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post #61 of 304
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Originally Posted by TVJunkyMonkey View Post

FSC???

I am not sure why, but since I switched to FiOS it looks a lot better. Yes, when I was with Cox, it was like you described, but now it is better with Verizon. GolTV, on the other hand, is horrible and horrendous. I was in Europe during the WC and they were showing them in widescreen, their PQ looked better than what we have here. Of course not for the world cup, it was HD here but for WS SD it looked really good.

I know FOIS has better PQ for everything, SD and HD, but I've heard that the Moto 6416 STB does better PQ for SD than the 6412.

What STB did V* give ya?
post #62 of 304
FSC and Gol TV look pretty good on Dish Network. When I had Comcast, FSC was unwatchable due to issues from the compression and that may be why you guys have issues with them.

On Dish Network, they look pretty good. Any issues with picture on individual programs seem to come from the production and not FSC or Gol TV.
post #63 of 304
So can anyone with Setanta let me know if everything is 4:3, or do they have widescreen broadcasts? I am debating getting Setanta for the 2007 RWC. I know the RWC is filmed in HD this year, but I would settle for a widescreen feed. (no chance of HD coverage in the US I would think).
post #64 of 304
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Originally Posted by rustycruiser View Post

So can anyone with Setanta let me know if everything is 4:3, or do they have widescreen broadcasts? I am debating getting Setanta for the 2007 RWC. I know the RWC is filmed in HD this year, but I would settle for a widescreen feed. (no chance of HD coverage in the US I would think).

When I had it it was 4:3 stretched to full screen on my tv. Definately not 16x9.
post #65 of 304
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Originally Posted by rustycruiser View Post

So can anyone with Setanta let me know if everything is 4:3, or do they have widescreen broadcasts? I am debating getting Setanta for the 2007 RWC. I know the RWC is filmed in HD this year, but I would settle for a widescreen feed. (no chance of HD coverage in the US I would think).

I saw a free preview on D* at my sisters house and it was 4x3

Also back to the HD Topic...

I got an email reply from Altitude S&E who covers the Rapids and they have no plans in the near future to broadcast Rapids matches in HD
post #66 of 304
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

Thanks for the heads up, I'm not gonna see any of the US matches here, but its nice to see at least a match or two from the Copa America.

I just found out that the U-20 World Cup is on ESPNU, another channel I don't get from Comcast. Along with Galavision and Telefutura for Copa America, MLS, and U-20 WC. Also, as stated in earlier posts, GolTV is not available from my Comcast system. Very little coverage of these national tourney's because i refuse inferior PQ from D* or E*

Frustrated...

I have to say, when you are recovered, you should consider switching to Dish Network, DirecTV, or Verizon FIOS (if the latter is available in your location).

It sounds like your local cable system has none of the channels you want.
post #67 of 304
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Originally Posted by rustycruiser View Post

So can anyone with Setanta let me know if everything is 4:3, or do they have widescreen broadcasts? I am debating getting Setanta for the 2007 RWC. I know the RWC is filmed in HD this year, but I would settle for a widescreen feed. (no chance of HD coverage in the US I would think).

i have had setanta for about a year. all 4:3.
post #68 of 304
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Originally Posted by A_Dude View Post

I have to say, when you are recovered, you should consider switching to Dish Network, DirecTV, or Verizon FIOS (if the latter is available in your location).

It sounds like your local cable system has none of the channels you want.

As i said in another thread, if D* goes back to full PQ with the new bird and gets all the HD channels I currently have, then I will look at switching, but for now, its Comcast.
post #69 of 304
Setanta is always 4:3 aspect.

There have been a few rare occasions where they take a 16:9 and squish
it to fit 4:3.

You never see anything letterboxed or 16:9.

Their WC feed was from Germany (in German) but was still SD 4:3.

There big thing is content over picture quality.
And they are big in sports bars and PPV for Euro events.

HD is not a priority and all the major decisions for Setanta come from the UK.
The US is just a satellite of the parent company.

They've run some very oddball UK sports on Setanta US when really nobody
cares. Why on Earth they bother is a puzzle. Obviously if the US was in charge
they would be doing that. They would show Soccer an Rugby only probably.

The Setanta US people seem very nice and helpful.
Just wish the UK folks would let them do more content and HD wise.

bjff
post #70 of 304
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

Thanks for the heads up, I'm not gonna see any of the US matches here, but its nice to see at least a match or two from the Copa America.

