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post #5971 of 6423
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Originally Posted by plarmigan View Post

Joe,

I already have a PC2000 & now I need a pair of bookshelves for my front L&R. Would the new SM45's match up well with the PC2000? I read the CS-8040HD is the center recommended for the SM45s - curious why not the PC2000? If I have to get the PM1000s I will, but I thought the SM45s might be a nice upgrade to the 1000s. Thoughts?

Thank you!

Hi Plarm,
Yes, the SM 45's will sound great with your center, go right ahead. They are great speakers for the money - amazing, really. Best, Joe
post #5972 of 6423
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Originally Posted by plarmigan View Post

Joe,

I already have a PC2000 & now I need a pair of bookshelves for my front L&R. Would the new SM45's match up well with the PC2000? I read the CS-8040HD is the center recommended for the SM45s - curious why not the PC2000? If I have to get the PM1000s I will, but I thought the SM45s might be a nice upgrade to the 1000s. Thoughts?

Thank you!

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Originally Posted by PioneerSC View Post

Plarmigan , the 450's are nice for sure as well as the 1000's , can't go wrong either way , will say i noticed that the 450's can hit a lil lower than the 1000's so unless you don't have a sub already I'd say get the 1000's for the clarity and set the crossover for the sub to wherever

I think plarmigan might be talking about the new SM45 and not the older SM450' s or am I reading it wrong.

The 450's put out that much bass that a sub is not really missed, but you will miss the sub come movie time, IMHO the 450's can't totally replace a sub for all uses in a HT system. Again IMHO the 450's easily go deeper and are fuller than the PM1000's
post #5973 of 6423
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Originally Posted by Plex View Post

I think plarmigan might be talking about the new SM45 and not the older SM450' s or am I reading it wrong.

The 450's put out that much bass that a sub is not really missed, but you will miss the sub come movie time, IMHO the 450's can't totally replace a sub for all uses in a HT system. Again IMHO the 450's easily go deeper and are fuller than the PM1000's

You are absolutely correct Plex, I was referring to the new SM45's, not the older Studio Monitor 450's. I do have a separate sub, so that's not an issue. My question is basically what pair of Def Tech bookshelve speakers would pair best with my PC2000 center (new sm45s, PM1000s, older Studio Monitor 350 or even older Studio Monitor 450s)?

I had my mind pretty much set on getting the new SM45's but the "system recommendation" on Def Techs website suggested pairing it with the CS-8040HD and I was curious if the PC2000 would substitute ok since they both contain 5-1/4 BDSS Drivers?

I know it's important to get the front 3 speakers matched as close as possible so I just wanted some other opinions before I purchased anything.

Thanks guys.
post #5974 of 6423
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Originally Posted by plarmigan View Post

You are absolutely correct Plex, I was referring to the new SM45's, not the older Studio Monitor 450's. I do have a separate sub, so that's not an issue. My question is basically what pair of Def Tech bookshelve speakers would pair best with my PC2000 center (new sm45s, PM1000s, older Studio Monitor 350 or even older Studio Monitor 450s)?

I had my mind pretty much set on getting the new SM45's but the "system recommendation" on Def Techs website suggested pairing it with the CS-8040HD and I was curious if the PC2000 would substitute ok since they both contain 5-1/4 BDSS Drivers?

I know it's important to get the front 3 speakers matched as close as possible so I just wanted some other opinions before I purchased anything.

Thanks guys.

I running the 450 with a PC2000 myself, I ask chet about the driver difference and he said the PC2000's out would easily keep up with the 450'. ideally the CLR with 6.5" drivers would be best but cost and size make that center imposible to have.

The PC2 and PM1's are a perfect match [same size and type of driver]. Now if you wanted to you could go 3 PC2000 up front, serach back a few dozen pages, there was a guy that did just that and was VERY happy. If I kew the old PC2000 was going to be revamped I'd sell my 450's and buy 2 more PC2000. Its funny how the new SM65 look like a deeper PC2000.

OK, to the point the PM1000 are a good choice [as above] the 350 offer only a slight upgrade in sound the 450 will give you the greatest sonic jump. Since the newer SM's come in 45, 55 and 65 I'd say the lowest model SM45 is not soniclly similar to the 450's and should not be used as a comparison speaker. My 450 go very deep and are give thick rich sound, also the 450's are going for less money if you find them.

