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post #13501 of 14063
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Originally Posted by filecat13 View Post

Of course, the answer is "It depends." smile.gif

First let's compare the L890 and the E100. The L890 is definitely a better speaker in the HF output, with a real 1" Ti HF driver and the added Mylar® UHF ribbon, both in guides. At the midrange, it's a wash, since the speakers are essentially the same. As for LF output, while both use dual PolyPlas® drivers, the E100 has two 10" woofers compared to the L890's two 8" woofers. While the frequency response would appear to be very close with the E100 and L890, the L890 is going to sound better at the upper end, and the E100 will be more authoritative at the bottom.

As for price, the current typical price for a pair of L890s is $800–$1000. So is the L890 three to four times better than the E100? No, of course not. But it is better in the HF, and it will be a better match with your S Series gear which also have a 1" pure Ti dome tweeter in a waveguide, especially after you retire the E20s. The E100s will be a better match for your EC35 and E90s.

If you had a stronger sub (or a pair of subs), then the dual 10s in the E100s wouldn't be as important, but they'll likely help fill in the bottom quite a bit.

A bargain is only a bargain if you use it, so if you end up still longing for L890s, then you've wasted $250 on the E100s. OTOH, there's the opportunity cost of not getting the E100s while you wait for the L890s, and if something happens so you can't get the L890s, the E100s will be long gone and you could have enjoyed the E100s the whole time.

Decisions, decisions... Someone else might want to tell you explicitly what to do, but you have to live with the choice and not the guy giving you the recommendation. IMO, either route (E100 or L890) will be an improvement.

Thank you Filecat13 for your input. It would be wise for me to scoop up the E100's and see how well they work out before laying out $800+ bucks. In your experience would it be possible to fit the E100's with the same/similar tweeter the L890 has should I feel the need for better HF from it?
post #13502 of 14063
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Originally Posted by InfernoST View Post

Thank you Filecat13 for your input. It would be wise for me to scoop up the E100's and see how well they work out before laying out $800+ bucks. In your experience would it be possible to fit the E100's with the same/similar tweeter the L890 has should I feel the need for better HF from it?

Swapping drivers is a no-no unless you custom modify the crossover. Different drivers have different acoustic and electrical specs which require different crossover designs.
post #13503 of 14063
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Originally Posted by filecat13 View Post

Why don't you already have it? Buy it!

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Originally Posted by gferrell View Post

+1

Thank you so much guys! I lucked out and finally got my hands on the EC35. I brought an old bookshelf system that I plugged into the back of my mini-van, so I was able to listen to the speaker. I was very impressed and very happy with my purchase!
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post


There' s a EC35 here on craigslist. Maybe the guy will ship it to you, give him a call.
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/ele/3560428416.html

afrogt: Thanks for the heads up! Greatly appreciated.

Now I need to configure my system, so the sound is "even". We watched Dark Knight Rises and I found myself having to adjust the volume too much. The dialogue was awesome from the center, but the action sequences were way too loud for the wife (probably the neighbors too). The HK has a "night mode" that I'll test next time.
Edited by garrickb - 1/28/13 at 1:16am
post #13504 of 14063
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Originally Posted by Avliner View Post

Hey Guys,

out of curiosity, does any of you have heard the new Studio 530 range? Seems to have a stellar performance, although not much of sex appeal though wink.gif

http://www.jbl.com/estore/jbl/us/products/Studio-530/STUDIO%20530_JBL_US?searchMode=regularProductOnly

Anybody??
post #13505 of 14063
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Originally Posted by Avliner View Post

Anybody??
Very hard to do an audition when JBL's B&M stores have shrunk to near zero.
post #13506 of 14063
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Originally Posted by Avliner View Post

Anybody??

I have placed a few pair of the 530s and they are great.

As well the "DO" look a lot sexier in person, than on the websites.
post #13507 of 14063
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Originally Posted by 4DHD View Post

Very hard to do an audition when JBL's B&M stores have shrunk to near zero.

+1.