I just found out that the U-20 World Cup is on ESPNU, another channel I don't get from Comcast. Along with Galavision and Telefutura for Copa America, MLS, and U-20 WC. Also, as stated in earlier posts, GolTV is not available from my Comcast system. Very little coverage of these national tourney's because i refuse inferior PQ from D* or E*

Frustrated...

All of those are available on FIOS (except for Telefutura). I've been very busy recording many of these.

Update --- Found Telefutura, it was in the low end of the channels (21), the PQ for all of these is good to very good (GolTv is the worst).
post #71 of 304
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Originally Posted by Flambe View Post

I love that between FSC, GolTV, Setanta, and occasionally ESPN/ABC, I get coverage of a lot of great domestic and foreign soccer games.

However it's disappointing that the games are so rarely shown in HD, especially since I know that at the source they're nearly always recorded that way!

I used to subscribe to VOOM back in the day and loved watching the Spanish Premier League in HD.

Does anyone know if GolTV, Setanta, FSC, or any other soccer-themed channel is thinking about converting to HD broadcasts?

FYI I'm on DirecTV, but happy to pick up any provider who's going to cover the big events (Gold Cup, Champion's Cup, Champion's League, Copa Americana, European league games, Euro Cup, etc) in HD.

Thanks!!


So, I am a fan of Setanta Sports on D*, I am a big football fan. I only subscribe during the season.

I emailed them over the weekend and asked if they will be broadcasting any games in HD soon.

The answer was not in the foreseeable future, HD is very expensive and they are a small company who could not afford to offer it.

I then asked them well if they rebroadcast Skysports broadcasts that are already in HD where is the prohibitive cost coming from, certainly not the production costs.

They answered: We will not be offering any HD anytime soon.

Just thought I would pass this along, oh well. Maybe D* will start offering Premiership games in HD on demand/ppv.

I would think there are enough fans who would pay for such a service. Of course when the new birds are up and functional.
post #72 of 304
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Originally Posted by emrmc View Post

Just thought I would pass this along, oh well. Maybe D* will start offering Premiership games in HD on demand/ppv.

I would think there are enough fans who would pay for such a service. Of course when the new birds are up and functional.

Great info, thanks

If D* goes back full rez and offers stuff like that, the i might be tempted to change
post #73 of 304
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

Very little coverage of these national tourney's because i refuse inferior PQ from D* or E*

Frustrated...

What is more inferior- the black screen because you refuse to pay or the actual moving images on your screen you would get from D* or E*? Trust me, I'm watching all those channels and I really can tell the ball from the players from the referee, etc.

And for everyone stating there is no demand, why are there two full-time soccer channels and one PPV, almost exclusively broadcasting soccer? Plus the FSE and ESPNDep channels that have soccer rights packages different than their English counterparts?

BTW, my D* HR20 keeps wanting to record "UEFA" shows ESPN Deportes on 423 (or is it 432?), but I can't find anywhere how to get the channel. Last time I looked, fairly recently, it isn't listed on D*'s website.
post #74 of 304
If you have the English channel package you have to get the Spanish channel add on package to get ESPN Deportes channel 432.

bjf
post #75 of 304
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Originally Posted by auribe14 View Post

What is more inferior- the black screen because you refuse to pay or the actual moving images on your screen you would get from D* or E*? Trust me, I'm watching all those channels and I really can tell the ball from the players from the referee, etc.

And for everyone stating there is no demand, why are there two full-time soccer channels and one PPV, almost exclusively broadcasting soccer? Plus the FSE and ESPNDep channels that have soccer rights packages different than their English counterparts?

BTW, my D* HR20 keeps wanting to record "UEFA" shows ESPN Deportes on 423 (or is it 432?), but I can't find anywhere how to get the channel. Last time I looked, fairly recently, it isn't listed on D*'s website.

Its not just the soccer channels PQ, but ALL their channels PQ.
post #76 of 304
FSC should offer the games HD as their sister company Sky Sports is showing them in HD. I would love to see my beloved Man Utd. in HD. However, they can keep the Arsenal and Liverpool games in SD. LOL

Setanta's reply above about being a small company is BS just look at all the rights they own around the world. Plus they charge $15 dollars a month and how much of their content is closed circuit only.

I had Dish Network since 1996 till last January, when I joined Comcast. FSC is absolutely horrible on Commycast. Every few seconds I loose audio, so Fox football fon-in is totally un-watchable as you miss most of the conversation. Also, I keep hearing a kind of redial sound, usually at least 3 or 4 times an hour. I am also experiencing picture freezes. I have bitched and bitched and I have had about 30 different answers and 6 visits from techs and my problem is still not solved. So I guess I will be going back to Dish.

FSC on damand would be a nice addition. Are you listening,you Commies up their in Philadelphia.

