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post #14491 of 15016
The bolt holes on the speakers are 3 3/4" on center. I'm not sure if that works out for the vesa pattern?
post #14492 of 15016
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Originally Posted by gec5741 View Post

The bolt holes on the speakers are 3 3/4" on center. I'm not sure if that works out for the vesa pattern?

You need mm for VESA, but that works out close to 95mm. A mount that uses slots instead of just holes will be fine.
post #14493 of 15016
yup the slots version mount would work. i used to have these jbl speakers.. you have to look for the right mount though as some versions mount have to little slots for it to fit. you need the ones with 2cm slots or universal mount it was called if i remember correctly.
Edited by DaJoJo - 11/18/13 at 5:51pm
post #14494 of 15016
Thanks. I"ll keep looking for one. I just hate to take a shot on ordering one and have it not work then have to send it back. I wish there was a store I could go that may have something.
post #14495 of 15016
I set up a "new" Array 1500 today. These things come up for sale so rarely that I couldn't resist. Its the most I've ever spent on a single piece of gear, but what the hell. Anyhow I just had a pipe organ orgy

what pipe organ artists are your reference tongue.gif for those of us who'd like to test our subs ?
post #14496 of 15016
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Originally Posted by ajl1 View Post


what pipe organ artists are your reference tongue.gif for those of us who'd like to test our subs ?

The sub forum is full of suggestions, but here's a thread devoted to this topic:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1115313/what-organ-music-are-you-using-to-show-off

I use the 5.1 SACD of "Bach- The Four Great Toccatas and Fugues" by E Power Biggs, but its impossible to find so its not a good recommendation. Track 2, T & F in F Major has sustained VLF notes.

There are a few organs in existence with 64 foot pipes at 16Hz, and many more around with 32 foot pipes. There are good suggestions in that thread.
What I listen for is actual notes, not just rumble. I want to distinguish each note. You'd be surprised how few subs can accomplish that. Of course, below 30Hz its not so much about hearing as it is about feeling. But still I want it to sound like music, not just rumbles. With the stereo recordings I like to put my PS stacks on a 40Hz crossover to the subs, otherwise I run them full range for 5.1 recordings.
post #14497 of 15016
If anyone sees some HTPS400's for sale please email me if you can. I'm feeling a need to upgrade my LFE and these are what I've been looking for with no luck.

Thanks
Mark
m.james@underexposed.us
post #14498 of 15016
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Originally Posted by mikeronesia View Post

If anyone sees some HTPS400's for sale please email me if you can. I'm feeling a need to upgrade my LFE and these are what I've been looking for with no luck.

Thanks
Mark
m.james@underexposed.us

They come up from time to time but it's been a long time since one's come up for less than $700.00. It also depends on your perspective. The MSRP was $2000.00 and a replacement driver from JBL was over $700.00.
Edited by EZ-Rhino - 12/3/13 at 1:36am
post #14499 of 15016
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Originally Posted by mikeronesia View Post

If anyone sees some HTPS400's for sale please email me if you can. I'm feeling a need to upgrade my LFE and these are what I've been looking for with no luck.

Thanks
Mark
m.james@underexposed.us

Sorry, Mark. I just sold five of them to a friend in Colorado. He drove down to SoCal to pick them up.

He may be interested in flipping a pair. PM me if you want contact info.
post #14500 of 15016
Hi everyone, I've been searching the form this morning for answers to my question but have run into some stumbling blocks.

I'm setting up my mother's with a new TV and sound package for Christmas. I've decided on a Panasonic ST60 for the TV and came across a sale on JBL ES25C center channel speakers for about $80 each. My understanding is that there are considerable benefits to using 3 of these for the LR and center and some threads suggest using 5 identical centre channel speakers for a 5.1 setup is a good way to go but there isn't a consensus and I am not confident with what to do.


My options are

A. Keep the 3 center channels I've ordered and add 2 more for a 5.0 setup
B. Keep the 3 centre and add two ES20 bookshelf speakers ( they are on sale for about $140)
C. cancel 2 centre channels add the bookshelf speakers and some rear channels speakers.

I have not as yet determined which receiver to use so I am flexible in that regard. The room will accommodate placement of these but my mother won't allow tower speakers.

Cheers!
post #14501 of 15016
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Originally Posted by irridion View Post

Hi everyone, I've been searching the form this morning for answers to my question but have run into some stumbling blocks.

I'm setting up my mother's with a new TV and sound package for Christmas. I've decided on a Panasonic ST60 for the TV and came across a sale on JBL ES25C center channel speakers for about $80 each. My understanding is that there are considerable benefits to using 3 of these for the LR and center and some threads suggest using 5 identical centre channel speakers for a 5.1 setup is a good way to go but there isn't a consensus and I am not confident with what to do.