I'm not sure I like the bass raditor on top, the older SM series has them on the sides which gives a better chance to reflect of a side wall faster then a ceiling. If your speaker are set at ear height that put the top drive 5-6' from the ceiling I'd have to think the strength of the bass wave will less force the longer it has travel, thus less reflective sound.
post #5975 of 6423
Hi Plarm, my two cents:
a) The newer SM 45 and 55 are quite a bit better than the older 350 and 450. Those designs were great in their day, but the new SM's are not only much nicer looking. They have better audio technology too - more sophisticated crossover networks, BDSS technology, etc.
b) If you can afford to move up to the SM 55 (which in terms of how deep it can go bass-wise is more comparable to the older 450), it will be an even better match than the SM 45. Of course, it's also a hundred bucks more, and you must decide with your own pocket book in mind. Then again, it's not a throw-away item - you will likely be enjoying them 20 years from now. The 45's will match up very well for the bucks. I hope this helps - best, Joe
post #5976 of 6423
Hello all,

I''m piecing together a new (to me) 5.1 Pro setup. If anyone has a pair of black PM1000s that you're planning to sell, please PM me.

While I'm here I have a (hopefully not too stupid) question. My family room has a cathedral ceiling so the height distance will be quite different from the left & right side. Is that likely to cause any noticeable difference due to the top bass radiators or can I rely on Audyssey to compensate?
post #5977 of 6423
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

Hello all,

I''m piecing together a new (to me) 5.1 Pro setup. If anyone has a pair of black PM1000s that you're planning to sell, please PM me.

While I'm here I have a (hopefully not too stupid) question. My family room has a cathedral ceiling so the height distance will be quite different from the left & right side. Is that likely to cause any noticeable difference due to the top bass radiators or can I rely on Audyssey to compensate?

A you talking about getting the new SM series which has the radiators on top?
post #5978 of 6423
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Originally Posted by Plex View Post

A you talking about getting the new SM series which has the radiators on top?

No. The PM1000 has radiators on top. As far as I can see from DT's specs, the new SM does not have top radiator. I'm not planning to go with the SM series.
post #5979 of 6423
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Originally Posted by Joe@Definitive View Post

Hi Plarm, my two cents:
a) The newer SM 45 and 55 are quite a bit better than the older 350 and 450. Those designs were great in their day, but the new SM's are not only much nicer looking. They have better audio technology too - more sophisticated crossover networks, BDSS technology, etc.
b) If you can afford to move up to the SM 55 (which in terms of how deep it can go bass-wise is more comparable to the older 450), it will be an even better match than the SM 45. Of course, it's also a hundred bucks more, and you must decide with your own pocket book in mind. Then again, it's not a throw-away item - you will likely be enjoying them 20 years from now. The 45's will match up very well for the bucks. I hope this helps - best, Joe

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Originally Posted by Plex View Post

I running the 450 with a PC2000 myself, I ask chet about the driver difference and he said the PC2000's out would easily keep up with the 450'. ideally the CLR with 6.5" drivers would be best but cost and size make that center imposible to have.

The PC2 and PM1's are a perfect match [same size and type of driver]. Now if you wanted to you could go 3 PC2000 up front, serach back a few dozen pages, there was a guy that did just that and was VERY happy. If I kew the old PC2000 was going to be revamped I'd sell my 450's and buy 2 more PC2000. Its funny how the new SM65 look like a deeper PC2000.

OK, to the point the PM1000 are a good choice [as above] the 350 offer only a slight upgrade in sound the 450 will give you the greatest sonic jump. Since the newer SM's come in 45, 55 and 65 I'd say the lowest model SM45 is not soniclly similar to the 450's and should not be used as a comparison speaker. My 450 go very deep and are give thick rich sound, also the 450's are going for less money if you find them.

I'm not sure I like the bass raditor on top, the older SM series has them on the sides which gives a better chance to reflect of a side wall faster then a ceiling. If your speaker are set at ear height that put the top drive 5-6' from the ceiling I'd have to think the strength of the bass wave will less force the longer it has travel, thus less reflective sound.


