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post #2011 of 2094
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Originally Posted by J_P_A View Post

ZOMGBBQ! I gotta have that! Do you know what kind of nerd cred you would get for breaking those out?

Lol!


Great idea RT. You should make some mold's too like Tim suggested!

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post #2012 of 2094
There's also R2D2


and the Millenium Falcon


And your favorite, Hello Kitty
post #2013 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Ok fellas,

I'm pretty much up on the forum/texting/internet lingo, but sometimes I come across one that leaves me flummoxed and I have to look it up.

ZOMGBBQ threw me so I looked it up. Clickie so you guys know I am flat out serious. But this is what I found.

1. Weighed Anchor In Poo Bay

To Weigh Anchor in Poo Bay is another term to describe the plundering of an anus (male and or female) by some one who thinks they are a modern day Black Beard.

This works best, whilst wearing a pirate hat, or for the more extreme/adventurous "Weighing Anchor in Poo Bay" whilst having a parakeet on ones shoulder, which can end up in a very sticky situation...

Mac: I totally "Weighed Anchor in Poo Bay" last night! She loved it!

Ross: Sick! Did you try it with Becky's Parrot on your shoulder!?

Mac: Hells yea! she got abit pissed about the parrot shitting on her back though...


eek.gifeek.gifeek.gif

You just can't make this stuff up. J_P_A........I think you may have made a typo, but if not who am I to judge? biggrin.gif

And I'm spent!

Regards,

RTROSE
post #2014 of 2094
Ahoy, me maties! This has taken a turn for the worse!

You seem to have found a definition provided by the author named "ZOMGBBQ". How unfortunate he chose that particular topic.

I was going for something more along the lines of this (definition 3) and this biggrin.gif Although I typically refrain from any sort of high powered cursing involving the capital G. smile.gif

However, I will never look at ZOMGBBQ the same way thanks to RT!
post #2015 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Those forms are really cool. They sure would give me some "Geek Cred" no doubt.

No sweat J_P_A I figured as much, but thought I would have a little fun with it as that is what came up when I searched for it. I was having a boring, mediocre evening and that livened it up considerably. Brought tears of laughter to my eyes for sure. No harm, no foul. Thanks for the laugh.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #2016 of 2094
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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post

..........foul.......

Interesting choice of words, considering the subject matter. Reminds me of a story that a friend of mine.............. Uhhhhmmmmm...... I think I'll keep that one to myself..... Never mind biggrin.gif
post #2017 of 2094
You never know what you are going to find when you search. Type in "American Girl" or "American Dolls" and you get a decidedly different result than had you searched for "American Girl Doll". Ask my wife how she knows...

Oh and it's www.whitehouse.gov not www.whitehouse.com although one is by far more entertaining.
post #2018 of 2094
It's like the wild west out there in the weird wild internets! It's full of pirates (and booty) and cowboys - a lawless and fearsome bunch!
post #2019 of 2094
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by design1stcode2nd View Post

You never know what you are going to find when you search. Type in "American Girl" or "American Dolls" and you get a decidedly different result than had you searched for "American Girl Doll". Ask my wife how she knows...

Oh and it's www.whitehouse.gov not www.whitehouse.com although one is by far more entertaining.

When Mrs. RTROSE was going through nursing school I had the job of "research assistant". I was given the job of finding all the research materials online, printing them off so all she had to do was read then write her papers without spending countless hours searching for material. Be VERY careful when you search the term "natural child birth" that can get you to info you don't care to know. I have learned that whatever you are into there is a website for it.

FWIW I know several people who have made the .com vs .gov mistake. One quickly realizes the faux paux.

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Originally Posted by HopefulFred View Post

It's like the wild west out there in the weird wild internets! It's full of pirates (and booty) and cowboys - a lawless and fearsome bunch!

That's how I (and J_P_A) roll my friend! You're welcome to roll with us, if ya wanna.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #2020 of 2094
Wow RT, that was awefully nice of you to be "research assistant"! I could have used one of those.
post #2021 of 2094
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tony123 View Post

Wow RT, that was awefully nice of you to be "research assistant"! I could have used one of those.

