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post #1741 of 14058
Wow Bill, go figure...
Hope it works out well this time.
post #1742 of 14058
hey all just after some experienced opinions please.

thinking of updating the E80s and EC35, for a pair of L880 or L890s

locally in Australia new I can get the 880 for $1500 and the 890 for $1800, retail on the 890s is $2499!! have to love it here....

anyways is it worth spending the extra $300 on the bigger speakers, i already have an LC2 and L820s

and will a NAD 955 have enough grunt for them, it works fine on the E80s ,but hey are atad smaller..

thanks
post #1743 of 14058
Trofius,
The Ls will sound better, but is it worth all that extra expense?... that is your personal choice. Your 955 should drive 890s just fine, but high powered amps will make tham sound better... again, an upgrade that may be expensive and your personal choice to decide if you're willing to invest so much.
IN MY OPINION, I wouldn't be willing to spend so much to go from the E80s to L890s.
Do you have a nice subwoofer(s)? Where the E80s lack the most is their lower end. They have base for sure, but for home theater applications, they need to be carried by a great sub. You may want to look into upgrading that speaker instead. Again IMO, it's the second most important speaker next to the center channel.
Now you do already have the 820s and LC2, so it seems that you may have already been planning on getting the L-towers at some point. It just seems like an awefully expensive upgrade.
Good luck.
post #1744 of 14058
I'm considering an Onkyo 605 and JBL Venue Series speakers. Priced out on Amazon, all can be had for $1200. Anyone have any input for this?

Typical use will be watching movies, and xbox 360. 50 inch plasma.
post #1745 of 14058
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Originally Posted by PicHold View Post

I'm considering an Onkyo 605 and JBL Venue Series speakers. Priced out on Amazon, all can be had for $1200. Anyone have any input for this?

Typical use will be watching movies, and xbox 360. 50 inch plasma.

Shop the HK refurbs on ebay, save some big $$. Go to www.shoponkyo.com and save some $$ on the 605 there.
post #1746 of 14058
Thanks smarty pants, Bass is not a problem.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=908571

Yep JBL seem to be pretty pricey here, probably due to the cost of shipping them to Australia, even refurbished units on the Australian Ebay for L890 are in the leauge of $1600
The purchase was to be dependant on the sale of my E80s and EC35, asking $900 for all 3 which is less than half retail for them here.

I realise the only difference between the 880 and 890 is the bigger bass drivers, hust wondering if the difference was that different. It would be nice to find a distributer in teh USA that would ship to Australia, given very close exchange rates and shipping it would still be cheaper...just a warranty issue maybe.
post #1747 of 14058
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Originally Posted by eugovector View Post

Shop the HK refurbs on ebay, save some big $$. Go to shoponkyo.com and save some $$ on the 605 there.

I think I may actually go with a Denon now..
post #1748 of 14058
It looks like I'm going to do some thorough Spring cleaning and will have some mint (like new!) JBLs up for sale (as soon as I figure out how to do that here on AVS). At this time, I'm not exactly sure how many I'll be passing along, but PM me if you have any interest.

Some of the speakers likely will be JBL Studio S312's, S38's, EC35, and J350s. I might even throw in a vintage and mint set of Advent Ones (large) and/or Infinity References. But I won't know exactly what goes until next week.

So those of you who are looking for a piece(s) to match or finish your setups, or even get a good deal on a full set, give me a shout.
post #1749 of 14058
post #1750 of 14058
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Originally Posted by eugovector View Post

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Nice speakers for a nice price... good find.
post #1751 of 14058
Hi everyone! I am a BIG JBL supporter. I bought my Dad's E series 7.2 HT as follows
Front JBL E100
Surrounds x2 JBL E50
Center JBL EC35
Subs AV123 Xsub and Klipsch S12
Receiver Yamaha 771

System can put out a lout of sound and more importantly great sound! His primary use is music DVDs. Great sounding system and no chance no matter what could I have gotten a better deal or better speakers for the price I paid ($650 for the full 7 speakers, all brand new except for floor model E100s..frys close out ;-P )

Now onto my system that I will be building and need some help...Frys had them dirt cheap but ran out :'-(

Due to space constraints, I am considering the following
Fronts JBL L820
Center JBL LC2
Surrounds *need help* I was thinking about pairing them with Axiom QS8s because those look truly bad ass....either those or L810s or L820s. Any advice on the best sound option? Will the QS8s mix will with the JBL fronts?
Sub 2 DIY Dayton 12" DVC Sonotubes (finish those with beach veneer next month ) powered by EP 2500
Receiver *already have* Yamaha RX-V661
TV about to upgrade to Samsung '71 series once march hits and prices drop
Any input?? Thanks!!
post #1752 of 14058
Looks like the Harman L series ebay streak is drawing to a close. Does anyone else know of places to get great deals on the L line?
post #1753 of 14058
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Originally Posted by LaRazaUnida View Post

