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post #31 of 304
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Originally Posted by bigjazzfan1 View Post

I could not believe how biased he was being in favor of Real Madrid.
It was bad enough nobody showed the Barcelona match (Not even shown as a repeat). But his commentary so in favor of Madrid was very lame.

Was he hyping up David Beckham?
post #32 of 304
That why I watch the LALiga games on Worldsport HD they are not fans of the top teams and are not bias.

I did notice the 2nd to last week of the Laliga season WorldsportHD did the Barcalona game live in HD, but they also had HD cameras at the Real Madrid game also for highlights in HD, and probably same thing for the last week also. MediaPro is test more HD cameras so when GolTV can afford the cost they will get an HD channel, unless ESPN out bids them next time.
post #33 of 304
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Originally Posted by bigjazzfan1 View Post

I was watching the final of Real Madrid (where they won the league) the other day. It was either GOL or FSC. I forget which.

One of the annoucers is from the UK (sounded either Scotish or Brit Cockney).
He's a regular on the US channel. An older guy. I think he was on the Charlie Rose talk show prior to last years World Cup.

I could not believe how biased he was being in favor of Real Madrid.
It was bad enough nobody showed the Barcelona match (Not even shown as a repeat). But his commentary so in favor of Madrid was very lame.

And he got so over the top excited and carried away in his comment the other
announcer just sat back and kept quiet. I forget some of stupid comment but with the heavy accent they sounded ever more stupid.bjf

That's Ray Hudson. A couple of points: the Scottish are also British. They may not like to admit it, but they are. And Hudson is a (very excitable) Geordie. Geordie's are from Newcastle (NE England). Most Brits I know think he's ridiculous too.
But you're right, O'Brien is worse.
My favourite from WC 06? From the first England game and the affect of the summer heat on players: 'Hargreaves will be okay as he plays in Germany, so he'll be used to it.' He also referred to such illustrious English players as 'Michael Beckham' and 'Wayne Rodney'.
post #34 of 304
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Originally Posted by bigjazzfan1 View Post

I hear in the UK they can actually turn off the commentary and just hear the crowds cheering. Wouldn't that be great.

I would love that with all sports
post #35 of 304
I just read that Setanta Sports USA channel was just uplinked for testing to Dish Network satellite slot 110 West as Channel 406 in SD. The rumor is that it will be available for subscription in July.
post #36 of 304
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Originally Posted by A_Dude View Post

I just read that Setanta Sports USA channel was just uplinked for testing to Dish Network satellite slot 110 West as Channel 406 in SD. The rumor is that it will be available for subscription in July.

If that becomes available in the NE, my rugby-mad friends will be very happy indeed. Especially if it happens pre-WC/6 Nations.
post #37 of 304
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Originally Posted by Brainodo View Post

If that becomes available in the NE, my rugby-mad friends will be very happy indeed. Especially if it happens pre-WC/6 Nations.

I'm not sure what you mean by "the NE".

If you mean a specific region, Setanta is uplinked to Dish Network's satellite that is visible throughout the 48 states.

If you mean Rugby World Cup in September 2007, then it is very likely it will be available before then. I don't know if Setanta is showing it, I don't personally keep up with Rugby.
post #38 of 304
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Originally Posted by theguest View Post

I would love that with all sports

You can do that with a true 5.1 feed.
post #39 of 304
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Originally Posted by A_Dude View Post

I'm not sure what you mean by "the NE".

If you mean a specific region, Setanta is uplinked to Dish Network's satellite that is visible throughout the 48 states.

If you mean Rugby World Cup in September 2007, then it is very likely it will be available before then. I don't know if Setanta is showing it, I don't personally keep up with Rugby.

I meant the North East, was confused by your use of 'West'. And yes, the Rugby World Cup and the Six Nations.
Thanks for the update. I'll let my friend know.
post #40 of 304
I think our only hope for an FSC HD is is all EPL games go HD and it gets in the contract that the re trans is HD.
post #41 of 304
I just can't imagine that FSC would go HD, or offer any HD programming--as cheap as they are. My god, their channel is not even SD!
post #42 of 304
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Originally Posted by Steve Scherrer View Post

I just can't imagine that FSC would go HD, or offer any HD programming--as cheap as they are. My god, their channel is not even SD!

What is it then?
post #43 of 304
That announcer was Ray Hudson that I mentioned doing the Real Madrid final match.

Just terrible to listen too.

He wasn't so much hyping Beckham as just hyping Madrid like they were so
deserving. And pretty much had nothing to say about Barcelona.

The fact that Real Madrid just lucked out and has had several soap opera
seasons and this one topped them all. It just seemed he was way over
the top with his pro Real Madrid bits.

And he was soooooo hyped up you'd think he was on something.

I don't like dull BBC type announcers either but this guy was just too much.