Well if you are ever in need of a research assistant let me know. I think my hourly rate is slightly cheaper than Big's. Just like Big though I'm worth every penny!

Regards,

RTROSE
post #2022 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Alright,

I'm calling on my thread followers for some acoustical panel information. I was lucky enough to receive some OC703 panels some time ago and I have been doing my best to educate myself on the acoustical panel voo doo magic. I am limited where I can place my panels do to my layout and sconces. I realize that my placement might not be optimal, but I have experimented somewhat with placement and I am convinced that the four panels I have used so far have made a difference to the room acoustics.

Here are a couple of questions for you guys. I realize that GOM is pretty much the defacto fabric to go to, but the cheapest I can find it is about $17 yard for 66 x 36. I was wanted to spend less than that if at all possible. I spent about 30-40 minutes in JoAnn's Fabrics with Mrs RTROSE looking for acceptable fabrics and I just did not find (today) anything that really caught my eye. Anybody else have any luck somewhere besides JoAnn's, Hobby Lobby, or GOM?

The next question is about horizontal vs. vertical placement. The 2 x 4 sheets of OC703 are just a little too big to "look right" between the ceiling and chair rail. They fit very nicely horizontally though. Is there any thought on if one is better than the other. I see in most cases the panels are positioned vertically, but did not know if there would be a degradation in performance retaliative to either horizontal or vertical placement.

Looking for some input, ideas, suggestions, or someone to edumacate me a little more than what I have been edumacated.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #2023 of 2094
Horizontal placement is fine - it may even be preferable. The key to placement is that it land at the acoustic reflection point when you are sitting. Vertically, that should be somewhere midway between the height of your ears and the acoustical center of your speakers. The acoustical center of your speakers is somewhere near the middle, maybe shaded toward the tweeter. Horizontally, do you know where you want to put them?

I can't tell you much about fabric, as I haven't shopped for any of that yet. I will say that acoustic transparency is important, but not hugely crucial in this application. If you can breathe through it, it should be okay, IMO.
post #2024 of 2094
If you use them horizontal double up one on top of another IMO there will be lots of energy outside your 2' height which will bounce around and cause probs. a 4'x4' panel will catch most the spec energy of a primary reflection.

Dont forget to build them with an "air gap" 3" minimum imo.

Use a mirror to identify first reflection points of the following:

- Sidewalls
- ceiling
- behind LCR

-maybe back wall

FWIW bass probs are worth addressing with any leftover panels straddling the corners floor to ceiling.

Get ready for the best "cheap" upgrade youve experienced yet. Treatments IMO can rival upgrading speakers for much less coin.

Good luck.
post #2025 of 2094
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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post


Awesome idea. Just keep them in the icebox if there is any chance that they may melt (coconut oil's melting point is 76 degrees). I made some of these and put them in the wooden cabinet under the peopcorn machine. They all melted together in the fall months. I found that the sun hit the front of the cabinet for a couple of hours in the late afternoon (I had to stay home and verify this one day)!
post #2026 of 2094
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by HopefulFred View Post

Horizontal placement is fine - it may even be preferable. The key to placement is that it land at the acoustic reflection point when you are sitting. Vertically, that should be somewhere midway between the height of your ears and the acoustical center of your speakers. The acoustical center of your speakers is somewhere near the middle, maybe shaded toward the tweeter. Horizontally, do you know where you want to put them?

I can't tell you much about fabric, as I haven't shopped for any of that yet. I will say that acoustic transparency is important, but not hugely crucial in this application. If you can breathe through it, it should be okay, IMO.

I have been on some other forums as well and many have suggested this thought as you have. Now keeping that in mind imagine two people going through JoAnn's saying, "Honey do like the color of this one? Yeah I do can you breath through it? (face/nose/mouth goes to the fabric, inhale, exhale) Nope, not very well. Ok then it's too thick." Pick another fabric and repeat this about 20 or so times. I think we definitely had the attention of several patrons, and the staff there yesterday.