Thanks for the replies Plex & Joe!

If I had a way to put all three pc2000's up front with it looking good on speaker stands, I think I would seriously consider that. I just don't think I would be able to make it look good (hiding wires, etc) without taking up too much space and get the wife's approval in the process. Due to cost & space requirements, the sm45's are getting the nod right now, we'll see though.
post #5980 of 6423
OK, I'm posting this to hear what each you think about something I noticed


I have an OLD pair of JBL 150A with a 12" PR's and I was told by a JBL engineer that a Passive Radiator's [PR's] are used to increase efficiency of main driver in a sealed cabinet. A ported speaker does this in a similar fashion, as the driver is drawn in the port allows the air pressure to vent through the port and some portion of the sound is also hear through this port. That is why a ported speakers is often called tuned port the port placement is not random, placement is calculated. The same is true when the driver pushes out the port allows air to enter the speaker cabinet [push/pull effect] As I understand it, a Passive Radiator does the same thing but is used in sealed cabinet's of higher end speakers. A PR acts like the port but is more controlled and more precise, it allows the main driver to move less since it is pulling on the PR cone. One noticeable result is the increased tightness of the main driver it produces a sharper, detailed sound IMO. The PR is supposed to help the driver work or move less but still produce the same level out.


http://www.centerpointaudio.com/PassiveRadiators.aspx just found this


I was looking closely at my PM1000's and SM series and I notice the top passive radiator [PR] was screwed down to a hard surface [little to no movement], similarly the SM350/450 side radiator is also screwed down. Why is this done, other speakers that use this same technology have there radiators not tried down so they can move freely.
post #5981 of 6423
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Originally Posted by Plex View Post

OK, I'm posting this to hear what each you think about something I noticed


I have an OLD pair of JBL 150A with a 12" PR's and I was told by a JBL engineer that a Passive Radiator's [PR's] are used to increase efficiency of main driver in a sealed cabinet. A ported speaker does this in a similar fashion, as the driver is drawn in the port allows the air pressure to vent through the port and some portion of the sound is also hear through this port. That is why a ported speakers is often called tuned port the port placement is not random, placement is calculated. The same is true when the driver pushes out the port allows air to enter the speaker cabinet [push/pull effect] As I understand it, a Passive Radiator does the same thing but is used in sealed cabinet's of higher end speakers. A PR acts like the port but is more controlled and more precise, it allows the main driver to move less since it is pulling on the PR cone. One noticeable result is the increased tightness of the main driver it produces a sharper, detailed sound IMO. The PR is supposed to help the driver work or move less but still produce the same level out.


http://www.centerpointaudio.com/PassiveRadiators.aspx just found this


I was looking closely at my PM1000's and SM series and I notice the top passive radiator [PR] was screwed down to a hard surface [little to no movement], similarly the SM350/450 side radiator is also screwed down. Why is this done, other speakers that use this same technology have there radiators not tried down so they can move freely.

Hello Plex, all of your observations here are spot on. Bass radiators are a little more costly than ports, but give the engineers a lot of control and precision in exactly which frequencies are being reinforced. The screw on the top is connected to the bottom of the radiator, the "basket" that is suspended underneath. All BR's (or PR's) have a given stiffness and mass in order reinforce the correct frequency in that size box, and with that size driver. Change the box size, or go to a different driver - you'll also need to change the bass radiator's stiffness or mass, or both. The BR in the ProCinema and SM series does actually move freely, it just doesn't move as much as in some other designs. I hope this helps - best, Joe
post #5982 of 6423
ProSub 800 fuse blown:
I must have experienced a power surge the other night, because one of my PCs videocard died, and the next day (yesterday) I have noticed that my sub was not working. So I checked the fuse and it was blown, so I went to Radio Shack, as reccomended on the deftech site, but to my surprise thet did not have a Littlefuse 313 3.2A 250V fuse, so I purchaed the 3A 250V. Well I tried everything (connecting power first, speakers last etc.) I blew all the fuse I bought at power plugin. So my question is where can I find these fuses, and if it's online only buy, in the interim can use a 4A fuse? I am dying here.
post #5983 of 6423
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Originally Posted by dimi1963 View Post

ProSub 800 fuse blown:
I must have experienced a power surge the other night, because one of my PCs videocard died, and the next day (yesterday) I have noticed that my sub was not working. So I checked the fuse and it was blown, so I went to Radio Shack, as reccomended on the deftech site, but to my surprise thet did not have a Littlefuse 313 3.2A 250V fuse, so I purchaed the 3A 250V. Well I tried everything (connecting power first, speakers last etc.) I blew all the fuse I bought at power plugin. So my question is where can I find these fuses, and if it's online only buy, in the interim can use a 4A fuse? I am dying here.

