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post #6961 of 7194
Welp just got my Procenter 2000 which is flawless (condition wise)

Found out my existing speakers have been set to 200hz crossover eek.gif

What do you think 100hz or 80hz? I cannot set individual speaker crossover (I think)
post #6962 of 7194
I'm crossing over my PC2000 & PM 1000's @ 80Hz. My rear PM 800's are crossed over @ 100Hz. If you aren't capable of choosing individual crossover points, 80Hz will be fine for the PC 2000 - what type of speakers are your "existing" speakers you referred to above?
post #6963 of 7194

how do the mythos gems stack up against the promonitor 800s? or even the 1000s?

post #6964 of 7194
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Originally Posted by St-Paul View Post

how do the mythos gems stack up against the promonitor 800s? or even the 1000s?
Wondering the same thing myself. Considering the Gems or Gems XL for the rear sats in a setup that has ProMonitor 1000's and a ProCenter 1000 for the fronts and center.
post #6965 of 7194
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Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post


Wondering the same thing myself. Considering the Gems or Gems XL for the rear sats in a setup that has ProMonitor 1000's and a ProCenter 1000 for the fronts and center.

How does the procenter hold up between the  promonitor 1000s? The match for the 1000s is a procenter 2000 but since i already have the Procenter 1000 and want to upgrade to the promonitor 1000s, i was wonderig if they would drown it out. I really dont want to park the Procenter 1000 and put it into disuse but im worried it will affect the sound quality if the 1000s are used instead of the 800s.

post #6966 of 7194

Need opinions lots and lots of opinions.

1. 4 def tech 1000 +1 procenter 2000 + 1 supercube 2000 = $1550 Good Deal?

2.Good receiver to pair these together. Crutchfield guy says give it some juice when I wanted to go with NR1604 he said get atleast SR 5008 =100 watts so any suggestions?

post #6967 of 7194
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Originally Posted by St-Paul View Post
 

How does the procenter hold up between the  promonitor 1000s? The match for the 1000s is a procenter 2000 but since i already have the Procenter 1000 and want to upgrade to the promonitor 1000s, i was wonderig if they would drown it out. I really dont want to park the Procenter 1000 and put it into disuse but im worried it will affect the sound quality if the 1000s are used instead of the 800s.

 

When you move up to the PM 1000's - you need to add the PC 2000 for the center to match the front 3 speakers. The PM1000 and the PC2000 are matched perfectly whereas the PC 1000 is meant for the PM 800's.  This thread has a ton of people agreeing with this statement. You will be very happy with the PC2000. There is even one or two members here who went with 7 PC2000's for their 7.1 system. 

post #6968 of 7194
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Originally Posted by dna88 View Post
 

Need opinions lots and lots of opinions.

1. 4 def tech 1000 +1 procenter 2000 + 1 supercube 2000 = $1550 Good Deal?

2.Good receiver to pair these together. Crutchfield guy says give it some juice when I wanted to go with NR1604 he said get atleast SR 5008 =100 watts so any suggestions?

 

The PM1000 withe the PC2000 is a very popular set up in this thread and people are very happy with it. Many go with a different sub because they feel the DT subs are a little underwhelming. SVS, Rythmik, HSU, Outlaw all make great subs and are internet direct. The SVS PB 1000 and the Rythmik LV12R are two of the most popular subs for $499 and $599 respectively. I would myself, go with your 1000/2000 set up but get a different sub.

 

Also, check prices at Abt Electronics as they are having a sale right now. One can get DT speakers for 20-25% off MSRP.  

post #6969 of 7194
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Originally Posted by AlexanderDelarg View Post
 

 

The PM1000 withe the PC2000 is a very popular set up in this thread and people are very happy with it. Many go with a different sub because they feel the DT subs are a little underwhelming. SVS, Rythmik, HSU, Outlaw all make great subs and are internet direct. The SVS PB 1000 and the Rythmik LV12R are two of the most popular subs for $499 and $599 respectively. I would myself, go with your 1000/2000 set up but get a different sub.

 

Also, check prices at Abt Electronics as they are having a sale right now. One can get DT speakers for 20-25% off MSRP.  


Yea I heard some comments about the supercube 2000 but all these speakers came as a package for that price so I just really wanted to know if that was a decent price for $1550 for all those?

post #6970 of 7194
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Originally Posted by dna88 View Post

Need opinions lots and lots of opinions.
2.Good receiver to pair these together. Crutchfield guy says give it some juice when I wanted to go with NR1604 he said get atleast SR 5008 =100 watts so any suggestions?

