*Official* Denon 5308 Thread - Page 106

I read this post which sort of confirms something very weird about the 5308, it does not allow applying PLIIx or 7Channel Stereo to Stereo sources? I thought this was one of the main points about PLIIx? The only way I can get 7-Channel Stereo applied (to a 2 channel/stereo source) is by pressing the respective button on the receiver. There is no option in the remote!
Please tell me I'm wrong and there is indeed a way to get 7 channels from a stereo source (say a CD).

which setting are you using for restorer, hq?

You are wrong.. go back and re-read the post you linked to.

It clearly confirms that you can apply IIx to Stereo Sources.

I just checked for a new firmware release since the 1.83 and my Denon responded with a new Add New Feature. So I agreed and then it spent a long time in the authentication mode. I never did figure out what it was adding. Anyone out there aware of what the new feature is?

Manny

Denon-link 4 ? It's been promised as a free upgrade to 5308 owners.

Update : Just checked my 5308 and there was nothing new to upgrade for me.

Well let me reword it. You can apply IIx to Stereo sources, but how can you do that with the remote? I tried yesterday and pressing STD gets me PLIIx+Cinema which is not what I want when listening to a CD. The 4806 had a button in the remote to change the Surround Back channel processing, so I could cycle and change "PLIIx-Music" I see no such option in the 5308 remote. Pressing THX gets me PLII-Cinema-THX which again is not what I want when listening to a CD.

Anyone know the solution to this dilemma?
Tks!

PS: The only way I could get PLIIx+Music when listening to a CD was to have the TV on and select it by using the Receiver menu which is a big no-no for me since when I listen to CD I want my TV off.

I think it is the Audyssey Dynamic Volume, Dynamic EQ, Syrius mini-receiver support and HDMI control. I can't remember now if this was standard in the 5308 when it was released.

Hi all! My mate has recently experienced a few subwoofer problems with his Denon 1909, and I also wanted to verify the same settings for my own AVC-A1HD (5308).

Its regarding the Ext In LFE setting. My mind is a little hazy on this matter, but what should the level be set to? Am I correct in thinking this affects the analog inputs AND LPCM through HDMI? (in which case its important its set right, for people who decode HD audio on-board their BD players, not to mention BD movies with a LPCM soundtrack).

What should it be set to? I seem to recall that the .1 LFE channel is recorded some 10dB lower than normal to save space on 5.1 soundtracks, and that it is boosted back by 10dB when it is decoded. I remember some early Pioneer AV amps did not boost the .1 LFE track as required. Could someone please enlighten me a little? :thumbsup:

I think...

EXT in (Sub not LFE) is only for analogs (not HDMI) and should normally be set to 15 (max) unless something isnt working right in your player. This would adjust the volume for the entire sub (redirected bass and LFE).

The other LFE setting your referring to would be for a digital connection and just for the .1. It should already be preset with it set to 0 for everything except DTS music which is -10 (per manual).

I am hoping someone knows the answer to this (relatively) simple question. I currently have an AVR-4806CI and use it in a 5.1 setup. I use the front L/R pre-amp outs to a dedicated stereo amp.

With the 5308CI, can I reassign the main L/R speaker terminals to be used for Z2 while using Z3? Basically I just want to have Z2/Z3 powered by the receiver while my dedicated amp takes care of my main L/R.

I have read the manual and "free amp assign" charts online until my eyes are crossed, and I cannot make sense of the data.

This is interesting....

Denons new receiver that incorporates IIz and DSX has no apparent hardware changes (at least not on the outside).






A quick read of the manual allows either back, height or wide and no combination of the three. You use the surround back channel speaker connection and make your choice of the three somewhere in the menu.

Maybe its not so impossible for a firmware to add these new features?

It's all in the DSP and system firmware... if they want to give it to us, I'm sure they could...

Wow a $700 price reduction in the MSRP from the 4309. Because of the economy or constructing it cheaper than its predecessor?

They gain an HDMI port in the front – we can't do that in firmware!
They also get our USB port in the back (along with the existing front) ---
--- and the nice front display blue indicator lights for what modes Audyssey is in. I wanted that!
--- and they get new separate touch screen buttons, on the remote, for Audyssey Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume!
--- and a sleep setting with a direct button on the remote.

I assume they will, given that they have the "Add New Features" section in the menu. If they don't, I'll be really mad, given that I bought my 5308CI a month and a half ago after waiting to jump on a new receiver from my eight year old 4800!!!!

