I think you're right about all this. I am going to upgrade to either an Onkyo TX-N905 or Pioneer Elite or SN or, or, or,, or maybe an Emotiva set up in Jan. when the new ones come out. Maybe even Arcam. People think with the feature laden receivers they are future proofing their systems for years to come. But everyone who owns Arcam or Emotiva says the SQ outguns the receivers. I'm hoping the new Emotivas coming in Jan. 2008 have most of the important new features, HDMI 1.3a, the new audio codecs, a decent video scaler, etc. I am convinced the SQ on good separates is superior to that of receivers. You are probably right too that HDMI can be worked around with 6 RCA cables and the new audio codecs will appear in players. Somebody introduceda chip with them to go in players a few months ago. Also, somebody speculated that the great video scalers, like the Reon one in the Onkyo 905 will appear in the [u]displays at some point- isn't that a good idea? It's sort of a "yes, separates may sound a little better, but JUST TO BE SURE I'm getting important features, I'll stick with the safety of a receiver" mentality. Also, I think people just think Onkyo and Pioneer may be around longer than the more esoteric and lower volume separates makers, and that will be important if there ever is a problem with their unit. Also, of course, seps are more money. Emotiva's top gun amp and pre-pro are $2,999 right now, and the new Onkyo 905 will list for $2,199, a $799 difference. I wonder how much more than $2,199 a new feature laden Arcam combo will be. Thousands, no doubt. There is one thing about seps that appeals to me: How can you cram all the pre-amp components AND 7 140W amps in one box in a receiver and have all that be as stable as when you put the amps in their own box and all the rest in a preamp box? Maybe they can and do, but it sort of defies logic.
MS1977]Ok I gotta ask this...I've noticed that there are several threads in this section about Onkyo, Pioneer, Marantz and Yamaha receivers with hundreds or thousands of posts....I don't get it....what is the big deal with the receivers made by those companies.
I had a mid-level Yamaha prior to getting the AVR 350 and their is no comparison (sure the Yamaha had a bunch of DSP modes that I didn't use).
I also looked at the Pioneer Elite 84 series (it was less than half the price of my AVR 350) and it had a lot of nice features (video upconverting, Ipod connectivity, etc...most of which I probably wouldn't use) but it didn't not even come close to sounding as good as the Arcam.
I see that the new Pioneer Elite series has the ability to decode the new HD audio formats, but won't the Arcam also be able to do that through Multichannel audio & won't most of the new HD audio formats have to be decoded on board the player?
I guess I am asking a couple of things: (1) what is the big deal with the feature laiden receivers (2) I thought that HDMI 1.3 was unnecessary because you'll will be able to get HD audio via multichannel audio and that type of audio will likely have to be decoded at source.
Am I out to lunch?[/quote]