Do you have a huge room or like to listen at ear bleeding levels? If so, the difference between 50 watts and 100 is 3dB diference in loudness. It's small and not a big difference, it doesn't hurt to have the extra power, but don't let someone try to sell you on it being a big deal. Most of the time your speaker is getting a single Watt if it's lucky under average listening conditions.
post #6971 of 7194
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Originally Posted by dna88 View Post
 


Yea I heard some comments about the supercube 2000 but all these speakers came as a package for that price so I just really wanted to know if that was a decent price for $1550 for all those?

 

Call Abt Electronics where you can buy individual speakers and compare with your deal. That way you can be sure. Then you can decide about getting a better sub. The Supercube 2000 has an MSRP of $599 and it can not touch the SVS PB 1000 or the Rythmik LV12R.  See what Abt can get you for the PM 1000's and the PC 2000. I got 25% off MSRP when I called a week ago. 

post #6972 of 7194

I have the NR1403 powering my PM1000 and PC2000 on the fronts and PM800's in back.  This combo creates more than enough volume, even in my large space (living room itself is 25 feet long by 12 feet wide; completely open to kitchen on right which is also about 25x12). 

post #6973 of 7194
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Originally Posted by carminepesce View Post

I'm crossing over my PC2000 & PM 1000's @ 80Hz. My rear PM 800's are crossed over @ 100Hz. If you aren't capable of choosing individual crossover points, 80Hz will be fine for the PC 2000 - what type of speakers are your "existing" speakers you referred to above?

Basically cheap speakers that were included with the Onyko HT-SR800 set, honestly they could explode and perish into flames and I really wouldn't care, the PM 1000s are on the way, will get the 800s soon.

http://www.manualowl.com/m/Onkyo/HT-SR800/Manual/220610?page=19
post #6974 of 7194

Thanks guys really appreciate the input!

I can't do too much about the sub being bad as it was in a package deal so im gonna have to live with it. This is my first ht setup and honestly I think i've outdone myself. I think im going to go with a marantz NR 150. Anyone find some decent mounts for these pro 1000's? I see the ones that def tech sells but wtf $50 for those things? Or are the other ones really that bad.

post #6975 of 7194
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Originally Posted by dna88 View Post
 

Thanks guys really appreciate the input!

I can't do too much about the sub being bad as it was in a package deal so im gonna have to live with it. This is my first ht setup and honestly I think i've outdone myself. I think im going to go with a marantz NR 150. Anyone find some decent mounts for these pro 1000's? I see the ones that def tech sells but wtf $50 for those things? Or are the other ones really that bad.

 

I have no experience with other mounts, but the DefTech ones are very solid. 

post #6976 of 7194
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Originally Posted by martinj001 View Post

I have no experience with other mounts, but the DefTech ones are very solid. 
Yep, I own and use several sets of the ProMount 90's and they are awesome!
post #6977 of 7194
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Originally Posted by St-Paul View Post

How does the procenter hold up between the  promonitor 1000s? The match for the 1000s is a procenter 2000 but since i already have the Procenter 1000 and want to upgrade to the promonitor 1000s, i was wonderig if they would drown it out. I really dont want to park the Procenter 1000 and put it into disuse but im worried it will affect the sound quality if the 1000s are used instead of the 800s.
This is kind of an odd setup Im putting together right now as Its for my computer. So I am going with the ProCenter 1000 since it has to fit under my monitor and itll be dang near right in front of my face and the ProCenter 2000 is just too big. Now, in the surround setup in my office I have the ProMonitor 1000's with the ProCenter 2000 and its a perfect match. I originally built that out with the ProMonitor 800's and the ProCenter 1000 but quickly upgraded those and the difference was quite a bit.
post #6978 of 7194
I have the pro cinema 600 definitive speakers and hooked them up as suggested in setup 1 of the Manuel and as I raised volume on my denon to 65 db the receiver kept powering off . I checked all connections and switched to banana plugs using 14 gauge wire and to no success. I disconnected everything and just plugged unit in with no connections and receiver turns off and blinks red. Is it the microprocessor or did speakers effect receiver. ???
post #6979 of 7194
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Originally Posted by roberto63 View Post

I have the pro cinema 600 definitive speakers and hooked them up as suggested in setup 1 of the Manuel and as I raised volume on my denon to 65 db the receiver kept powering off . I checked all connections and switched to banana plugs using 14 gauge wire and to no success. I disconnected everything and just plugged unit in with no connections and receiver turns off and blinks red. Is it the microprocessor or did speakers effect receiver. ???

 

I would email Chet at Definitive Technology.  He is very helpful.

