Originally Posted by filecat13
In another thread, 807recordings (Shamus) asked:
The SVA Center should be selected as "small" and crossed over to a sub somewhere between 80 and 100 Hz, while the SVA2100s would be selected as "large" or full range and if crossed over to a sub at all would be at 40 or 60 Hz.
You're right that the center cannot keep up with the 2100s, at least in the realm of the bass drivers. It's no contest. For a few years I had an SVA21000/SVA Center/SVA1800 surround set up. It was dynamic, clean, and powerful. As long as I crossed the center over to a sub at 100Hz, it was fine playing with the big boys. The soft dome in the Center is 1" while the 2100 has a 1.5" dome, so I swapped in an 1800 for the center, but it also has the smaller 1" dome, so there was no appreciable gain there except in the LF. The remnants of the SVA Series that can still be purchased in left over Synthesis HT1 systems all have Ti tweeters in them, and they're a poor match as a result.
If I were doing an audio-only SVA system, I'd opt for three SVA2100s across the front and keep the fourth as a parts mule to keep the other three running. I agree that the SVA Series is much under appreciated, and I made sure mine went to a good home when they left. Their owner loves them to this day.
I did have these set to small of course, but still it was just a sort of disconnect. At the time I had this speaker I had classe 2100 amps running all. No issues on power.
The HT series I did here in Toronto at Best Buy but at the time I felt they didn't sound correct. Of course it was absolutely different qualities of gear I was comparing with, and at the time I was using my B&W 800 Nautilus for the mains.
Originally Posted by rdgrimes
Re: center ch for SVA 2100:
Just wanted to state that often the idea of no center (phantom center mode on most processors) is a perfectly legitimate approach for main speakers that have no peer as center. If the majority of listening is done more or less in the center of the sound stage, no center may actually be a better approach. Point being that one shouldn't rule that out as an option. As to surrounds, I'd push for more SVA 2100 in those positions as well.
If you held a gun to my head and forced me to choose a center for the SVA 2100, I'd probably be thinking about either a PC600 or 880 Array center channel speaker. Either of those has the cahones to serve one well.
Normally I am really OK with running no centre channel, but I do need to do tests and raw mixes in surround so the centre is a must. It is almost impossible to find SVA speakers here in Germany/Europe. Sad also because there is some good deals in North America.
Originally Posted by filecat13
Luckily for you, I don't have a gun.
The PC600 has quite a different sound with its beautiful Ti drivers, compared to the soft dome tweeter and paper woofers of the SVA Series.
The 880 Array would at least have similarly-constructed woofers and a horn, though still no soft dome in the horn.
I like you first suggestion better: phantom center.
The new series I see is on sale here in a local shop and I might try them out just to see. Even if I wanted I can't afford the space for 5 SVA 2100s, but I sure wish I could.
As posted in another thread Klipsch was also an option, but again no real way to test.
Thanks guys for the thoughts, and excuse the delay as I some how missed these posts.