*Official* Denon 5308 Thread - Page 52

Originally Posted by no-nonsense

Heck of a nice projector, as far as cables are concerned, I started out using Radio Shack $40 cables, went to Monster cable 600 series, then wound up with Monster cable 1000 series, with each change of cable there was an improvement in color saturation, and video noise has been reduced to the point it doesn't exist anymore, one of the most improved discs is Disneys Pocahontas, which went from visible noise to absloutely no-noise in the picture, which is now so good it comes near to HD quality, just stunning, so you folks can believe as you wish about cables, my beliefs are based upon looking and listening, not on someones opinion, or on a review someone wrote, I borrowed my buddies Oppo player, and while it was better then my old 5900, it didn't compare to the 5910ci, when installed in my system, if it had, I would have saved a bundle

Originally Posted by RickS

Thanks for the comment on the JVC.......really enjoying it!!! I usually stay away from all cable debates or comments but because of the vast difference in price of the HDMI cables IMHO don't see or hear any difference in my system between the high dollar cable and the cheap ones I've tried. I am very picky about A/V quality and have VMPS tweaked RM 40's speakers that are very revealing and use the 5308 as a pre with a 10K Verastarr 6ch amp for the fronts. The projector is also very revealing in the video department. Anyway, I just think IMHO the HDMI cables from 10$ to $300 range don't change what I see or hear in my HT......if I did I would buy all the high end cable needed since the rest of the equipment I use is fairly expensive. Maybe my old eyes and ears just can't notice the difference anymore....

Originally Posted by fmalczewski

Not sure if you are talking about HDMI cables above, but it's difficult to believe that a digital signal passed along one would end up being different as long as the cable had a reasonable amount of shielding. [I have the pretty Cobalt HDMI cables, by the way, so no cheapies for me either.]

That said, the more shielding, the less likely all the other digi-noise near your other components is likely to mess with the HDMI signals (audio/video), or non-digital signals for that matter. I don't even bother with the AM radio on my 5805 as there's so much digital noise coming from my various components that it's unlisteneable with the generic AM antenna that Denon provided. (But I can say I don't have any digital issues otherwise (unless that's what the cause of my occassional 5910 video hiccup, and I very much doubt that it is); all my cables are non-cheapies (the DenonLink cable seems to be the flimsiest, go figure), but non-crazy too).

Originally Posted by no-nonsense

I hardly think that $69 for Monster Cable 1000 series High Speed HDMI cable constitutes an expensive High End product, do you have the optional CinemaScope lens?

Originally Posted by RickS

Hi, well again I do agree that $69.00 is not that much......just saying you can get six cables for that price that don't look or sound any different in my system. I still have a Panamorph lens from my previous projector but will not be using it with my current setup. If I was watching only movies it would be an option but, with 60% of my viewing being HD NASCAR/Hockey/Drag Racing and....many more sports, I am going to stick with 16x9 screen.

Originally Posted by no-nonsense

If all you watch is broadcast HD, no wonder it makes no difference what cable you use, do you have any idea how compressed those signals are? in addition, broadcast is only 1080i, they don't have the bandwidth to do minimally compressed 1080i let alone 1080p, the difference comes when watching BLU-RAY MOVIES, or very high quality DVD MOVIES up-converted to 1080, and yes they are also compressed, but nothing like broadcast

Originally Posted by rudolpht

Lets make something clear. Length does matter and there is no physical difference between the newer standard "hi def" cables and any existing HDMI high quality cable. No extra extension, connectors used, etc. The marketing standard is to show testing that good quality cables meet a min standard (voluntarily). Existing non-"standard" cables will meet or in many cases far exceed the "standard." No special sauce. Good cables = good cables regardless of labels. Good cables can range dramatically in price.

Originally Posted by no-nonsense

... although HDMI is something new, the method of making cables to handle the bandwidth is not, the term High Speed Cable is just a marketing ploy used to make it seem as if it's something extra special...