I tried yesterday to audition a set of L890's at a one of the very few B&M's in my area only to find someone had put holes in the speakers, when I saw this I just turned around and left the store.
post #13508 of 14063
Thanks a bunch guys!
post #13509 of 14063
BB only ever sold the Studio L series online. I auditioned the L890, L820, LC2 at Frys. Then after the ES series came out, Frys dropped the Studio L in favor of the cheaper ES. By then Tweeters had closed, which had sold the PS, from what I saw online.
post #13510 of 14063
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Originally Posted by 4DHD View Post

BB only ever sold the Studio L series online. I auditioned the L890, L820, LC2 at Frys. Then after the ES series came out, Frys dropped the Studio L in favor of the cheaper ES. By then Tweeters had closed, which had sold the PS, from what I saw online.


Tweeter used to have the Performance Series as the featured setup in its highest-end showroom (the whole system, and pretty well configured). That is where I caught the bug many years ago. They never seemed to put much energy into trying to sell the line, however. I would wander in, listen for a while, and basically be ignored. That recipe might work for a bad marriage, but not for selling high-line speakers and components. eek.gif
post #13511 of 14063
Ebay tempted me several years ago with the L890s and after I listened to them I bought all the rest of the L series too. Never regretted it.
post #13512 of 14063
Dang wish I could find E100s or E90s in my area. Have been watching Craigslist for months to no avail.

My setup is about 10 years old and is the EC35 and two E50s on the front, with E10s for surrounds, driven by an HK ARV435. Still pretty satisfied with all of it but one of the E50 speakers has no bass (and maybe no midrange) and I can't seem to fix it with wiring experiments. It's definitely the speaker and not the receiver because I moved it to other outputs and the issue is the same.

I bought those when I had a fairly small theater area that was also our living room, and now I have a much bigger setup that is basically dedicated home theater. So if I have a speaker to fix or replace anyway, I'd like to go ahead and upgrade the fronts to towers from the Northridge series!

Will have to keep watching I guess. I've also seen some pop up on eBay with reasonable shipping costs but I'd rather do the deal locally and in person.

All that to say, damn you for taunting me with your $250 E100 deal! smile.gif
post #13513 of 14063
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Originally Posted by RedLefty View Post

Dang wish I could find E100s or E90s in my area. All that to say, damn you for taunting me with your $250 E100 deal! smile.gif

Sorry bout that RedLefty.eek.gif

Hopefully I'll be picking up 2 of them this Saturday, for some reason he has 3, I'm wondering what the 3rd one is for.
post #13514 of 14063
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Originally Posted by InfernoST View Post

Sorry bout that RedLefty.eek.gif

Hopefully I'll be picking up 2 of them this Saturday, for some reason he has 3, I'm wondering what the 3rd one is for.

The ideal front stage is three identical speakers.
post #13515 of 14063
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Originally Posted by EZ-Rhino View Post

The ideal front stage is three identical speakers.

So you're saying he is using the 3rd one as a center channel?
post #13516 of 14063
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Originally Posted by 4DHD View Post

BB only ever sold the Studio L series online. I auditioned the L890, L820, LC2 at Frys. Then after the ES series came out, Frys dropped the Studio L in favor of the cheaper ES. By then Tweeters had closed, which had sold the PS, from what I saw online.

I currently own a pair of Cherry 890s and a Cherry LC2 Center Chanel. They sound Amazing.
I also have a pair of Cherry 810s coming that are on backorder at B&H.
They should be here by March 20th to round out my JBL speaker set.
For my sub Im running a Cherry JBL ES-250PW.
You really cant go wrong with the Studio L series.
post #13517 of 14063
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Originally Posted by InfernoST View Post

So you're saying he is using the 3rd one as a center channel?

Just a guess.biggrin.gif
post #13518 of 14063
I currently have S312s, S center, and S 26s for a 5.1 system with an SVS PB12 plus.

Pioneer VSX-1019 receiver.

I am moving and want to upgrade to 7.1 in a larger room, about 21'x16'.

Any thoughts on pairing in-wall rear surround speakers with this setup?
post #13519 of 14063
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Originally Posted by ChrisMatson View Post

I currently have S312s, S center, and S 26s for a 5.1 system with an SVS PB12 plus.