My options are

A. Keep the 3 center channels I've ordered and add 2 more for a 5.0 setup
B. Keep the 3 centre and add two ES20 bookshelf speakers ( they are on sale for about $140)
C. cancel 2 centre channels add the bookshelf speakers and some rear channels speakers.

I have not as yet determined which receiver to use so I am flexible in that regard. The room will accommodate placement of these but my mother won't allow tower speakers.

Cheers!
I'd vote for three ES25Cs across the front, and a pair of ES20s for the two surrounds.
(Maybe just five ES20s, or use six in a 6.0 set up).
post #14502 of 15016
Thanks for responding Mad Norseman.

So if I understand correctly using the ES20 bookshelf speakers as side channel speakers is preferable to using all ES25C centre channel speakers and there really isn't a huge benefit to using them as Left and Right Channel as intended?
post #14503 of 15016
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Originally Posted by EZ-Rhino View Post

They come up from time to time but it's been a long time since one's come up for less than $700.00. It also depends on your perspective. The MSRP was $2000.00 and a replacement driver from JBL was over $700.00.

Thanks, I don't look as often as I should. Seems I'm always busy now days.
post #14504 of 15016
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Originally Posted by filecat13 View Post

Sorry, Mark. I just sold five of them to a friend in Colorado. He drove down to SoCal to pick them up.

He may be interested in flipping a pair. PM me if you want contact info.

With what did you replace them?
post #14505 of 15016
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Originally Posted by irridion View Post

Thanks for responding Mad Norseman.

So if I understand correctly using the ES20 bookshelf speakers as side channel speakers is preferable to using all ES25C centre channel speakers and there really isn't a huge benefit to using them as Left and Right Channel as intended?
Rule of thumb preference is always - first for all speakers to be the same (including the center speaker), especially across the front soundstage (ES20s or ES25Cs).
Also to keep all of the speaker's tweeter heights at near to the same level +/- 12" or so if possible.
Second preference (in your case) might be all ES25Cs in the 3 front positions, and a pair of ES20s for the surrounds.
Third choice is possibly ES20s for everything except the center speaker which would then be an ES25C.
That's the order of preference I'd go with if the 'WAF' and space limitations are not factors.
post #14506 of 15016
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Originally Posted by EZ-Rhino View Post

With what did you replace them?

Short answer: space!

Okay, we're putting our house on the market and I sold the entire Performance Series system, albeit not all to one person. I still have four PT800s and one PC600 that I have saved for a project incorporating the PT250 experiment. I also cleared out pairs of L250s, XPL160s, S/2600s, L7s, L5s, 4430s, one B380, two S2S subs, and four Synthesis® amps.
post #14507 of 15016
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Originally Posted by filecat13 View Post

Short answer: space!

Okay, we're putting our house on the market and I sold the entire Performance Series system, albeit not all to one person. I still have four PT800s and one PC600 that I have saved for a project incorporating the PT250 experiment. I also cleared out pairs of L250s, XPL160s, S/2600s, L7s, L5s, 4430s, one B380, two S2S subs, and four Synthesis® amps.

I understand. I'm planning on clearing some items myself.
post #14508 of 15016
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Originally Posted by EZ-Rhino View Post

I understand. I'm planning on clearing some items myself.

Henry David Thoreau: "Simplify! Simplify!"

filecat13: "Okay, but I still need some JBLs." wink.gif
post #14509 of 15016
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Originally Posted by filecat13 View Post

Short answer: space!

Okay, we're putting our house on the market and I sold the entire Performance Series system, albeit not all to one person. I still have four PT800s and one PC600 that I have saved for a project incorporating the PT250 experiment. I also cleared out pairs of L250s, XPL160s, S/2600s, L7s, L5s, 4430s, one B380, two S2S subs, and four Synthesis® amps.

wow! I know many of the systems were occupying space, but why did the PS system go?
post #14510 of 15016
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Originally Posted by ajl1 View Post

wow! I know many of the systems were occupying space, but why did the PS system go?

It occupied the most space: four PT800/PS1400 stacks, four HTPS400s, a PC600, plus the AV-2 and AVA7. In addition, I used it less and less as the PT250 project improved, and Performance Series gear is more and more in demand by folks who want to complete their systems before the components are hard to find. At least seven people have Performance Series gear from me, and I've still got enough left over to make a 7.1 system using the PT250s as mains!

