air velocity I'm feeling out of the vents on the lowest I can just barely feel it.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #1796 of 2094
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Originally Posted by hanesian View Post

Thanks, RT!
And as for YOU, Craig ...
you-amuse-me.jpg

Now that's our Hanes !!
RT - back to your regularly scheduled program
post #1797 of 2094
The new HVAC system looks great RT!

I'm interested to hear your report on the utility bills as our old system is on its way out. I'm thinking that next spring will be our time to upgrade.
post #1798 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Hello all,

Just a few minor updates (very minor) at the RTROSE household. I have received my first electric bill with the new HVAC system. Granted the temps have been cooler than the 100's but we were still experiencing mid to upper 90's. I realized a savings of right at $100.00. So to say the least I was pretty happy to see a savings like that. I am also experiencing something else. With my old system I would have to keep the temp right at 70 or 72 to feel comfortable. With the new system I have it set between 74 and 76 using the programmable thermostat. I am not sure why the temp difference, other than my old electronic thermostat was not accurate.

On another front I have Dish network as my TV provider. Currently Dish and Dispatch Broadcast group (parent company of WTHR 13 NBC) are at odds with one another in a contract dispute. Now the big deal comes with Sunday Night Football. Due to the dispute I was unable to see the NFL kickoff (remember I'm a closet Giants fan) so Mr. RTROSE was NOT A HAPPY CAMPER! I had received a free Channel Master 7777 bowtie antenna. It did not matter what I did with that stupid thing I could only get a few channels none of which were WTHR. I think if my research is correct the Channel Master needs sometime of power amp. So today I went to my local Menards and picked up a RCA OTA antenna. Clickie Well after a couple of hours I had the antenna assembled, mounted, and connected. I ended up mounting the antenna on my shed out away from the house and out of the main view of the neighborhood to achieve the highest WAF I could. The antenna was a lot bigger than I thought it would be, but it works great. Even with a signal splitter in the line I am still getting 100 on my signal strength on a couple of channels and the upper 70's and 80's on most of the other channels. So now I am not being held hostage by two companies who are trying to do the best for their bottom lines, while forgetting about the people they are providing the service for, and enjoying uncompressed glorious FREE HDTV. NOW we can start football season!

Of course with my luck tomorrow they will reach an agreement and I have just thrown $90.00 right out of the window. At least the savings on my first electric bill paid for my antenna! biggrin.gif

Regards,

RTROSE
post #1799 of 2094
I hear ya RT, i have directv and theyve had similar problems. Programmng keeps getting more expensive and channels going down all the time.

Might be time to cut the chord!
post #1800 of 2094
I understand these frustrations all to well, as I have Dish and am amazed at the games that are played with content. And I am paying to be the victim ???

5 years ago I had an antenna mounted to my chimney, and have never looked back.
When a movie is also available via public broadcast channel >> I will always choose the antenna feed - because of the superior uncompressed signal.
Then there are those 3~4 times a year when a thunder or snow storm kils the Dish signal - The antenna signal is still there!

If I were the only viewer here - I would have dumped Dish a long time ago!
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