Pioneer VSX-1019 receiver.

I am moving and want to upgrade to 7.1 in a larger room, about 21'x16'.

Any thoughts on pairing in-wall rear surround speakers with this setup?

the best option would be 2 more S26, or any of the 6.5" 2-way models. The 6.5" 2-way in-wall model would work too. THIS is a pretty good value.
post #13520 of 14063
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

the best option would be 2 more S26, or any of the 6.5" 2-way models. The 6.5" 2-way in-wall model would work too. THIS is a pretty good value.

Thanks for the info.
Ordered 2.
Love this forum.


Also added some Pinpoint AM40 mounts for the S26s that are going to be wall mounted.
Edited by ChrisMatson - 1/30/13 at 9:18pm
post #13521 of 14063
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Originally Posted by EZ-Rhino View Post

Just a guess.biggrin.gif

That's one big center.
post #13522 of 14063
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Originally Posted by InfernoST View Post

That's one big center.

That's what AT screens are for.
post #13523 of 14063
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Originally Posted by InfernoST View Post

So you're saying he is using the 3rd one as a center channel?

That is always best, although not always possible. 14 years ago I picked up a 3rd L55 for a center, but instead of the LE14A it had the LE14C. made a great center, being the 14" cone acted as a WG for the tweeter.
Three 14"ers across the front made for a very good soundstage.
I sold those L55s to a guy I knew along with a sub, Marantz AVR, DVD player. He told me later the best system he had ever heard (he never heard my 7ch L212 or the PT800s). But he was completely happy with what he had.
post #13524 of 14063
Does anyone here own the JBL Sub150P? Thoughts?

Trying to pull the trigger on a subwoofer. Either this one or the BIC F12.
post #13525 of 14063
A pair of JBL Ti6k's and a JBL Ti1k

Long Story Short, I think I got pretty lucky. While living in Los Angeles as an actor, I had a day job moving furniture when things got slow and I didn't book anything for a while. I was moving this guy out of a very nice penthouse in Santa Monica, his assistant was handling the entire move, and we knew there would be a considerable amount of things going to charity. As soon as I saw the speakers, I called dibs to everyone on the crew if they were given away. They were fine with it, but I thought these speakers were special, and was adamant about my first in line position for them. I went unchallenged. The last part of the move we went to drop the donations of at the charity shop. As I reluctantly handed the speakers off the truck, of which I had padded and protected like they were already mine for the ride, I mentioned to the assistant I would love to have them. She gave them to me on the spot. And know they have made it with me back to Chicago. While they were stored in my house in LA, my toddler son dented the dome on the tweeters, on all three units. I can't blame him, I wanted to touch them, too. Also, part of the bottom base got broken off, along with the spike(picture). So, I looked in to repairing the tweeters when I have some money, and the total cost would be $267.51 plus shipping and handling. I am missing one spike, and they don't have them any more. Money is a little tight right now, if they could fetch a decent price, it would be very helpful. But, I don't think I could replace them any time soon, and if they are great speakers, not even in the near future depending on their worth. I have never hooked up them up,and I can't wait. I just have a couple questions for you JBL'ers out there.

1. What do you think of them?

2. Would you repair them? Are they worth it?

3. Would you keep them, or, try to sell them? Is it something I would kick myself over about later in life?

Any and all feedback would be appreciated, thanks for your time, as well as any and all advice. Thanks again.





Edited by bigglesworth - 1/31/13 at 2:12pm
post #13526 of 14063
Hi: I'm considering purchasing new HT speakers, to be used equally for music and movies.

I've zeroed in on two JBL lines: the Studio 1 and the ES series, both of which are drastically reduced in price right now.

I'd be looking at either:

Studio 180 floor standing (fronts)
Studio 120c center
Studio SUB150P sub
Studio 130 bookshelf (surrounds)

or

ES20 bookshelf (fronts and surrounds)
ES25C center
ES250P sub
(With the ES line, I would possibly upgrade to the ES30 or ES80 for the fronts; the ES30 is hard to find right now, but I'd love to get some opinions on the difference between the 20 and 30.)