If it blew the 3A fuse instantly, something else is wrong. Trying a higher-value fuse just risks further damage. I fear you will need to get it serviced.
post #5984 of 6423
That is what i fear too. Thank you
post #5985 of 6423
Hi Dimi, try e mailing info@definitivetech.com.
Chet and Adam are great guys and very helpful. Best regards, Joe
post #5986 of 6423
I actually called them this morning, I spoke to Chet. He is sending me some fuses (3.2A 250V), because they are hard to come by. He did mention that the fuse may blow because it's not of the right specs. So we'll see what happens. I will keep you posted.
post #5987 of 6423
I purchased a pro cinema 600 package . Was happy with it but felt I needed more so I scraped that setup and then purchased 6 pm 1000's a pc2000 and a pro sub 1000, I noticed in both systems my sub rattled in certain movies for example deception and Jurassic park when it hit lows deep both subs rattled . Past post people had the same problem and returned them or opened them up. But I did a little experiment . I've done auto setup with my receiver mic in the middle of the room left the subs volume control at 11'oclock or less and let the receiver auto the speakers and after that I have kept the sub at 12o'clock. So hearing the rattling I went into the receivers speaker menu and brought the sub down th sub 5 notches and still left the volume knob on the sub at 12 and still had the volume up on my receiver and this eliminated the rattling. So all in all I see that the mic auto setup is still not 100% it was over driving the sub and now I'm still getting kick ass bass!!!!! Without the rattling!!!!!! So before you send your sub in play with the menus you
see auto calibration can push things a little far.
post #5988 of 6423
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Originally Posted by dimi1963 View Post

I actually called them this morning, I spoke to Chet. He is sending me some fuses (3.2A 250V), because they are hard to come by. He did mention that the fuse may blow because it's not of the right specs. So we'll see what happens. I will keep you posted.

Great Dimi, let us know how it goes
post #5989 of 6423
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Originally Posted by W2GOD View Post

I purchased a pro cinema 600 package . Was happy with it but felt I needed more so I scraped that setup and then purchased 6 pm 1000's a pc2000 and a pro sub 1000, I noticed in both systems my sub rattled in certain movies for example deception and Jurassic park when it hit lows deep both subs rattled . Past post people had the same problem and returned them or opened them up. But I did a little experiment . I've done auto setup with my receiver mic in the middle of the room left the subs volume control at 11'oclock or less and let the receiver auto the speakers and after that I have kept the sub at 12o'clock. So hearing the rattling I went into the receivers speaker menu and brought the sub down th sub 5 notches and still left the volume knob on the sub at 12 and still had the volume up on my receiver and this eliminated the rattling. So all in all I see that the mic auto setup is still not 100% it was over driving the sub and now I'm still getting kick ass bass!!!!! Without the rattling!!!!!! So before you send your sub in play with the menus you
see auto calibration can push things a little far.

Turn down the signal on a sub being overdriven and it stops falling apart, imagine that. In all seriousness though, you said that you place the calibration mic in the middle of the room. Is that your main listening spot?
post #5990 of 6423
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Originally Posted by toddRiffic View Post


Turn down the signal on a sub being overdriven and it stops falling apart, imagine that. In all seriousness though, you said that you place the calibration mic in the middle of the room. Is that your main listening spot?

