The OFFICIAL JBL Owners Thread - Page 42

Originally Posted by Krazyboy

Hi all. A couple of months ago I upgraded my HT with JBL Studio L speakers. L890 mains, LC2 center, L820 surrounds. First let me say they are great speakers and at the prices you can buy them at, are an incredible bargain IMO. My only concern at all (if concern is even the right word) is what impedance I should be setting my AVR at (Onkyo 805) to get the most out of these speakers and to not overwork my amp. Why the concern? There have been a couple of reviews and tests of the Studio L series speakers that say impedance testing shows their nominal rating closer to a 4 ohm setting and to be careful with your amp set-up. They are rated at 8 ohm by JBL but test more like 4 ohm. Is this a marketing decision by JBL? I don't know but it has made me switch back and forth between settings on my AVR. As far as SOUND goes I think they sound better set at 8 ohms but I'm sure somebody here will say it's in my head. Today I came across this post in another forum and it makes me think I should stick with JBL's recommendation. This post refers to a blind speaker test done by the well-known Craigsub (whose tests I respect and thank him for--in fact I just today purchased a new sub based at least partially on his sub tests). Check this out and I would appreciate any comments--thanks. http://forum.ascendacoustics.com/showthread.php?t=2965

Originally Posted by DBryant

T-nice job on the grills. Big improvement!

Originally Posted by tatanka01

The black grill actually came from JBL that way. I wasn't able to figure out how to get a whole set of those and it would have been pretty expensive anyway, so I've ditched the JBL grills. The grills I made look a lot better than the silver, but they give everything a very "black box generic" look.

It may be possible to replace just the cloth on the JBL grills, but it'd be very time consuming. The frames are cheap plastic and they've used a lot of glue to hold things together. The replacement cost of a Stadium grill is about $35 as I recall, and I've only got about $900 in the whole 7.1 setup, so dropping a couple hundred in grills probably isn't real practical.

I do love the sound, though, and that's what counts.

Originally Posted by filecat13

Just a side note to all you JBL nuts. FedEx just delivered the JBL Eons that I ordered for the Education Department here at my nonporift. We'll use them in our after school programs and for our alternative services for youth programs.

We got five pairs (ten) of these

http://www.jblpro.com/eong2/EON10G2.htm

and one complete E-system 15

http://www.jblpro.com/pages/mi/e_sys...tems_index.htm

Even kids in distressed and violent neighborhoods should get to hear JBLs. After all, music hath charms...

Originally Posted by 4DHD

But one component that can have a big impact on the sound, are various types of caps. And how they are used in the circuit.

Originally Posted by krabapple

I suppose a circuit can be badly designed enough for that to make a difference.

http://www.provide.net/~djcarlst/abx_caps.htm

Originally Posted by Mudslide

Yes it has. Nevertheless you got your shot in. More experience talking and still no controlled environments and tests. We just do not need to be filling open minds, those new folks coming into the audio world, with unproven opinions stated as fact.

Originally Posted by DBryant

I wasn't taking a shot at you.

I use to be an electronics engineer so I have some knowledge on electronics down to the component level. Although, I have forgotten much in 10 years.

Receivers sound different. Some receivers are a better match with certain speakers. That is purely subjective.

Originally Posted by DBryant

I wasn't taking a shot at you.

I use to be an electronics engineer so I have some knowledge on electronics down to the component level. Although, I have forgotten much in 10 years.

Receivers sound different. Some receivers are a better match with certain speakers. That is purely subjective.

Originally Posted by filecat13

Here's what ten EON G2 boxes look like.

Originally Posted by filecat13

Yes, make that two requests.

Originally Posted by filecat13

The cherry L8400 sub arrived on Thursday, and I had a chance to carry it downstairs today and set it up. It's fairly compact, just 5/8 of an inch or so bigger than the HTPS400 in each dimension, and likewise it's a sealed cube.

The cherry finish looks close to the cherry finish on some of my PT800s, thought perhaps slightly less convincing up close. From a foot or two away, it looks very good.

Set up was simple, and the short manual was more than adequate to cover all three connection possibilities. I used the simple approach with "line in" and "LFE" so that my pre/pro could do all the crossover work according to THX standard.

After some extensive listening, I have a few observations.
1) This is a far better sub than anything JBL sells below it, and it's much better than the S120PII.
2) This sub really can produce decent volume at 22Hz.
3) Cone excursion is precise and tightly controlled. The thick rubber surround, rigid cone, SFG, and (surprisingly) fiberglass voice coil work together well to produce a tight, controlled, powerful bass.
4) Its output, while less than the HTPS400 in brute strength, punch, and slam, was nearly as articulate and quick--a major surprise.
5) It is less "musical" than the PS1400, but then so is just about everything else. That's not to say it is NOT musical, it just doesn't match the PS1400.

I think, in most situations, two or four of these L8400Ps would be a better choice than one monster subwoofer. When following the procedures in the Harman International white paper on multisubs, a pair of these will fill a good sized room much more evenly and with greater distributed power than a single supersub.

For the money, I am not disappointed in the least, and this will find regular duty around the house, starting first as sub #4 (center rear wall) in the downstairs HT.

Originally Posted by chachanyc

currently i own a pair of jbl northridge tower speakers nd310 was wondering if i placed them on the foor horizontally would it affect sound quality.I,m currently usung them for my front speakers in my home theater setup. i want to increase my projection screen size and the only way these speakers would fit is to lay them down on their side.if anyone can help thanks

Originally Posted by filecat13

The cherry L8400 sub arrived on Thursday,

After some extensive listening, I have a few observations.
1) This is a far better sub than anything JBL sells below it, and it's much better than the S120PII.
2) This sub really can produce decent volume at 22Hz.
3) Cone excursion is precise and tightly controlled. The thick rubber surround, rigid cone, SFG, and (surprisingly) fiberglass voice coil work together well to produce a tight, controlled, powerful bass.
4) Its output, while less than the HTPS400 in brute strength, punch, and slam, was nearly as articulate and quick--a major surprise.
5) It is less "musical" than the PS1400, but then so is just about everything else. That's not to say it is NOT musical, it just doesn't match the PS1400.

I think, in most situations, two or four of these L8400Ps would be a better choice than one monster subwoofer. When following the procedures in the Harman International white paper on multisubs, a pair of these will fill a good sized room much more evenly and with greater distributed power than a single supersub.

For the money, I am not disappointed in the least, and this will find regular duty around the house, starting first as sub #4 (center rear wall) in the downstairs HT.

Originally Posted by chachanyc

currently i own a pair of jbl northridge tower speakers nd310 was wondering if i placed them on the foor horizontally would it affect sound quality.I,m currently usung them for my front speakers in my home theater setup. i want to increase my projection screen size and the only way these speakers would fit is to lay them down on their side.if anyone can help thanks

Originally Posted by filecat13

Yes, the HLS was a very nice line, that became more popular after it was discontinued. At the time, there was a lot of "Why did JBL stop making these?" questions flying around. Actually, the reason was simple: people weren't buying enough of them.

A similar, better, and more costly line was the JBL SVA Series. These can still be purchased online through harmanaudio.com in the specials section. The prices are ridiculous in a good way. I would think you'd need to pay 1.5x, 2x or 3x the money for a new set of Klipsch that could match them.