I wish I had a 5.1 setup to delete the announcers all together.
Hopefully the Sky UK choice of a no annoucer channel with take off.

Watching Wimbledon today on ESPN.
Mary Carillo had more stupid comments about the Russian "Safin".
I have to think and recall all the slams she won and her best rating as
a player to qualify her stupid comments as a tv commentator.

And then there's John McEnroe and his endless comments. lol

It's like none of them have an off switch.

I'm not sure what is more annoying these stupid commentators.
Or ESPN's giant graphics covering the actual TV program I want to see.
And the f***ing endless running crawl at the bottom.

bjf
post #44 of 304
I have to agree. FSC isn't great.

But worse yet is GOL tv channel.
It's about one step away from a 1930's test pattern resolution.
And there are days when you think it's nearly a black/white image.

Setanta falls between the two.
Setanta's color is really intense.
But it's clarity is not even as good on FSC when they show the same matches.

FSE isn't as good as FSC when they show the same match.

BTW, the above is via directv.

Looking forward to DISH getting Setanta soon.
It might have better picture on DISH than directv.

What I would really like is to pay and get direct feeds via satellite from a Euro company that would make the major matches in a season pass type setup.
Just the feed. HD I'd even pay a bit more for. And no announcers.

There is a channel nobody gets in North America.
It's called "Canal+ (plus)" that carries a lot of Spain/French/Italian and other countries with very good coverage. It's a pay channel like HBO.
It would be great if they would offer it to the states.

bjf
post #45 of 304
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Originally Posted by Steve Scherrer View Post

I just can't imagine that FSC would go HD, or offer any HD programming--as cheap as they are. My god, their channel is not even SD!

Asked before, if not SD then what is it?

I think once a majority of their programing is available in HD, they will make the jump.

That would require all EPL matches, most FA Cup, all MLS matches, most of what they show from Italy and Argentina to be HD and maybe even some USL coverage.

I think once all MLS and EPL are HD, er might have a chance.

Just need costs to come down on HD production.
post #46 of 304
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

Asked before, if not SD then what is it?

I think once a majority of their programing is available in HD, they will make the jump.

That would require all EPL matches, most FA Cup, all MLS matches, most of what they show from Italy and Argentina to be HD and maybe even some USL coverage.

I think once all MLS and EPL are HD, er might have a chance.

Just need costs to come down on HD production.

I was making a snide comment about the image on FSC--it is so blurry and hazy as to be almost unwatchable. Basically, you see little colored blobs running around chasing a blob that kind of looks like a ball. (OK--I may be overstating it, but the image is pretty poor...)
post #47 of 304
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Originally Posted by Steve Scherrer View Post

I was making a snide comment about the image on FSC--it is so blurry and hazy as to be almost unwatchable. Basically, you see little colored blobs running around chasing a blob that kind of looks like a ball. (OK--I may be overstating it, but the image is pretty poor...)

Yeah, some of the feeds are quite bad, I will give you that.

Actually the more i think about it, its not only production, but redistribution of HD that would help a channel like FSC. They need to be able to save hours upon hours of HD games for replays and tape delays.

It seems that HD syndication is a problem with only Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune being HD and only in certain areas.

Has the HD syndication issues been resolved yet?
post #48 of 304
you know, I mentioned earlier in the thread that the Women's World Cup is being produced in SD widescreen. Well, so are all other FIFA tournaments, including the U-20 World Cup starting tomorrow in Canada. EPL has been produced in widescreen for years, Bundesliga is SD widescreen and occasionally HD, and La Liga and Serie A are also heading that way. My point is, these US soccer channels don't need to wait (a long long time) until they can have most of their matches in HD to start such a channel. They can launch HD outlets (the only way to broadcast widescreen in American cable/sat) and upconvert a 576i widescreen feed from Europe to either 720p or 1080i most of the time. It wouldn't even cost them as much bandwidth as HD. I see this happening after a couple of years when all the major cable networks have gone HD.
post #49 of 304
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Originally Posted by ReplayJanitor View Post

you know, I mentioned earlier in the thread that the Women's World Cup is being produced in SD widescreen. Well, so are all other FIFA tournaments, including the U-20 World Cup starting tomorrow in Canada. EPL has been produced in widescreen for years, Bundesliga is SD widescreen and occasionally HD, and La Liga and Serie A are also heading that way. My point is, these US soccer channels don't need to wait (a long long time) until they can have most of their matches in HD to start such a channel. They can launch HD outlets (the only way to broadcast widescreen in American cable/sat) and upconvert a 576i widescreen feed from Europe to either 720p or 1080i most of the time. It wouldn't even cost them as much bandwidth as HD. I see this happening after a couple of years when all the major cable networks have gone HD.

