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Easy HDTV is a HDTV viewer for Windows operating systems and internal ATSC tuner cards or external USB ATSC tuners.

Easy HDTV DVR is a HDTV viewer and recorder for Windows operating systems and internal ATSC tuner cards or external USB ATSC tuners.

Our goal was to create an easy to use HDTV software for people who don't like the complexity of other software.

Features:
-Works with most ATSC tuners including ATI HDTV Wonder, ATI TVWonder 650, DViCO Fusion series, AVerTVHD A180, AVerTV Combo PCIe, Autumnwave OnAir GT and HDHomeRun, Diamond ATI Theater HD 750 and AverTV Hybrid Volar Max.
-Works with most MPEG2 Decoders, including NVIDIA's excellent PureVideo decoder, and is easily selectable if multiple decoders are installed.
-Very responsive channel changing making it possible to channel surf. Has on screen display of program and channel information.
-Includes a plug-in for use with ATI Remote Wonder remote controls

Easy HDTV System requirements:
Windows 2000, XP, Vista or 8
MPEG2 decoder
ATSC tuner

Easy HDTV DVR System requirements:
Windows XP, Vista or 8
MPEG2 decoder
ATSC tuner


Edited by gc04 - 8/16/13 at 7:56am
post #2 of 158
It doesn't work with hdhomerun?
post #3 of 158
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Originally Posted by videolover View Post

It doesn't work with hdhomerun?

It should work with any tuner that has BDA drivers. I didn't include the HDHomeRun in the list because we didn't have one to test it on.
post #4 of 158
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Originally Posted by gc04 View Post

It should work with any tuner that has BDA drivers. I didn't include the HDHomeRun in the list because we didn't have one to test it on.

While the effort is commendable, I have to question whether the market needs another HD viewer. And that too "only" an HD viewer. I'm sure your reasons were sound and you wanted to create an "easy" viewer only, but then again, if the target market is the HTPC user, almost ALL HTPC users want more, and they are rarely scared of tackling some advanced stuff, if need be.

I wish you good luck, and hope it turns out to be a success.
post #5 of 158
Hi there

Decided to try out Easy HDTV with a new KWorld ATSC 120 PCI tuner since I was having problems with the packaged software (ArcSoft TotalMedia3) and a popular "free" HDTV app. Downloading and installation were quick and simple.

On first startup, the Setup menu comes up, which allows you to select the tuner device (hinting that more than 1 tuner can be used), the video decoder, the audio decoder and the video renderer (!!!). All selections are by pull down menus, and no typing is needed. This Setup menu can also be called up while the program is running, and you can (with some success) change decoders or renderer on the fly.

Configuration is almost too easy, since there was no prompting for channel scanning. Easy HDTV started up with channel 5.1, and changing channels seemed unresponsive. Finally figured out that the right mouse button brought up a menu. The automatic scan only found about a dozen of the 40+ digital channels that I can receive. After selecting the "slow scan" then all the channels were found (at a reported 100% signal level). Deselecting channels was then accomplished by just unchecking the channel number.

If you just want to watch HDTV without any kind of recording capabilities, then this app will suffice. The on-screen display for channel number, program info, etc is rather big, obnoxious and persists for almost 10 seconds. There are a few minor issues when resizing or maximizing the window. If I had to pay for this product I'd expect a bit more polish and features.

Regards
post #6 of 158
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Originally Posted by gc04 View Post

It should work with any tuner that has BDA drivers. I didn't include the HDHomeRun in the list because we didn't have one to test it on.

It doesn't work with the HDHomeRun. It throws an error: "Cannot load capture device and connect tuner."