 

CPelkowski@definitivetech.com

post #6980 of 7194
Quick placement question: I am still debating if to wall-mount my TV in order to clear enough space at the bottom to place the PC2000 below / in front of the TV, or to take the easier and cheaper route of leaving the TV as is and wall-mounting the PC2000 just above the TV. I'm assuming from the sound perspective it would be better to keep the speaker below the TV and more at ear level...
post #6981 of 7194
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Originally Posted by Z-Mad View Post

Quick placement question: I am still debating if to wall-mount my TV in order to clear enough space at the bottom to place the PC2000 below / in front of the TV, or to take the easier and cheaper route of leaving the TV as is and wall-mounting the PC2000 just above the TV. I'm assuming from the sound perspective it would be better to keep the speaker below the TV and more at ear level...
Do whichever would put the speaker closer to ear level when youre sitting down.
post #6982 of 7194

Couple more questions guys!

1.When mounting my speakers side mount them to my ear level or higher? Ceiling mount them? Big difference in sound level or clarity?

2. 4 def tech 1000 +1 procenter 2000 +1 supercube 2000 what gauge of wiring? 12 gauge? 16 gauge??

post #6983 of 7194
I would recommend at ear height for best results and 16 gauge seems to be standard for runs under 59 feet
post #6984 of 7194
50 not 59
post #6985 of 7194
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Originally Posted by dna88 View Post

Couple more questions guys!
1.When mounting my speakers side mount them to my ear level or higher? Ceiling mount them? Big difference in sound level or clarity?
2. 4 def tech 1000 +1 procenter 2000 +1 supercube 2000 what gauge of wiring? 12 gauge? 16 gauge??

Font stage speakers - sitting ear level height for the tweeters.
Surround and rear speakers - standing ear level height for the tweeters.

12 gauge only necessary for longer runs over 50 feet as stated above.
post #6986 of 7194
So looking at the manual for my old speaker setups, my current surrounds frequency response is 160 Hz - 20 kHz.

Since my receiver limits me to set all of the crossovers of every speaker to be the same, I would have to set crossovers to above 160 correct? Will this cause any ill effect on the front promonitor 1000s or procenter 2000?

Or do you just recommend going 3.1 until I get better surrounds? (Have a bid on some pro monitor 800s, if that fails, waiting for a restock from baja)

Once I get the 800s, I assume I should set crossover to 100hz or 120hz for entire system due to that 'bottleneck'

That or get a proper receiver.

Thanks

Obviously I have no clue to how crossovers work.

Also suggestions on the new layout of speakers? See image
Edited by kharohz - 2/9/14 at 4:40am
post #6987 of 7194
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Originally Posted by kharohz View Post

So looking at the manual for my old speaker setups, my current surrounds frequency response is 160 Hz - 20 kHz.

Since my receiver limits me to set all of the crossovers of every speaker to be the same, I would have to set crossovers to above 160 correct? Will this cause any ill effect on the front promonitor 1000s or procenter 2000?

Or do you just recommend going 3.1 until I get better surrounds? (Have a bid on some pro monitor 800s, if that fails, waiting for a restock from baja)

Once I get the 800s, I assume I should set crossover to 100hz or 120hz for entire system due to that 'bottleneck'

That or get a proper receiver.

Thanks

Obviously I have no clue to how crossovers work.

Also suggestions on the new layout of speakers? See image

You will be okay setting the crossover to 100 or 80. Set all the speakers to small and let the sub handle the bass below 80 or 100. That is the most common for those who have to choose one crossover setting (Pioneer) receivers.

Many people here use the 800's as rears or surrounds. Baja usually gets new speakers in weekly or at least every other week.
post #6988 of 7194
I ran YPAO today on my PM800s and Prosub 800 and it set the crossover point at 80hz once, then 100hz the next run, then back to 80 on the final measurement and I just left it there. Sounds good to me for now. The PM800s without a sub sounded a little anemic with music but the DefTech sub fills the void nicely. Picked it up at BB as an open box item for $250. Can't add too much gear at one time due to the WAF so I just sneak in a piece here and there biggrin.gif
post #6989 of 7194
Can anyone show a diagram on how to best hook up pro cinema 600 speakers and on audessey set y does set up say No Sub ? I have the denon - 1613. Which is now the e-300 receiver ,
post #6990 of 7194
I have the 1613 and the 60 (not 600). Had the same problem at first. Check all the connections again and turn the volume on the sub up if you're still having issues. I've had the LR speakers wired through the sub and just with the LFE. No real difference.

Have you read the audyssey FAQ on this site?
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