Definitive Technology ProCinema Series 600/800/1000 (or 60/80/100) Thread - Page 204

Originally Posted by HDKing 

Reading through this thread and noticed in the beginning that someone mentioned calling ABT and a possible discount. Is this still ok?

Looking at a ProSub 800, ProCenter 2000, and 4 ProMonitor 1000s. Can get them locally, but if I can save on tax and a discount going online, I'm in.

Originally Posted by QuadZ400 

I just rec'd two ProMonitor 1000's and one was DOA. The tweeter has sound, but not the driver. Apparently, NewEgg doesn't have these anymore, or I would of just did an RMA and got a new one (claiming Discontinued, so maybe a product refresh with the new "D." logo on them are coming). Based on the price I got them for, I figured just sending it back wasn't the way to go. I called Definitive this morning and they are sending me another driver. I didn't open it up last night, in case they just wanted to swap it out, etc. So, could there just be a connection that came lose in all of the shipping, or do bad drivers in a brand new speaker really exist? Thanks

Originally Posted by toddRiffic 

Hi guys, I recently moved and it's taking a while to get everything settled. I prewired for 9 speakers and 4 subwoofers. I'm going to be running either my BP8's or a pair of PM1000's L & R, my PC2000 center, BP1.2x's SL & SR.
I'm only running two of the four subs right now as I'm waiting for a product called miniDsp to arrive from overseas. I plan on using it to manage my 4 subs as Audyssey Multi-EQ my denon 1909 only manages a single sub. I plan on posting REW measurements to share any benefit I get from using single/dual/quad subs in my room which is a typical living room in so that it is not a dedicated listening space, but is open to the rest of the house.
I took this picture just being silly. Two of the subs are in the back of the room currently.

I was super disappointed with the bass running two of the subs on either side of the stand. It was horrible: weak and muddy. Turned out putting either one 180 degrees out of phase with the other tightened up the bass notes and output increased significantly!
I had the builder leave the wire behind the drywall so I could decide on speaker use and placement after listening in the finished space. I have my BP1.2x's 7 feet above the floor in the back of the room and so far they sound really good after some limited listening. Before I add terminals to the back wall for PM1000's SBL & SBR, I will put them on a couple of ladders and listen to them to see if they make a real contribution.

I hope some find this helpful or interesting and will report back when I get things settled.

Originally Posted by joeatdefinitive 

Mighty nice Todd! I suggest you play it loud and see if you can get the neighbors to complain....

Originally Posted by toddRiffic 

Thanks Joe, but I really don't do much high spl listening even if I know the DT's can take it, my little PM1000's can play LOUD. My old neighbor across the street had 4 of your biggest bipolar towers running in stereo and I could hear those things like they were in my house when he cranked them up!

Originally Posted by S281 

I have a pro cinema 600 setup. Just upgraded the center and fronts to PC1000 and PM800's. Now i want to add another subwoofer since the prosub 600 is lacking in my large living room. If I add a prosub 800, can i run both? I've heard if you are running more then 1 sub that its advisable to get matching subs. Is the Prosub 600 and 800 close enough to use both together?

Originally Posted by joeatdefinitive 

Hello S, thank you for asking. The issue is that if you have two subs that are not the same model, the lesser of the two can run out of steam and hit its peak limits before the other does. Having said that, if you plan to put the 800 in an area where the room is more "open" it may work out fine, because subs typically have to work a little harder when there are no reinforcing walls near them. So in my view, matching subs would be even better but this will probably work out OK. In any event, experimenting with subwoofer placement is a really good idea if you can do so. Placement can make a huge difference, as reflected bass sound often makes up more of what we hear than direct bass sound. Let us know how it goes OK? Best, Joe

Originally Posted by S281 

Thanks Joe, Do you think it would sound better using just one sub like the supercube 2000 or stick with above option? Is the only difference between the prosub 600 & 800 just the size of amp?
I dont want to overpower the rest of the setup with too powerful sub either, if thats even possible. One of my reasons behind getting the PS800 was because ive heard that having 2 subs is supposed to make the sound field amazing compared to just 1 subwoofer.

Originally Posted by rdclark 

Yes, but you don't have to compound the problem. Put the center channel speaker under the screen, and the R/L speakers level with it.

Originally Posted by ImHerDad 

thanks for the replies. I guess the main question is what is more important. height of the speakers or physical separation of the speakers?

Originally Posted by richieprimo 

Hi All - I'm in a somewhat similar placement predicament to Imherdad, and have a few questions. Any advice would be appreciated and here's a little info on my situation:
The nearly completed dedicated HT area of my basement is 12' wide x 19' deep and my ceilings are just south of 8' high. My fixed-frame projection screen covers much of the wall, leaving about 1' on either side, 10" above, and 16" from the floor. The seating is pretty much straight-on to the screen wall, with a front row of 3 at 13' back, and 3 more behind on a 2nd row riser. AVR is a Pioneer VSX-60, which I received as a gift.
I just picked up four 800's for Front and Sides, a PC1000 for Center, and the Pro Sub 800 - mainly because I really liked the sound, but also think they'll be more than enough for my limited room dimensions and usage preference (mostly BD/DVD films and some sports).
My questions are:
1. I have 36" stands that would work fine for the fronts, which I could place a bit off and away from the corners. In this case, would it make much difference if I placed the 1000 Center above the screen tilting downward somewhat, or building a small platform to place it about a foot off the floor tilted up? My thinking is that - either way - the PC1000 would be in the same proximity to the 800 Fronts, within a couple feet above or below parallel. My only other option is building a 12" platform across the entire floor, but I'd prefer to avoid that unless absolutely necessary. Would the former option severely affect the sound quality?
2. The Side Surrounds must be ceiling mounted, due to a soffit that runs a bit behind the back seats and the room widening toward the back with a passage . My question here is - and pardon me if this sounds simple - since I want to get as far below the ceiling as possible, but factoring the limited height, would it be detrimental for any reason in mounting these upside-down? I know it sounds funny, but I don't want the speakers' "radiator" to hug the ceiling, or people hitting their head on them. That's the only alternative that I can think of, especially since the wires have been run through the ceiling to these areas before having chosen these speaker types. I had originally planned on using my older BA HTIB Surrounds for the sides until I heard the DT's.
Any advice or ideas would be welcome and please excuse my lack of knowledge. I'm not tech-savvy and this is my first try at a semi-serious home theater. Thanks in advance.
Rich