There's no place nearby to demo these--any advice would be very helpful.

Is the ES line generally considered to be better than the Studio 1 line? The aesthetics of both lines are ok with me--I like that neither uses the traditional plain rectangle. I'd probably prefer a bookshelf/sub set up, though I'm open to towers.

An Onkyo TX-NR708 will be driving most of the channels; I currently have my front L & R channels running off of an old B&K amp hooked up to the pre-outs on the 708.

(My current speaker system is built from the short-lived by well-respected Sony SS-K line. My sub just died, so I'm considering a complete change.)

Thanks for your help!
post #13527 of 14063
I am blown away by the sound of my L890s as LCR behind a Seymour Centerstage XD screen in my theater. The addition of the L890 as the center channel has added way more than I could have hoped. I will never go back to a non AT screen or an unmatched trio of speakers for LCR.

Willie
post #13528 of 14063
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Originally Posted by bigglesworth View Post

A pair of JBL Ti6k's and a JBL Ti1k

Long Story Short, I think I got pretty lucky. While living in Los Angeles as an actor, I had a day job moving furniture when things got slow and I didn't book anything for a while. I was moving this guy out of a very nice penthouse in Santa Monica, his assistant was handling the entire move, and we knew there would be a considerable amount of things going to charity. As soon as I saw the speakers, I called dibs to everyone on the crew if they were given away. They were fine with it, but I thought these speakers were special, and was adamant about my first in line position for them. I went unchallenged. The last part of the move we went to drop the donations of at the charity shop. As I reluctantly handed the speakers off the truck, of which I had padded and protected like they were already mine for the ride, I mentioned to the assistant I would love to have them. She gave them to me on the spot. And know they have made it with me back to Chicago. While they were stored in my house in LA, my toddler son dented the dome on the tweeters, on all three units. I can't blame him, I wanted to touch them, too. Also, part of the bottom base got broken off, along with the spike(picture). So, I looked in to repairing the tweeters when I have some money, and the total cost would be $267.51 plus shipping and handling. I am missing one spike, and they don't have them any more. Money is a little tight right now, if they could fetch a decent price, it would be very helpful. But, I don't think I could replace them any time soon, and if they are great speakers, not even in the near future depending on their worth. I have never hooked up them up,and I can't wait. I just have a couple questions for you JBL'ers out there.

1. What do you think of them?

2. Would you repair them? Are they worth it?

3. Would you keep them, or, try to sell them? Is it something I would kick myself over about later in life?

Any and all feedback would be appreciated, thanks for your time, as well as any and all advice. Thanks again.






You got pretty lucky, indeed. Those are keepers, for certain. If the domes are not cracked, just play them and enjoy them. Prop up the damaged tower with something that balances the height of the two spikes. These are terrific speakers and will sound far, far better than any price you would fetch for them, and you may well not need to spend any real money on repairs if those domes are just pressed in or dented (that does not affect sound very much) and nothing else is busted up inside.
post #13529 of 14063
Ti6K and Ti1K

That's a lucky grab. smile.gif Not necessarily everyone's cup of tea, but a delicious cup if you like it.

If you were still in LA I'd offer you $1800 cash on the spot, considering the damage and cost of making them right. But as stated above, they'll probably sound pretty good even without the damaged tweeters being fixed. If you do intend to fix them, it's better sooner than later, since parts are likely in short supply already and may be really hard to find in the future. You can't just stick any tweeter in there, since the crossovers were built with those specific tweets response characteristics in mind.

They were built by JBL in Denmark and have that nice Scandanavian furniture quality to them, and the drivers are very good.

It looks like the gold straps are missing on the bottom. These would normally connect the treble, midrange, and bass inputs in parallel. In their absence, you'll either need to connect them using speaker wire--no big deal-- or tri-amp them using three stereo amplifiers and an external crossover--big deal. I'm guessing that since they're gone, the original owner must have had them tri-amped.
Edited by filecat13 - 2/1/13 at 10:45am
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This is what I mean in case it's confusing.
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