This is most likely cause by the HDHomeRun being a "Reciever Only" BDA device. Instead of connecting:
Code:
ATSC Provider filter -> Tuner filter -> Capture filter -> Demux
It should connect:
Code:
ATSC Provider filter -> Tuner filter -> Demux
You will need to add the option to bypass loading the capture filter in order to support the HDHomeRun.
post #7 of 158
Additional thought:

The HDHomeRun has a capture filter listed with the same name as the tuner filter. They are actually the same filter so if your code included an if...then statement it should work.
Code:
If CaptureFilterName does not equal TunerFilterName
  Load CaptureFilter
  Connect TunerFilter to CaptureFilter
  Connect CaptureFilter to Demux
Else
  Connect TunerFilter to Demux
Hope this helps.
post #8 of 158
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by vladd View Post

It doesn't work with the HDHomeRun. It throws an error: "Cannot load capture device and connect tuner."

We've ordered an HDHomeRun and will look into it.
post #9 of 158
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by vladd View Post

It doesn't work with the HDHomeRun. It throws an error: "Cannot load capture device and connect tuner."

The changes have been made, it now works with HDHomeRun.
post #10 of 158
Thread Starter 
We're working on adding clear QAM support to Easy HDTV, but don't have access to digital cable in our area.

Here's the QAM beta **link removed** if anyone would like to test it and let us know the results.

This may not work at all, but if it does we think it will work with these cards:
ATI TV Wonder 650
AverTV Combo PCIe (M780)
AVerTVHD MCE A180
Dvico fusion 5 gold
Hauppage WinTV HVR 1600

We think it will not work with these cards:
HDHomerun
On Air GT

From the channels dialog select cable mapping and the appropriate modulation type for your cable system.
post #11 of 158
I can confirm both QAM and OTA work with the HDHomeRun. Good job.
post #12 of 158
Thread Starter 
Hmm, that's suprising, didn't expect it to work with that tuner. That's good news though, Thanks for the info.
post #13 of 158
The HDHomeRun remaps QAM streams to OTA channels and reencapsulates them into an OTA ATSC compliant stream. It was probably working from the time you added OTA support for the HDHomeRun but I missed your post about that.
post #14 of 158
does the QAM work on XP, or Vista only?
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Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vladd View Post

The HDHomeRun remaps QAM streams to OTA channels and reencapsulates them into an OTA ATSC compliant stream. It was probably working from the time you added OTA support for the HDHomeRun but I missed your post about that.

Remapping and reencaplulating channels wouldn't be necessary with the changes we've made. It's the setting of the modulation type to QAM or VSB we didn't think would work. If the HDHomeRun can automatically detect the modulation type then Easy HDTV should work with the HDHomeRun without the remapping.
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Lkr View Post

does the QAM work on XP, or Vista only?

If it works , it should work with either XP or Vista.
post #17 of 158
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Originally Posted by gc04 View Post

Remapping and reencaplulating channels wouldn't be necessary with the changes we've made. It's the setting of the modulation type to QAM or VSB we didn't think would work. If the HDHomeRun can automatically detect the modulation type then Easy HDTV should work with the HDHomeRun without the remapping.

Unfortunately, the BDA filters for the HDHR only accepts 8VSB tune requests of channels 2-69. The filters then check the remapping file to see if it should tune QAM instead as well as the channel/frequency. So channels will have to be remapped.
post #18 of 158
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vladd View Post

Unfortunately, the BDA filters for the HDHR only accepts 8VSB tune requests of channels 2-69. The filters then check the remapping file to see if it should tune QAM instead as well as the channel/frequency. So channels will have to be remapped.

I played around with the HDHomeRun setup and channel editor, I understand how the remapping works now.
post #19 of 158
Should work on Vista and does are 2 different things.
Last time I tried EasyHDTV it didnt work on my Vista machine and the trial surely has expired. If I try the Beta/latest version, will it let me test the functionality without shelling out the dollars first?
post #20 of 158
Thread Starter 
We've checked it and it does run our Vista system, which we assume means it does run on other Vista systems, but you know what happens when you assume.

If a previous version was installed and the trial period has expired it won't run without a key. I'll PM you an extension key.
post #21 of 158
I have tried this program (Easy HDTV) with a Hauppauge HVR1600 in the TRIAD AREA of NC.