Lol no actually mic was placed by the main sitting area. And yes common sense of keeping the signal down I just threw this out three because people have complained about the same thing and first thin they do is dismantle there sub thinking everything is loose inside, so go figure try the obvious first .
post #5991 of 6423
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Originally Posted by Joe@Definitive View Post

Great Dimi, let us know how it goes

Not so good, it turned out that the amp is no good no more, so I called back and they are sending me a new amp, whcih I will replace myself. They are great, Adam helped me. So i should be getting a new amp in the next couple of days or so. Thank you guys for your help, this forum is a wealth of knowledge.
post #5992 of 6423
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Originally Posted by GreenTennis View Post

When I received my DT ProCinema 800 package I discovered the subwoofer had a bad case of the rattles. While trying to isolate the issue it was discovered that the rattles would disappear it the unit was placed upside down. I then found this was not the first report of this issue. I found the included thread that discusses this very issue. Below is a solution for those that have the same symptoms. Hope this helps those who have this issue.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1271997


When I found this post I discovered this is not an isolated case of DT ProSub has rattles. Case rattles that do not occur if the unit is turned upside down. If you have this issue and your sub is under warranty or you purchased it local you might want to return it for another. However for those that would like to try and resolve the issue then see follow the guide listed below.

Symptoms:

When power is off to the unit and you tap on the side of the unit you hear a rattle along with the vibration. To test for the rattle, perform the following steps:

1) Disconnect all the wires to the sub including the power cord
2) Tighten the speaker connectors if they are lose
3) Place the sub on carpet or soft surface
4) With a closed fist, tap on top rear corner of the sub with the soft part of your fist. Listen for the rattle or buzz.
5) With your other hand slightly lift the rear of the sub and repeat step 4. The rattle/buzz will follow the vibration you feel. If the rattle is not present, it is possible you have a different issue.
6) If you hear the rattle, gently place the sub upside down and repeat step 4. If the rattle is all but gone, then there is a good chance the steps below will show and resolve the rattle issue.

Disclaimer: Proceed from here at your own risk. Care must be taken to keep from damaging the unit.

What you will need to perform this task:
1) A Philips screwdriver (medium size)
2) 1.5 to 1.75 thick book
3) A wrist sweatband
4) Flashlight


 
The Procedure:
1) Place the sub right soft surface or with a cloth underneeth


2) Remove the front grill and store out of the way in a safe place




 
3) Carefully pick up the sub and place it face down evenly on the grill holding pins.



4) To remove the screws, do so in a staggered pattern similar to removing and installing lug nuts on a car. If you don't want to mar the screws or back plate, place a piece of cloth between the screwdriver and the screw. Remove the screws slowly to minimize the loss of particle board. Don't be surprised if some screws seem tighter than others. That is the result of them using wood screws without T-nuts.
When removing what I thought would be T bolt/nuts, I discovered they were actually wood screws into particle board. This can create problems and is not a good practice. I was very disappointed to find out they designed and manufactured this unit this way. You will need to be very careful when removing the screw and even more so when screwing them back in to keep from striping the wood. The problem with wood screws into particle board is that the glued compress wood will crumble away from the threads causing them not to bite into the wood. Even with care this can happen. If it does, then a trip to HD/Lowes to pick up some T bolt/nuts and do the job correctly.

5) Very carefully pick the sub straight up keeping your hand on the back plate to make sure it does not fall out. Being careful not to put any side stress on the front grill pins while lifting, rotate the sub back to the upright position keeping pressure on the back plate. Sit the sub down with so the book is right at the edge of the back of the sub.


6) There is very little slack in the wires so be careful when sliding out the plate. There is a good chance the plate will be stuck to the speaker box, so you might have to work a little to get it lose. Do not pull hard on the speaker knobs or use a screwdriver to pry it loose unless you do not mind cosmetic damage. If you are having a hard time getting it loose, try taping the box or lifting the back side ½ and taping it down. Make sure you keep your hand on the plate while you do this. Once it is free, slide it out slightly. Stop if the wires are tight and stressed. The wires are tied to the top speaker box with a wire tie. If you need more slack, undo the wire tie. You might be able to do the repair without undoing the wire tie if you can get the back plate out enough to sit on the book.




