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post #13021 of 15016
Last try... Anyone need or want a single S-38II w/o a grill? Its mate was damaged in shipping so this one is sitting sadly in my garage. It works fine but the cabinet is a little beat up, and of course missing the grille. I'd only charge what it would cost me to ship (probably about $50)

I'd be willing to part it out, too, if anyone just wants the drivers/crossovers/whatever.

Or come pick it up for free in the Tampa area. smile.gif
post #13022 of 15016
You have a PM. biggrin.gif
post #13023 of 15016
Well I just pulled the trigger on some L820 speakers at $257 shipped from Amazon, they were sold at this price just because the box was damaged, I don´t care abour the box cool.gif so let´s just hope everything comes in the box because I really need the mounting hardware.

I have a specific question, my room is very small although I have a MFW-15 for the sub, it will be OK if I just use L820 front, rears and a LC2 for center?, is the difference between L820 and L880 i.e just in the low end?.

Ps: I´m friend of WilliamDJ, he is in Bogotá, I´m in Medellin wink.gif
post #13024 of 15016
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Originally Posted by juanchibiris View Post

Well I just pulled the trigger on some L820 speakers at $257 shipped from Amazon, they were sold at this price just because the box was damaged, I don´t care abour the box cool.gif so let´s just hope everything comes in the box because I really need the mounting hardware.
I have a specific question, my room is very small although I have a MFW-15 for the sub, it will be OK if I just use L820 front, rears and a LC2 for center?, is the difference between L820 and L880 i.e just in the low end?.
Ps: I´m friend of WilliamDJ, he is in Bogotá, I´m in Medellin wink.gif
Using the L820s all around will be good.Yes, its only the bass that you get more of using the L880.
post #13025 of 15016
Ok thanks.

Maybe anyone here had the chance ti compare these jbl to av123 speakers? Someone is selling me the x-voce and x-statics how are these compared to the jbl line. The x-voce is huuuuuge

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post #13026 of 15016
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Originally Posted by juanchibiris View Post

Ok thanks.
Maybe anyone here had the chance ti compare these jbl to av123 speakers? Someone is selling me the x-voce and x-statics how are these compared to the jbl line. The x-voce is huuuuuge
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I thought AV123 went out of business. From what I had read in the past, I doubt the AV123 are as good as the JBL Studio L series.
post #13027 of 15016
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Originally Posted by 4DHD View Post

I thought AV123 went out of business. From what I had read in the past, I doubt the AV123 are as good as the JBL Studio L series.

The company did but I think the schematics are still around so some people can build em like the LS6s
post #13028 of 15016
The X series of AV123 were made here in Colombia, also the MFW-15 but the amp, the amp came fron China and then they assemble the whole sub.

So, some friends of mine have this speakers and I want to know how good they are compared to the JBL.

Thanks.


EDIT: My friends are in another city, so the is no way to hear them myself
Edited by juanchibiris - 6/25/12 at 10:45am
post #13029 of 15016
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Originally Posted by ajl1 View Post

the PTs are -6dB at 80Hz vs -3dB at 48Hz so tough to do that comparison.
since I still have L7s adjacent to my PT/PS stack, I had the idea yesterday to set the xover to 180Hz and A/B above that line to take the woofers out of the L7. I won't qualify what I heard but thats one way i suppose

In a manner of speaking (pun, I suppose), yes. Not pure A/B, but subsequent days in the same room, same electronics, same placement. Took a while to dial in the M22s, though, which compounded the short-term sonic memory phenomenon. Smoothness and dynamics now approach that of the PT800/PS1400 tower. Crossover at 100-120 Hz essentially eliminates the low frequency reach distinctions between the M22 and PT800, I presume (and seemingly experience). I have had the M22s for years, and plan never to part with them, though I do not prefer them (or any other speaker) to the PT800. The 5.1 home theater JBL Performance Series array (PT800 @ 4x, PC600 (1) and PS1400 (@2x, stacked with two of the PT800s) is mind boggling. cool.gif
post #13030 of 15016
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Originally Posted by howaboutthat41 View Post

The 5.1 home theater JBL Performance Series array (PT800 @ 4x, PC600 (1) and PS1400 (@2x, stacked with two of the PT800s) is mind boggling. cool.gif

Agreed. smile.gif
post #13031 of 15016
Anyone know which model JBL these are?....

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/ele/3081503618.html
post #13032 of 15016
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Originally Posted by bluestang View Post

Anyone know which model JBL these are?....