By the way I am in the Nashville, TN area.
post #77 of 304
i get the same dial noise, i've just learned to tune it out, I don't have the audio drop outs that you having, but the PQ could be much better.
post #78 of 304
I'm watching FSC (Fox Soccer Channel) right now on Dish Network.

They have a live interview with a player, and the SD PQ is as good as I have seen on any channel.

Two conclusions:
- Dish Network is not deteriorating the PQ on FSC in any way.
- A lot of the cruddy quality we see on channels like FSC is probably in the source material, or in the transmission links within the channel's own processing.

PS Now I am just waiting for Dish to make Setanta Sports available for subscription on Channel 406. I am hoping for this coming week...
post #79 of 304
I've found this while searching Google for 'GolTV HD'

It looks like a license granted by the CRTC for HD broadcasting of GolTV

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/De...db2006-239.htm
post #80 of 304
for the half dozen or so soccer fans on the forum, tuesday night on the fox football phone in show they said that fsc is working towards putting the premier league on in hd and that "it will happen sooner rather than later".
post #81 of 304
I'd kill for FSC in HD. The SD version on my comcast is such compressed garbage that it's unwatchable at times.
post #82 of 304
That's great news! I'd love to see the EPL in HD!!!
post #83 of 304
I posted this over on dbstalk and maybe someone here can answer:

But a couple questions since the games are already in HD over in England:
1) Who owns the rights to the HD transmissions over here? Or to get it to here?
2) Does this mean that FSC is going to go HD? If so this would be a welcome surprise since there hasn't been any mention of it.
3) If FSC doesn't go HD, where will the games be shown in HD?
post #84 of 304
On the Fox Football Fone in show this week, a caller brought up the HD issue & Nick stated it was in process & that FSC would be going to HD "sooner than later".

Take it for what you will
post #85 of 304
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Originally Posted by mx6bfast View Post

I posted this over on dbstalk and maybe someone here can answer:

But a couple questions since the games are already in HD over in England:
1) Who owns the rights to the HD transmissions over here? Or to get it to here?
2) Does this mean that FSC is going to go HD? If so this would be a welcome surprise since there hasn't been any mention of it.
3) If FSC doesn't go HD, where will the games be shown in HD?

I don't have any solid answers for you but here are some realistic assumptions.

1. To this point the U.S. HD transmission rights for the EPL have not been sold seperately from the SD ones. So I'd guess that FSC owns the HD rights for it's SD games and so on.

2. It hasn't been mentioned specifically but when the Fox Sports master control facility in Houston is completed there would certainly be enough infrastructer on Fox's end to make it happen.

3. Probably nowhere in the U.S. (only in the UK). Since Setanta does not have the $$ to do anything in HD the EPL most likely will not be shown in HD until FSC goes HD. It's possible that a channel like HDNet could pickup the HD re-broadcast (not live) rights but who knows if the EPL would even entertain that idea.
post #86 of 304
Some reason here in NYC on Cablevision, FSC SD actually shows pretty good. Clearly from the PQ I can tell that Fox Soccer Match Day and Super Sunday+ is shot in HD, the quality is usually very sharp and clean, relative to say Fox Soccer Report in the mornings. Also for the EPL you can tell when a game is in HD for the same reason, the game scoreboard in the upper corner of the screen is usually sharper and whiter as well as opposed to an SD game where it is like fuzzy and hazy, liquid mud.
post #87 of 304
I love the Review show that is on Sunday nights. Does anyone know if this is broadcast in HD? Thanks.
post #88 of 304
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Originally Posted by mikeyworm View Post

I love the Review show that is on Sunday nights. Does anyone know if this is broadcast in HD? Thanks.

Are you talking about Super Sunday plus that's one I mentioned above, it surely looks like it's shot in HD and transmitted to us in SD, the PQ is very sharp, bright and clean via 480p on my LCD.

If you are talking on the other hand about EPL Review Show, that looks pretty good as well, along with the Premier League Preview Show but both originate from the UK, might be 576p PAL over there. It does look very good as well. Guess a UK person can tell us if its shown in HD over the pond.
post #89 of 304
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Originally Posted by DB2 View Post

1. To this point the U.S. HD transmission rights for the EPL have not been sold seperately from the SD ones. So I'd guess that FSC owns the HD rights for it's SD games and so on.

would this also mean that they don't have to "delay" the game (at least the HD version) by a couple of days
post #90 of 304
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Originally Posted by memnoch View Post

would this also mean that they don't have to "delay" the game (at least the HD version) by a couple of days

Correct.
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