So now I have to make do with the remaining Performance Series gear, quad-amped PT250s, bi-amped XPL200As, K2 S9900s, bi-amped Timbers Arrays, Synthesis® One Array system, and two pairs of in-line L100s. Woe is me! tongue.gif
post #14511 of 15016
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Originally Posted by filecat13 View Post

It occupied the most space: four PT800/PS1400 stacks, four HTPS400s, a PC600, plus the AV-2 and AVA7. In addition, I used it less and less as the PT250 project improved, and Performance Series gear is more and more in demand by folks who want to complete their systems before the components are hard to find. At least seven people have Performance Series gear from me, and I've still got enough left over to make a 7.1 system using the PT250s as mains!

So now I have to make do with the remaining Performance Series gear, quad-amped PT250s, bi-amped XPL200As, K2 S9900s, bi-amped Timbers Arrays, Synthesis® One Array system, and two pairs of in-line L100s. Woe is me! tongue.gif

yes, woe is you biggrin.gif

your comments on PS demand make me glad I secured the at 4xPT800, 1xPC600, 1xHTPS400, and 1xAVA7 at good prices before things got too crazy.......even the Weather Channel is fun to watch with the abundance of LFE they've loaded into their programming (check it out if you haven't, may be the bass reference out of all 1999 channels on my cable TV)
post #14512 of 15016
Ok JBL guys, I love my Jbl gear I have an ES150p and some JBL surrounds and I need a new center channel for my movies. I have really old Pioneer mains and am going to replace the tweeters with 1" silk domes. Now my question is I want to get a new center channel and since the pioneers are from the 70's there is no matching center so I want to get a Jbl center if I can. I want to stay at $100 or under so should I go with a used Jbl center on ebay or something else?
post #14513 of 15016

I have an 8 year old JBL S120P subwoofer that has been repaired a couple of times.  It has stopped working again, and I decided to replace the plate amp.  I picked up a Creative Sound Solutions PA500 amp on a black friday sale.  However, it doesn't match the old opening at all, and it would take major surgery to fit it properly.  I've checked the driver with a D cell battery, and it still operates fine.

 

So I've decided to build a separate enclosure for the new amp, cover the old opening in the subwoofer, and use the plate amp as a separate component, external to the subwoofer.  The enclosure will be an easy build and I'm not concerned about that.  But the details of hooking things up escape me.  I'm far from an electrical/subwoofer genius, so any pointers you guys can give me would be appreciated. 

 

What kind of connectors should I use?

What gauge wire? 

Do I need to keep the wire under a certain length?

Would 1/4" baltic birch plywood be ok for covering the old plate amp opening in the subwoofer, or do I need something heavier?

 

I know this is probably a really simple job, but I haven't done it before and want to do it right the first time.  Thanks for your help.

post #14514 of 15016
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Originally Posted by BadToTheTone View Post

What kind of connectors should I use?
Any speaker connector will suffice, you can simply mount a cup-style connector in the plate you are making.
http://www.parts-express.com/cat/terminal-plates-cups/321
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What gauge wire? 
Do I need to keep the wire under a certain length?
16ga up to 12 ft, 14ga over 12 ft.
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Would 1/4" baltic birch plywood be ok for covering the old plate amp opening in the subwoofer
Yes.
post #14515 of 15016
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post


Any speaker connector will suffice, you can simply mount a cup-style connector in the plate you are making.
http://www.parts-express.com/cat/terminal-plates-cups/321
16ga up to 12 ft, 14ga over 12 ft.
Yes.


Thanks!

post #14516 of 15016
I'm not sure if any of you are JBL fans on FB, but they have posted 2 pics of my system in the last couple of weeks and the Performance series has been getting a lot of well deserved love.

I just copied the URL, not sure why I see two pics. confused.gif

post #14517 of 15016
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Originally Posted by mikeronesia View Post

I'm not sure if any of you are JBL fans on FB, but they have posted 2 pics of my system in the last couple of weeks

But no mention of the audiophile lizard? wink.gif
post #14518 of 15016
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

But no mention of the audiophile lizard? wink.gif

I KNOW! eek.gif
post #14519 of 15016
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Originally Posted by mikeronesia View Post

I'm not sure if any of you are JBL fans on FB, but they have posted 2 pics of my system in the last couple of weeks and the Performance series has been getting a lot of well deserved love.

I just copied the URL, not sure why I see two pics. confused.gif


Your system looks great Mark. I like the floating PC600.
post #14520 of 15016
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Originally Posted by EZ-Rhino View Post

Your system looks great Mark. I like the floating PC600.

Thanks, it's my Richter scale. The more it shakes, the bigger the quake! biggrin.gif
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