Thankyou.

Whats wrong with this reply ? They figuring out how they will do this since probably a payment is needed since they need to pay for the license. We (avp owners) are the same boat. Don't see their we don't know yet how as bad service. And just because some info is on a site doesn't mean they can/will already comment on it. For example the 4810 and 4010 (bluray) are known about but not yet announced so they won't comment.

Daniel.

PS: first enjoy your free DL4 update.

Have we gotten Denon Link 4 yet? If we have I wasn't even aware of it. I hate firmware updates. I'm always afraid my 5308 is going to lock up or somehthing.

So how do you know if DL4 is enabled? On the 'ADD NEW FEATURE' screen, I see something like this....



[Feature] [Registration]
Upgrade Package Not registered
-Audessey Dynamic Volume
-DENON Link 4th

Upgrade Status ID: ***********


Can someone tell if I need to do anything else? What is the upgrade ID number for?

It's interesting how Denon has the 4310 listed on their A/V receivers page in a lower position than the 4308. Other than they dropping it 10 watts per channel, the 4310 appears far more feature rich than its so-called predecessor. Who in their right mind would pay an extra $700 MSRP for the older model? One would think that the retailers may "adjust" this difference somewhat, but still something just looks out of whack.

And, if Denon doesn't make available some of these new features to us "Reference" receiver customers, I'm going to be quite pissed...

Dunno, seems like you've gotten a whole bunch of new features over the past many many months, and for free no less. You've certainly already gotten way more than you paid for.

Remove power and it should powerup with a new messages (atleast the avp does) it starts with the extra bootup message 'Denon link 4'.

Daniel.

Apparently it's only being rolled out in Europe right now. Presumably the U.S. rollout will follow soon after. I've been checking every few days and so far, nothing on firmware or feature updates.

It just says the same thing? 'Upgrade package not registered.'

I think this 'upgrade package' also includes 'Audessey Dynamic Volume', and I suspect that here in Europe we have to pay for it.

Is there anything out there that uses link 4 yet?

Im sorry to say but when it comes to you who lives in the UK the Dynamic volume comes with a fee, And as far as i know the rest of Europe got it for free.

Since the DL4 download was an update and not an upgrade i was pretty sure that no matter where you live it was free of charge


//Mats

Looks like the only hardware change would be to the front panel to put the Audyssey Dynamic Surround Expansion Logo on the LED display.

After doing quite a bit of research, I have a feeling that ProLogic IIz is not going to be offered as an upgrade option for the 5308CI, mostly due to the fact that it'd require a ton of changes in the set up menu to support Audyssey calibrating the system properly. This is based on reading the manual for the 4310CI from cover to cover. Also it appears that the height channel would go in the Surround Back / Amp Assign, so I assume you could have height speakers or multiple zone, but not both and frankly I run my zone 2 all the time when I listen to music outside, so this wouldn't work for me at all.

Assuming Denon doesn't offer an upgrade option for Pro Logic IIz, I won't be too mad (even though I bought my 5308CI just two months ago), from everything I've read, it doesn't add much to the sound stage and it's costly given that you have to buy 2 additional speakers.

First, I just bought my 5308 a few months ago. It already came with the "upgraded features" announced back in October of last year. Second, I didn't say I was looking for something for nothing. I would fully expect an "upgrade" cost for adding such features. This is exactly why it was advertised as being "feature upgradeable". I'm saying I would be pissed if they do not offer a "feature upgrade" option for their "reference" A/V receiver. This model isn't expected to be replaced until sometime next year. If this is the case, do they really expect new 5308 customers to buy a product that is lacking features of the lower-end products? Doesn't sound like it would make sense to me. If you remember, they offered such a paid "feature upgrade" for owners of the 3808 and 4308 when they provided Audyssey Dynamic EQ and Volume feature along with Rhapsody and Sirius radio. Do they really want to orphan their high-end customers? In today's economy, I think the answer is a resounding no.

I hope your right. I talked to the Denon rep today and he wasn't sure if they were going to offer an upgrade for the new Audyssey or Dolby Pro Logic IIz. He did mention however that the AVR 5310CI is coming out sometime in the fall of this year.

A 5310CI this fall? That would be big news.

Am I correct in assuming that if I only have a 5.1 system, Dolby Pro Logic IIz will serve no benefit to me?