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Originally Posted by NicksHitachi View Post

If you use them horizontal double up one on top of another IMO there will be lots of energy outside your 2' height which will bounce around and cause probs. a 4'x4' panel will catch most the spec energy of a primary reflection.

Dont forget to build them with an "air gap" 3" minimum imo.

Use a mirror to identify first reflection points of the following:

- Sidewalls
- ceiling
- behind LCR

-maybe back wall

FWIW bass probs are worth addressing with any leftover panels straddling the corners floor to ceiling.

Get ready for the best "cheap" upgrade youve experienced yet. Treatments IMO can rival upgrading speakers for much less coin.

Good luck.

Yup have heard of the mirror test, pretty simple solution to determine FRP. I hear you on best practice, but due to my chair rail, sconces, and room layout, I probably won't be able to double up as that is why I'm thinking horizontal vs. vertical. Unfortunately I will have to "settle" for close enough vs. best practice or ideal because do to my lack of knowledge on the subject and room treatments for acoustic as an afterthought vs. being planned prior to design and construction I'm limited to where I can actually place the panels. Live learn, and plan for v 2.0 right?

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Originally Posted by carboranadum View Post

Awesome idea. Just keep them in the icebox if there is any chance that they may melt (coconut oil's melting point is 76 degrees). I made some of these and put them in the wooden cabinet under the peopcorn machine. They all melted together in the fall months. I found that the sun hit the front of the cabinet for a couple of hours in the late afternoon (I had to stay home and verify this one day)!

Well I'm glad you were able to determine what was causing it! I knew the melting point was pretty low, but did not realize 76 was it. I keep the pucks in the little beer fridge I have in the kitchenette so I'm good to go there. Doing it this way sure ups the convenience factor. Thanks again for all the info and support through the popcorn research. We have determined that over all the premade pack was good, but the separate ingredient route is better suited to our tastes and I have still been tweaking our recipe using your recipe you provided as the starting point. I ordered the ingredients you suggested and we really love the flavor of the popcorn. I have eaten more popcorn in the past couple of weeks than I have in months. Good stuff, much better than microwave popcorn for sure.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #2027 of 2094
^thats cool on the horizontal placement. I understand placement limitations, just wanted to suggest and you can fit what you can......

Also on the fabric, it doesn't matter how thick it is(mostly) the tightness of the weave and thread count matter most. The breath test works well but if a fabric is "truly" AT it will show light through the weave when held up to the light. This might save you from "blowing" all the fabric. biggrin.gif

Also IDK how fancy of fabric your looking but I've used ATS acoustics burlap and it is only a slight step down from GOM in appearance IMO. Its the finest burlap I've found without snags runs and the weave is extrat tight and nice. You can even add fire protection for a nominal fee if you care about such things. Its not your typical burlap.

ATS Burlap
post #2028 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the link Nick. That is a very good option and much easier on the wallet than GOM. You raise another question though. I was also concerned about the sheerness (transparency?) of the material when stretched. The OC703 is bright yellow and I was worried about it showing through the fabric so I was trying to find fabric with "breathability" but was not so see through either. It was kind of funny because one of the "thicker" fabrics was actually one of the most "breathable", it just happened to be sweatshirt fabric. I immediately thought how funny it would be for my panels to be covered with fabric like that and visitors would look and think why does he have sweatshirts hanging on his theater walls. biggrin.gif

Regards,

RTROSE
post #2029 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Happy Easter to all my AVS buddies! I hope you all enjoy this Easter holiday spending it with family and friends.

He is RISEN!

Regards,

RTROSE
post #2030 of 2094
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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post

.....He is RISEN!
....

^^^ That!

Have a blessed Easter as well!
post #2031 of 2094
Happy Easter guys!
post #2032 of 2094
Thread Starter 
You too Tony!

In other HT related news. I received my replacement parts for my sub on Friday. About 20-30 minutes of assembly and I was back in action again. All works as it should.