I would love to see them do something like this, take the 16x9 SD feeds and put them on an HD channel. Like ESPN2 has done with the French Open, Wimbledon, and part of the Australian Open in Tennis.

I just don't think there is enough ratings and ad money for Rupert and Fox Sports to invest the money and equip into an HD channel, then trying to get carriage on cable systems. Once D* new birds are up, the space for anything going HD will be available, but for the mean time, bandwidth is at a premium and I don't see an HD soccer channel getting carriage over other coming HD channels.

Hopefully in the next year, I would write to Fox, but I've never once gotten a reply from them as to a compliment/complaint.
post #50 of 304
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Originally Posted by bigjazzfan1 View Post

I have to agree. FSC isn't great.

But worse yet is GOL tv channel.
It's about one step away from a 1930's test pattern resolution.
And there are days when you think it's nearly a black/white image.


bjf


I agree GOL's PQ is usually very bad, but their feeds from the Copa America have been noticeably better, at least on D*. Maybe they are downconversions of an HD production?
post #51 of 304
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Originally Posted by plastered plasma View Post

I agree GOL's PQ is usually very bad, but their feeds from the Copa America have been noticeably better, at least on D*. Maybe they are downconversions of an HD production?

I would love to have GolTV. its offered on some Comcast systems, but not mine.
post #52 of 304
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Originally Posted by plastered plasma View Post

I agree GOL's PQ is usually very bad, but their feeds from the Copa America have been noticeably better, at least on D*. Maybe they are downconversions of an HD production?

I caught part of a live C.A. match on one of our local, 480i OTA Spanish networks the other day, and I was thinking the same thing.

It looked surprisingly VERY good, especially upon the closer-up shots. Very sharp and lots of detail (and this being on a large, HD display).
post #53 of 304
Copa America is being shown on three Latin channels via directv.

Univision has the best picture quality.
But they I believe are only showing matches from their group.
So far anyway.

Then the replay on FSE would be next best picture.

The GOL comes in as usual last place in picture quality.

Univision besides the best picture has a great in studio host and party
atmosphere. Similar to what they did for the World Cup last year.
And like last year they had the best SD picture quality in the states.

bjf
post #54 of 304
Copa America looks good, even streaming on the internet. They have some good super slow motion replays, too. Maybe it's shot with HD cameras, but I doubt any of the production is HD after that.
post #55 of 304
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Originally Posted by bigjazzfan1 View Post

Copa America is being shown on three Latin channels via directv.

Univision has the best picture quality.

Thanks for the heads up, I'm not gonna see any of the US matches here, but its nice to see at least a match or two from the Copa America.

I just found out that the U-20 World Cup is on ESPNU, another channel I don't get from Comcast. Along with Galavision and Telefutura for Copa America, MLS, and U-20 WC. Also, as stated in earlier posts, GolTV is not available from my Comcast system. Very little coverage of these national tourney's because i refuse inferior PQ from D* or E*

Frustrated...
post #56 of 304
Is your SD Comcast cable that much better than D* or E*?

I know the SD channels on the local cable company are terrible.
Analog or Digital. Both are much worse the satellite.

Only the HD channels look good.

bjf
post #57 of 304
CBC in Canada is showing FIFA U-20 World Cup in widescreen on main network. Also their schedule shows two quaterfinals, semifinals, third place match and final in HD. Officially there is no International HD feed but I guess CBC will do these six games in HD.

Here is the schedule http://www.cbc.ca/sports/fifau20/schedule/
post #58 of 304
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Originally Posted by Steve Scherrer View Post

I was making a snide comment about the image on FSC--it is so blurry and hazy as to be almost unwatchable. Basically, you see little colored blobs running around chasing a blob that kind of looks like a ball. (OK--I may be overstating it, but the image is pretty poor...)


FSC???

I am not sure why, but since I switched to FiOS it looks a lot better. Yes, when I was with Cox, it was like you described, but now it is better with Verizon. GolTV, on the other hand, is horrible and horrendous. I was in Europe during the WC and they were showing them in widescreen, their PQ looked better than what we have here. Of course not for the world cup, it was HD here but for WS SD it looked really good.
post #59 of 304
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Originally Posted by CKNA View Post

CBC in Canada is showing FIFA U-20 World Cup in widescreen on main network. Also their schedule shows two quaterfinals, semifinals, third place match and final in HD. Officially there is no International HD feed but I guess CBC will do these six games in HD.

Here is the schedule http://www.cbc.ca/sports/fifau20/schedule/

Damn, would love to see these on TSN HD cause then, maybe, just maybe ESPN2 would show the HD coverage.
post #60 of 304
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Originally Posted by Posty-McPost View Post

Do the women even play qualifiers? If so, do they make a sound?

They used the CONCACAF Women's Gold Cup as the qualifier.
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