Now onto my system that I will be building and need some help...Frys had them dirt cheap but ran out :'-(

Due to space constraints, I am considering the following
Fronts JBL L820
Center JBL LC2
Surrounds *need help* I was thinking about pairing them with Axiom QS8s because those look truly bad ass....either those or L810s or L820s. Any advice on the best sound option? Will the QS8s mix will with the JBL fronts?
Sub 2 DIY Dayton 12" DVC Sonotubes (finish those with beach veneer next month ) powered by EP 2500
Receiver *already have* Yamaha RX-V661
TV about to upgrade to Samsung '71 series once march hits and prices drop
Any input?? Thanks!!

For the most consistent and seamless HT and multichannel music experience, go with L820s all the way around. Let your subs bring up the bottom.
post #1754 of 14058
Well, I bought an LC2 and 6 L820s last year and I'm finally getting a chance to setup the theater.

I'm at the initial stage of the remodeling and i just mocked up how my 110" screen would look with the JBLs.

I'm kinda debating on how I want to setup the L/R speakers.
-My mock up has the L/R at ear level, as shown below.





-However, I kinda like the look of how another user set up their system





What do you all think I should do?





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post #1755 of 14058
darwin316, for me personally, I would push the screen all the way against the ceiling and then put the speakers below the screen, all the way up against the screen or very close to it like in scenario #2. As far as what would produce the best sound?... probably scenario #1. Always as close to ear level as possible is best, but scenario #2 is not so far off. Plus in scenario #1 the speakers are very close to the side walls which could create bad sound reflections. Choices, choices...
post #1756 of 14058
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

darwin316, for me personally, I would push the screen all the way against the ceiling and then put the speakers below the screen, all the way up against the screen or very close to it like in scenario #2. As far as what would produce the best sound?... probably scenario #1. Always as close to ear level as possible is best, but scenario #2 is not so far off. Plus in scenario #1 the speakers are very close to the side walls which could create bad sound reflections. Choices, choices...

Yeah... I'm probably gonna put the speakers below the screen. Having the speakers close to the wall freaked me out as well. I'll just have to place the speakers as close to the screen as possible. Maybe I'll have them angled up as well by adding more rubber feet in the bottom.
post #1757 of 14058
You won't want the screen up too high because you'll experience some discomfort in your neck.

As an experiment place an object up where you want the screen and keep looking at it for about two hours and see how your neck feels. If you feel fine then keep the screen that high.
post #1758 of 14058
Well, the ceiling in my basement is only 7.5 ft. and I'm gonna have the first row of seats at 14 ft. Hopefully it's far enough not to worry about neck strain!


But I will try to stare at something at the seating distance
post #1759 of 14058
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Originally Posted by Docj04 View Post

Looks like the Harman L series ebay streak is drawing to a close. Does anyone else know of places to get great deals on the L line?

Do you have a source or are you just saying so because there aren't many auctions right now? I'm hoping I didn't miss out...I've been watching the 890's but I just put a new pc together and don't like dropping tons of cash at once
post #1760 of 14058
Hello,
What exactly is the purpose of the L810's? Some use them as side surrounds (even fronts) but are they for all surrounds in a 7.1? Others say the sides should match the fronts, some say front, side and rear should all be the same in 7.1. How bout hanging the 810's above 820's all around 'cause I can't make up my mind? ha ha.
post #1761 of 14058
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Originally Posted by eugovector View Post

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Great score ! I envy you !
post #1762 of 14058
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Originally Posted by Amber O'Doul View Post

Great score ! I envy you !

Yeah, I finally got everything in place last night, and got to play around. 310ii in the fronts, and a single s38ii as my center.

My main goal for trying to chase down a pair of S38ii or S310ii was to improve the timbre matching across my front 3 channels (no so worried about surrounds).

I used the Pink Noise Sweeps from Avia to position the S38ii, tweeter up and slightly off center, and aimed slightly down (s38ii is above TV) for best timbre matching. The a 310ii (main) and s38ii (center) don't blend quite as well as s38ii (main and center), but better than my s38ii (main) and S-Centerii (center).

I'm in STL for a week or so, but when I get back, I'll use some music to tweak the response and sound stage of the fronts, then do the pink noise again, and verify with some movies.