I can't say enough positive things about Brian Ding and Rythmik subs. They truly do understand what customer service is and what it means to take care of the customer.

Now for the season finale of The Walking Dead.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #2033 of 2094
Happy Easter RT! I hope that you had a great day with your family.

I'm glad to hear that your sub is working again. It must be nice to put that smaller Klipsch back in the other room. biggrin.gif
post #2034 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Thanks Austin. I hope you had a great day with your family as well.

It does feel good to get things back to normal with the Klipsch in it's rightful place and more importantly the Rythmik in it's proper spot. biggrin.gif

Regards,

RTROSE
post #2035 of 2094
Did he have to replace or rebuild the amp? or did it all check out okay and he just sent it back?
post #2036 of 2094
Great news on the sub front! I'm interested to know what was wrong as well. Any clues on what caused the failure?
post #2037 of 2094
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by HopefulFred View Post

Did he have to replace or rebuild the amp? or did it all check out okay and he just sent it back?

Sorry I should have provided a more detailed explanation. According to Brian at Rythmik the power amplifier module was bad. I do not know if the driver going bad caused the amp problem or if the amp problem caused the driver problem and Brian did not elaborate. He repaired the amp and shipped the repaired amp back to me along with a brand new driver.

All in all I'm very happy how it was all resolved. I posted my experience on the Rythmik forum, Brian posts there so maybe he will chime in there to give his thoughts on what happened. As I stated earlier I am sure that I did not overdrive the sub as I have watched the scenes multiple times without issue, and the sub did not give any signs that it was being pushed. I'm trying not to speculate too much about what happened as I don't know all the technical aspects of how the amps power module and limiting features work.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #2038 of 2094
So, uh... seen any good movies lately?

Looks like you haven't posted in a while, RTROSE. I trust that everything is well in your neck of the woods and that you're just getting fat on popcorn.
post #2039 of 2094
Thread Starter 
Hey Fred......I'm still ALIVE!!!!!

Thanks for checking in on me. I am getting fat on popcorn, but that is not the reason why I have been MIA. Just been very, very busy with work, lots of long hours and things going on professionally and also been very busy with other projects on the home front. All is well, just busy with not much time or energy left to do much of anything. There were many times that I sat in the recliner to start surfing AVS just to fall asleep with the computer in my lap. I even fell asleep while posting and when I woke up there was a bazillion "k's" in the posting window.

This past weekend the RTROSE household did have a milestone event. My oldest son graduated from high school, we had the ceremony on Saturday and his open house yesterday. Needless to say I'm a proud papa. He is now Purdue bound in the fall.







Congrats Caleb, and the Class of 2013! I'm very proud of you! Love you son!


Very little to report on the HT front. Mrs RTROSE used her window film skills to apply some tint to the lone window in the kitchenette to knock down the ambient light spilling into the theater. We have discovered that the popcorn machine light is distracting so we are on the hunt for some drapes for the doorway from the kitchenette to the theater.

After 8-9 years as a DISH customer, I am switching to ATT Uverse. I have been happy with DISH, but to save on my bill have been reducing my package the last couple of years to stay within a certain price point, plus the second TV supported by the DISH receivers are not HD. With Uverse all the TV's will be HD plus the whole house DVR function. We are also getting rid of the landline phone, going with just cellular and I am getting the Uverse internet and dropping my DSL service. I am going from 3 Mbps to 18 Mbps so I'm very happy about that. More channels, HD to every TV and I'm lowing my bill(s) by about 70 bucks to boot.

I do have a question. I have been running my OTA through my DISH receivers. Does the ATT box have the same feature? My TV's are good as they have internal tuners, but obviously my theater (PJ) does not. If the ATT box does not have that feature, what is a good (and relatively) inexpensive OTA tuner?

Regards,

RTROSE
Edited by RTROSE - 6/3/13 at 7:14am
post #2040 of 2094
Congrats on the high school graduation, Craig. I had one graduate this year, too, and the youngest one next year.

I don't remember growing older. When did they?
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