7) At this point you will notice there is block of wood glued to the base of the sub box that sits just beneath the transformer.
Not sure if the manufacture forgot to put a pad on top of that wood block or if they intended for it to be like that. Assuming the purpose of that block of wood is in some way there for support of the transformer, it just does not work as is. If you look at the transformer you will notice that is it mounted on an L bracket. Do to the weight of the transformer, it flexes. I could not tell for sure if the transformer flexes enough to hit the wood. I would have suspected evidence of rubbing and found none. However, just the vibration of the transformer would be enough to cause issues. It was nice to see that they used Loctite and sealant on the components and connectors.



The mystery block of wood and the focus of the modification. Also notice the wood screws used to mount the passive driver and the main driver.


8) Take the wrist sweatband and place it on top of the block of wood. Tuck the end down into the space between back cover and the block of wood. This will help in keeping the sweat band from sliding back when the back plate is re-inserted.


9) Retie the wire tie that holds the wires if it was undone and slide the back plate back into the enclosure.
10) Holding the back plate in place with palm lift up the sub and place it face down evenly on the grill holding pins.
11) Install the screws in a staggered pattern similar to removing and installing lug nuts on a car.
Do not over tighten as this might strip the particle board. Once all the screws are installed, gently go back over the screws until they are tight.
12) Pick up the sub straight up being careful not to put any side stress on the front grill pins while lifting, rotate the sub back to the upright position.
13) Test for the rattle as described in the systems section. If rattle still occurring, check the screws to make sure they are tight and that the speaker connectors are tightened. Repeat process if necessary.
14) Install front grill cover.



I hope this helps those who have this problem with their DT ProCinema subwoofers.


For me this eliminated 96% of the rattling. Only rattles that occur now are when the subwoofer is pushed at a very high volume. With a little more work on the inside of the cabinet and using T-nuts, I bet this cabinet could be 100% rattle free.
For Fun:
If you would like to hear the transformer hum, with the volume all the way down put your ear on the top of the subwoofer cabinet.

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Originally Posted by W2GOD View Post

Lol no actually mic was placed by the main sitting area. And yes common sense of keeping the signal down I just threw this out three because people have complained about the same thing and first thin they do is dismantle there sub thinking everything is loose inside, so go figure try the obvious first .

One members solution to their prosub rattle issue.
post #5993 of 6423
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Originally Posted by dimi1963 View Post

Not so good, it turned out that the amp is no good no more, so I called back and they are sending me a new amp, whcih I will replace myself. They are great, Adam helped me. So i should be getting a new amp in the next couple of days or so. Thank you guys for your help, this forum is a wealth of knowledge.

Great Dimi - Adam is a good man. Best, Joe
post #5994 of 6423
Quote:
Originally Posted by Plex View Post

I running the 450 with a PC2000 myself, I ask chet about the driver difference and he said the PC2000's out would easily keep up with the 450'. ideally the CLR with 6.5" drivers would be best but cost and size make that center imposible to have.

The PC2 and PM1's are a perfect match [same size and type of driver]. Now if you wanted to you could go 3 PC2000 up front, serach back a few dozen pages, there was a guy that did just that and was VERY happy. If I kew the old PC2000 was going to be revamped I'd sell my 450's and buy 2 more PC2000. Its funny how the new SM65 look like a deeper PC2000.

OK, to the point the PM1000 are a good choice [as above] the 350 offer only a slight upgrade in sound the 450 will give you the greatest sonic jump. Since the newer SM's come in 45, 55 and 65 I'd say the lowest model SM45 is not soniclly similar to the 450's and should not be used as a comparison speaker. My 450 go very deep and are give thick rich sound, also the 450's are going for less money if you find them.

I'm not sure I like the bass raditor on top, the older SM series has them on the sides which gives a better chance to reflect of a side wall faster then a ceiling. If your speaker are set at ear height that put the top drive 5-6' from the ceiling I'd have to think the strength of the bass wave will less force the longer it has travel, thus less reflective sound.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe@Definitive View Post

Hi Plarm, my two cents:
a) The newer SM 45 and 55 are quite a bit better than the older 350 and 450. Those designs were great in their day, but the new SM's are not only much nicer looking. They have better audio technology too - more sophisticated crossover networks, BDSS technology, etc.
b) If you can afford to move up to the SM 55 (which in terms of how deep it can go bass-wise is more comparable to the older 450), it will be an even better match than the SM 45. Of course, it's also a hundred bucks more, and you must decide with your own pocket book in mind. Then again, it's not a throw-away item - you will likely be enjoying them 20 years from now. The 45's will match up very well for the bucks. I hope this helps - best, Joe

Well I just purchased a pair of the new SM 55's online. Even though I'm sure I would have been happy with the smaller 45's, I decided to "go big or go home" and get the 55's to pair with my PC2000 center up front

I'll be moving my current small pair of bookshelf speakers to the rear to complete my 5.1 setup. Later on down the line those will be upgraded to a pair of Def Tech rear surround speakers.