If in a year and a half, when I will, hopefully, be purchasing a house and starting on a dedicated theater, I decide to go Acoustically Transparent screen, I'll probably be looking for a couple more pairs of s38ii to have identical speakers in 5, if not 7 channels. I'm rolling around the idea of setting up the s310ii, at that time, as "speaker b" for two channel listening. I like my speakers spaced farther apart for music than movies, so this would work perfectly.
post #1763 of 14058
Just wanted to put up a couple pics of our L820s and LC2 along with the dual MFW-15s. Two more L820s for the back, we're running 5.2 at this point.
post #1764 of 14058
Hey guys, I just purchased a pair of E-100's to complete a 7.0 setup. I was thinking of bi-wireing them. I Use a Denon AVR-785 and was gonna put the front speaker outs on the high input terminals on the E100's, and I have an Adcom GFA-5300 80w X 2 amp on the front pre outs that was powering a pair of CF150's which is now gonna be hooked into the low input terminalson the E100's, any openions on that?
post #1765 of 14058
Hey Is there anyone here who has owned or have experience with the CF series from the late 90's. My first pair of speakers was a pair of JBL CF100's I got 4 years ago at a pawn shop for 75$ in great condition, & I've been hooked on JBL ever since. About a year ago I won the CF120's on ebay for 200$, love them, and 4 months later got the CF150's on ebay also for 300$. I purchased an EC35 right before I got the CF120's to use, but I also got a CL505 center to see if it would match them better having the mylar tweeter and same type woofer, but. I actually think the ec35 blends in better with the cf 150's somehow. It's an ear piercing loud, clear and powerful system, especially for not using a separate sub(don't really need one), but I can definatly tell those speakers are hungry for a lot more power. I like not using a sub, is there anyone elso who doesn't use one?
post #1766 of 14058
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Originally Posted by NY240JBL View Post

Hey guys, I just purchased a pair of E-100's to complete a 7.0 setup. I was thinking of bi-wireing them. I Use a Denon AVR-785 and was gonna put the front speaker outs on the high input terminals on the E100's, and I have an Adcom GFA-5300 80w X 2 amp on the front pre outs that was powering a pair of CF150's which is now gonna be hooked into the low input terminalson the E100's, any openions on that?

What you're describing is actually Bi-amping, not bi-wiring (bi-wiring is just running two sets of wires from the same amp, and has no benefit).

Bi-amping in your situation may help with lowend clarity and articulation, or may be a bunch of work for no audible gain. You'll just have to try it and see.
post #1767 of 14058
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Originally Posted by Bob7145 View Post

Hello,
What exactly is the purpose of the L810's? Some use them as side surrounds (even fronts) but are they for all surrounds in a 7.1? Others say the sides should match the fronts, some say front, side and rear should all be the same in 7.1. How bout hanging the 810's above 820's all around 'cause I can't make up my mind? ha ha.

The L810 can be used for any and all channels, as can the L820, L830. All the models of the entire Studio L series are voice matched, so a mix and match setup can be used that would best work for any given room, due to location problems.
On the other hand, using the same speaker for mains and surrounds is even better. The L810 and the L830 could even be used as LCRs, plus used as surrounds.

As to whether 3 L810s or L830s across the front would sound better than using a LC1 or LC2 for the center could only be determined by doing a direct comparision.
post #1768 of 14058
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Originally Posted by NY240JBL View Post

Hey guys, I just purchased a pair of E-100's to complete a 7.0 setup. I was thinking of bi-wireing them. I Use a Denon AVR-785 and was gonna put the front speaker outs on the high input terminals on the E100's, and I have an Adcom GFA-5300 80w X 2 amp on the front pre outs that was powering a pair of CF150's which is now gonna be hooked into the low input terminalson the E100's, any openions on that?

I tried bi-amping my E100s once. I could hear a slight difference, but couldn't tell if it sounded better. It was with some Audiosource AmpOne/A amps... 200w x2 to each E100. I did it just to try and didn't keep it setup like that for long since I didn't see any real benefit for what was invested. Now I have one single 500w amp running each speaker and they sound pretty damn good.
post #1769 of 14058
4DHD, Thanks for the clarification. I have S412s in front and replaced the Scenter with an LC2 just for fun. That thing is huge! Then replaced the Control1X surrounds with 4-820s 'cause the wallmounts don't take up so much space in a small room vs the 830s.(or S38s I had) The 820s are kind of overkill. Just thought they and the LC2 would work with the S412s 'cause of the similar 6"-4"-1" speaker arrangement. It does sound great.
post #1770 of 14058
What are you going to do with the S38 speakers?
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