I have not had any success in picking up Clear QAM in this area on the local Triad Time Warner Cable.

Have not tried an antenna.

CarolinaGuy
post #22 of 158
Just downloaded the beta version and find very good performance with the Pinnacle USB Pro HD with antenna and my Sony AR190G laptop. This is the first program that found the one HD station that we have in the VHF band as well as the UHF frequency stations. For basic HD viewing, Easy HDTV seems like a winner.
post #23 of 158
I'm using an AverMedia M780. I hate the Aver software, and all I want to do is tune/watch live TV, so this app would be a godsend for me. However, the QAM functions don't seem to work. When channel scanning, it actually tunes several channels, but nothing is ever added to the channel list.

I'd be willing to test anything you want to throw my way.

Keith
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Originally Posted by fishmonger View Post

I'm using an AverMedia M780. I hate the Aver software, and all I want to do is tune/watch live TV, so this app would be a godsend for me. However, the QAM functions don't seem to work. When channel scanning, it actually tunes several channels, but nothing is ever added to the channel list.

I'd be willing to test anything you want to throw my way.

Keith

I went through exactly the same drill.. no QAM on AverMedia PCIE
post #25 of 158
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CarolinaGuy View Post

I have tried this program (Easy HDTV) with a Hauppauge HVR1600 in the TRIAD AREA of NC.

I have not had any success in picking up Clear QAM in this area on the local Triad Time Warner Cable.

Have not tried an antenna.

CarolinaGuy

Thanks for trying.

Do you get any QAM channels using the software that comes with the HVR1600?

Do you know which version of the card you have? If the label on your board has the number 74021 or 74041 it's QAM capable, numbers 74031 or 74551 are not.
post #26 of 158
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishmonger View Post

I'm using an AverMedia M780. I hate the Aver software, and all I want to do is tune/watch live TV, so this app would be a godsend for me. However, the QAM functions don't seem to work. When channel scanning, it actually tunes several channels, but nothing is ever added to the channel list.

I'd be willing to test anything you want to throw my way.

Keith

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Originally Posted by gtgray View Post

I went through exactly the same drill.. no QAM on AverMedia PCIE

The fact that it tuned something sounds promising. The beta has been updated, found a tiny little mistake in it , to version 1.2.3 beta. Give the new version a try and keep your fingers crossed.
post #27 of 158
I'd be willing to try it out this weekend on my Fusion USB tuner. Comcast just unscrambled a bunch of their QAM channels. My hangup right now with the Fusion SW is not being able to rename the channels in the Favorites list ("hey dad, which one is A&E again?"). That and the fact that it freezes up whenever MCE tries to background record off the analog tuner card (NVidia DualTV).

Any conflicts between EasyHD and the Fusion App that might cause problems if I need to revert back to the Fusion front-end?

Bob
System - Athlon 64 Dual Core 5600, 2GB RAM, 7600GT, XP Pro
post #28 of 158
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by RLDWV View Post

Any conflicts between EasyHD and the Fusion App that might cause problems if I need to revert back to the Fusion front-end?

There's no conflicts with the Fusion software.
post #29 of 158
Greg

I have Product codes 74021.

No I COULD NOT Receive QAM with Hauppauge software. I have downloaded their latest software from this page:
http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/suppo...t_hvr1600.html

Will try it tomorrow and post back.

CarolinaGuy
post #30 of 158
Greg,

I tried this again with Easy HDTV BETA.
Selected slow scan
Cable (Standard)
8-VSB
64-QAM
and
256-QAM

During the slow scans, the program scans 135 Physical Channels.
Various Channels shows "SIGNAL STRENGTH" between 76 and 79%.
When it shows finish at the top, there are no channels displayed in the right hand window of the Channel Scan Window.

I'm also getting a random windows stating Easy HDTV need to shut down.

CarolinaGuy
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