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/ele/3081503618.html

Can't say the model number, but they are part of the series that used to sell at Circuit City. Nothing to get excited about.
post #13033 of 15016
Aahh, no gems found then....thanks!
post #13034 of 15016
There are two PS1400's on ebay for a BIN of $349.99. The problem is that the LE14H-3's have been replaced with 2217HPL's. Anybody know anything about them?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/JBL-PS1400-POWERED-SUBWOOFER-400-WATT-AMP-LOADED-W-600-WATT-2217HPL-14-WOOFER-/380450531988?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item58949e6a94
Edited by EZ-Rhino - 6/28/12 at 11:55pm
post #13035 of 15016
post #13036 of 15016
In general, swapping drivers in any speaker is a bad idea, but with subs that is 10x more true. The cabinet is tuned for a specific driver, and it's rare that drivers can be interchanged. There are also considerable electrical difference that will make crossovers do unexpected things. There are a few exceptions, where for example JBL has a pro driver that's the same as a consumer driver or at least similar. The 18" drivers get swapped a lot since there are several that are similar. But even in those cases it does make a difference.

The LE14H-3 is a proven performer with no real equals. Personally I'd avoid a PS1400 that doesn't have an LE14H in it.
post #13037 of 15016
Do these look familiar, right down to the numbers in the model?

http://pdf.outlawaudio.com/outlaw/docs/AAS36AW_OM.pdf
post #13038 of 15016
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Originally Posted by bluestang View Post

Anyone know which model JBL these are?....
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/ele/3081503618.html

They're from the JBL HP Series, with "HP" alluding to high performance. They're cosmetically similar to the 1996 JBL Century Gold 50th Anniversary speaker.

http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/jbl/specs/home-speakers/1996-century-gold.htm

But of course, the HP Series is not cut from the same cloth in terms of cabinet finish and quality of drivers. Still, I think they have a certain curb appeal, and the 027Ti is a pretty good tweeter. The other drivers are capable as well, but the bass extension stops around 40 Hz with the 88F. I'd grab a pair if the price were right.

If I still lived in Cleveland, I'd probably have them right now. tongue.gif

http://www.jbl.com/resources/Brands/jbl/Products/ProductRelatedDocuments/en-US/TechnicalSheet/HP88F%20ts.pdf
post #13039 of 15016
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Originally Posted by 65 Electra Glide View Post

Do these look familiar, right down to the numbers in the model?
http://pdf.outlawaudio.com/outlaw/docs/AAS36AW_OM.pdf

JBL OEMs these for AudioAccess (Owned by ATI at this point, I believe) and for Niles and probably some others. Niles may have moved to a new line, since I've seen some of these cleared out on ebay.
post #13040 of 15016
Have a question for owners of the JBL LC2.

I just bought the JBL LC2 to accompany the JBL L810's I bought about eight months ago. Been running it with the grill off so I can see everything in action. The 4-inch woofer in the center of the speaker never seems to do anything. The 6-inchers pound away and the sounds seem good... but that 4-incher seems dead to me. What's it's purpose?
post #13041 of 15016
You can't see motion in a mid-range driver, but you can feel it and hear it if you stick your ear right up to it.
post #13042 of 15016
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

You can't see motion in a mid-range driver, but you can feel it and hear it if you stick your ear right up to it.

RD's 100% right on this, I found my faith when I just held my hand up visually and audibly concealing the midrange and listened to the change in tone. It's very apparent although the movement of that low excursion diaphragm in a sealed box is nearly invisible.
post #13043 of 15016
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

You can't see motion in a mid-range driver, but you can feel it and hear it if you stick your ear right up to it.

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Originally Posted by nlsteele View Post

RD's 100% right on this, I found my faith when I just held my hand up visually and audibly concealing the midrange and listened to the change in tone. It's very apparent although the movement of that low excursion diaphragm in a sealed box is nearly invisible.

Thanks guys! Will give this a try next time I put it to use...
post #13044 of 15016
Is there maybe someone in the Chicago area who can pick up this for me and ship it to Miami?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JBL-LC2-Studio-L-Series-/150845726074?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item231f1b1d7a#ht_667wt_1185

I hope someone can help me, I saw some did this on another post smile.gif

Thanks.
post #13045 of 15016
I saw this speaker for sale on Craigslist here in Chicago. Was thinking of it for my dad (I have my own LC2 in cherry, but wasn't sure I had the time to get to the Logan square neighborhood this week. My wife would KILL ME if I was using my spare time for that!