Originally Posted by rudolpht

Then we are in violent agreement, except for the length issue, because impedance in 1080p runs to make a difference at 10' or 25' and it's not boolean all on or it doesn't work. You can get sparklies or green tint combining length and quality. I apologize for perception that you make repeated claims, e.g., best video solution on earth, length doesn't matter, but I'm glad we agree on the substance.

Originally Posted by akopperl

Does anyone know what the difference is between DRC and the Night mode?

They appear to be similar, but they are activated differently in the unit. Is one method better than the other?

Thanks

Originally Posted by shamus

Anyone know what CEC does?

You press the PLAY DVD button on the remote control, and the TV fires up, switches to the right input, and plays the DVD. Big deal? It is if you consider that the two-way communications in this case occurs over HDMI.
There is a little-known feature of HDMI called CE Control (CEC) that enables connected devices to control each other using the same HDMI cables that deliver high-definition video.

It's something that people don't know much about, says Steve Venuti, vice president of marketing for HDMI Licensing. But it is a big deal and retailers love it.

The technology, which comes from Philips, has been available for about a year, but has rarely been demonstrated. At CES, Panasonic demonstrated CEC at both the HDMI pavilion and Panasonic's own booth.

In one of the demos, a user plugs a video camera into a TV via HDMI. The TV automatically switches to the camcorder's input and displays the content. The user then controls the camera through the television via remote control. No extra programming, control cables, or IR repeaters are required. Theoretically, users should be able to enjoy this and similar scenarios if all HDMI devices on the network are CEC compliant.

Panasonic, which has built additional software on top of CEC, calls its technology EZSync. In addition to performing basic CEC tasks, EZSync products enjoy an extra level of functionality. Press the EZSync button on a Panasonic remote, and a menu comes up on the television screen.

Select HOME THEATER, for instance, and the TV's own speakers mute, the Panasonic surround-sound system fires up, and volume is now controlled through the receiver. Turn the receiver off, and the audio automatically switches back to the TV speakers. Panasonic will incorporate CEC and EZSync into every new A/V component that includes and HDMI connector.

Originally Posted by FilmMixer

It lets you control, say a CEC compliant player connected to a CEC receiver with the receivers remote through HDMI...

Here's one example:

http://www.cepro.com/article/panason...rol_over_hdmi/

Originally Posted by blownaway

NEW ISSUE....

I have the latest firmware installed on my 5308.

I also have successfully backed up my setting on the WEB Control through my browser, thanks to the help here

I have a successful wireless connection via the network settings.

I can stream internet radio.

Now I get the message on the screen ALL THE TIME..

Update retry
Connection fail

Seems that no matter what I do the screen on the 5308 say's that message all the time (unless I go into the GUI).

Has anybody heard of this?

I already did a hard re-set and it still didn't clear up the message.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by cydog3

Anyone use the Denon 5308ci with a Harmony one. If I hit the menu button it brings me in the menu but the up and down arrows dont work yet left and right does

Originally Posted by cydog3

No I havent seen that issue. Since you have already tried a Hard Reset I would call Denon support at this point

Originally Posted by cydog3

Anyone use the Denon 5308ci with a Harmony one. If I hit the menu button it brings me in the menu but the up and down arrows dont work yet left and right does

Originally Posted by blownaway

I'm using a Harmoy remote and my up & down buttons work just fine.

Be sure to download the latest Haromony software update if you haven't done so already.

One thing that I haven't figured out with the harmony is how to get all the buttons on Harmony to duplicate what's on the Denon zone remote.

For example you can't tune internate stations or even open up the GUI using the Harmony.

Have you figured out how to do this?

The Harmony has replaced all my other remotes except the Denon zone remote.

Originally Posted by cydog3

Anyone use the Denon 5308ci with a Harmony one. If I hit the menu button it brings me in the menu but the up and down arrows dont work yet left and right does

Originally Posted by dem

In Devices, choose Settings, then Customize Buttons, then change the up and down buttons to look like this:

Originally Posted by cydog3

I can open the GUI thats where my problem is once in the GUI (by hitting the menu key) I can go left and rigth but not up and down

Originally Posted by blownaway

How did you open up your GUI?

Do you have to be in the mode where the 5308 is the "device"?, then you push menu key?