Thanks for the assistance guys! I'll let ya'll know how they sound once I get everything setup.
post #5995 of 6423
Good Plarm, looking forward to it - best, Joe
post #5996 of 6423
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Originally Posted by Joe@Definitive View Post

Great Dimi - Adam is a good man. Best, Joe

I am very happy to report that my sub is back to work. I have received the amp this morning and installed it (very easy install). I have to say it, Deftech is one of a kind company, the back their product with superb customer service. Kudos!!!
post #5997 of 6423
I had the same problem. I found the instructions on the forum on how to fix the issue, however did not feel comfortable try it myself and did not want to void the warrenty. I contacted Deftech customer service, and their response was that I should contact the distributor who I bought my ProCinema 800 from, which happened to be Crutchfield. Was not happy with Deftech customer service because I felt as if they were passing the buck. Crutchfield however, replaced the subwoofer immediately with a new one. No problems whatsoever with the new subwoofer.
post #5998 of 6423
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Originally Posted by pleibowitz View Post

I had the same problem. I found the instructions on the forum on how to fix the issue, however did not feel comfortable try it myself and did not want to void the warrenty. I contacted Deftech customer service, and their response was that I should contact the distributor who I bought my ProCinema 800 from, which happened to be Crutchfield. Was not happy with Deftech customer service because I felt as if they were passing the buck. Crutchfield however, replaced the subwoofer immediately with a new one. No problems whatsoever with the new subwoofer.

My response is regards to pigpile's post concerning the rattling Prosub 800
post #5999 of 6423
So we just moved into our first house and I am in the procces of trying to setup the HT system. I got the DT Pro800 package and a Denon 2112 reciever, 40" samsung, blu-ray...Etc. The room is about 16'X10 with a bay window on one side and of the 16 and half of the other 16" wall opens to the kitchen. The seating is placed about 12" from the tv with a little room behind the couch that goes into a hallway. I don't know where to mount the rears. Would it be better to mount them on the side walls or the back walls on either side of the hallway opening? The short wall in the upper right hand corner of the room is a half wall so mounting mid way is not an option, I was going to mount them near the ceiling, there is about a 10" drop above that half wall. Should I mount them where the red box is facing each other slightly angled to the room or where the blue boxes are angled as much as possible towards each other? ceilings are 8' any suggestions would be great!!! Is placing them up near the ceiling going to be a bad idea as far as sound goes? I have the Def Tech mounts for them so I can angle them down easily.
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post #6000 of 6423
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Originally Posted by ride92 View Post

So we just moved into our first house and I am in the procces of trying to setup the HT system. I got the DT Pro800 package and a Denon 2112 reciever, 40" samsung, blu-ray...Etc. The room is about 16'X10 with a bay window on one side and of the 16 and half of the other 16" wall opens to the kitchen. The seating is placed about 12" from the tv with a little room behind the couch that goes into a hallway. I don't know where to mount the rears. Would it be better to mount them on the side walls or the back walls on either side of the hallway opening? The short wall in the upper right hand corner of the room is a half wall so mounting mid way is not an option, I was going to mount them near the ceiling, there is about a 10" drop above that half wall. Should I mount them where the red box is facing each other slightly angled to the room or where the blue boxes are angled as much as possible towards each other? ceilings are 8' any suggestions would be great!!! Is placing them up near the ceiling going to be a bad idea as far as sound goes? I have the Def Tech mounts for them so I can angle them down easily.

Hey ride,

Any chance you can get your hands on two ladders to use as temporary stands so you can try them either way before mounting them? I like to do this since you get different results in different spaces.
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