Anyone else living within city limits? It's easily an hour drive, one way...

I'm actually a 10 minute walk from where those 31 train cars derailed and killed an unlucky driver underneath the collapsed bridge. Coincidentally, I would need to get to the other side of that collapsed overpass/bridge for my closest UPS customer center. I was just there two weeks ago! Whoever that was, wrong time and wrong place... Yikes!
Edited by PilotAce - 7/5/12 at 8:04pm
post #13046 of 15016
Can someone help this guy?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1418691/jbl-l820s-clipping-help#post_22194779


Sounds like he's using his L820s as mains, and he's experiencing some clipping...

He posted in the general Speakers forum, but I've referred him to here...
post #13047 of 15016
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Originally Posted by PilotAce View Post

I saw this speaker for sale on Craigslist here in Chicago. Was thinking of it for my dad (I have my own LC2 in cherry, but wasn't sure I had the time to get to the Logan square neighborhood this week. My wife would KILL ME if I was using my spare time for that!
Anyone else living within city limits? It's easily an hour drive, one way...
I'm actually a 10 minute walk from where those 31 train cars derailed and killed an unlucky driver underneath the collapsed bridge. Coincidentally, I would need to get to the other side of that collapsed overpass/bridge for my closest UPS customer center. I was just there two weeks ago! Whoever that was, wrong time and wrong place... Yikes!

Well it seems like that guy never answer an email, not from ebay, nor craiglist, so I think I´m not getting that center channel speaker, so now here is the question:

As I´m upgrading from some Polk speakers, I sold all but the center channel, Polk Monitor CS1, I really don´t have a lot of money right now but I expect to buy the LC2 maybe next month, how do you guys think the CS1 blend with the L820 in front?, the rears are Paradigm ADP-390, eek.gif all different brands, xD, I hope the rears doesn´t matter, I have a 5.1 setup, my subwoofer is a MFW-15
post #13048 of 15016
I have been reading about the importance of matching speakers accross the front on this forum for a while now. I'm not sure I agree with the importance given to this concept.

I have jbl l-100's LR and a jbl EC35 center. I guess the tweeters are different and probably not a good match. I find that the content of the center speaker and the LR are so different and so discreet, that I am unaware of any timbre missmatch. Maybe I could tell the difference if I had matched speakers and I could A/B against my set-up. I just don't think a timbre missmatch is as important as many make it seem.

I would try your combination and if you are happy with it, go for it. I only use my LR, center and rears for movies and listen to music in stereo only, so maybe that is why I am happy with my 5.1 set up. Lastly, I recently upgraded my cheapy Cambridge side speakers for JBL l-820's and I am extremely happy with the results. I also use a Polk PSW 505 (550?-12" sub with 300+ watts rms) sub and I am also extremely happy with it for movies. Don't feel I need any more bass except to impress my friends.
post #13049 of 15016
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Originally Posted by mirkolop View Post

Maybe I could tell the difference if I had matched speakers and I could A/B against my set-up. I just don't think a timbre missmatch is as important as many make it seem..

It's very important for the entire setup to be voice matched. AVR EQ systems are good but they can't change the true voice of a speaker. Mainly AVR EQ is meant to compensate for room effects, not voice match.
FWIW, although the L100 and EC35 are not a perfect match they are closer than most.

Bottom line, once you have had a perfectly matched speaker system with proper setup and EQ, you will never go back. Personally I feel that any center or surround needs to have woofers no smaller than 6", 3-ways are preferable. For movies it's much less of a big deal, for multi-channel music it's a pretty big deal to have voice matching.
post #13050 of 15016
What do you mean by "multi channel music"? Is that playing discreet multi channel music DVD's or using a program on your DVR when playing stereo CD's? I'm real green when it comes to this. I'm old, so to me music means stereo...period. I would like to get with the program. I have a newer Yamaha DVR with multiple HDMI input/output. I only play "straight" when watching blue rays and stereo when listening to music. Any suggestions as to what else I should try. I don't really understand what all the programs mean (sts etc.). I play my CD's through an old Sony jukebox type of player, which makes it real convenient. I wish I still listened to vinyl. Supertramp through a quality Dual turntable and a Shure V=15 type 3 cartridge. Ah, those were the days. I do velieve all CD players sound pretty much the same, so let's not go there.
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