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post #241 of 15017
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Originally Posted by Mudslide View Post

I just spent my wad on the S38's and new bohemoth stands...one week before the PS800's hit ebay.

What stands did you end up getting for your S38?
post #242 of 15017
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$590, eh? Man, that next 12 dollar and 50 cent stretch would have been nice for you.

It was jumping by $10 and would have easily hit $700 or more. I'd already spent $2500 for the first five PT800s. And the pair of L212s(on the back wall) works well with the PS.
I sent a question to the guy on ebay, who is selling the PS AV1 pre/pro and the 7 channel amp, asked him what color the speakers were. They're Black.
But he told me he was going to list the entire PS speaker system on audiogon because he figures he can get a better price than if he listed them on ebay.
post #243 of 15017
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Originally Posted by eugovector View Post

What stands did you end up getting for your S38?

The S38's now rest upon some Dayton SSHM 24" stands. The S38's are large and heavy and the missus wanted to put a (hate to admit this in public) huge house plant on one of the speakers. The plant weighs in at ~20# and the S38's at 28# per. So the stands had to be beefy and sport a large top plate. Each stand weighs ~28#, as well....and I haven't filled the pillars with steel shot, yet. You'd think my floor is gonna sag!

Stands ... http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshow...number=240-744

Oh yeah...they didn't have FREE SHIPPING when I bought (one week too early)!! That cost almost 50 bucks!
post #244 of 15017
Okay gents. HERE is the real deal. Anyone out there want to loan me 54 large?

A complete JBL Synthesis K2 S9800SE THX Hercules HT system is up for sale on fleabay. These apparently were JBL demos at the last CES show. OH my.
post #245 of 15017
I've seen those outdoor speakers that look like rocks and such, but I've never seen a "plant-stand speaker".
post #246 of 15017
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Originally Posted by Mudslide View Post

Okay gents. HERE is the real deal. Anyone out there want to loan me 54 large?

A complete JBL Synthesis K2 S9800SE THX Hercules HT system is up for sale on fleabay. These apparently were JBL demos at the last CES show. OH my.

I thought the K2s were $25K for a pair and $30K for the limited edition model. hmmm.

I'm holding off replacing my L/R (using HT5s now). I'll either go with HT4Vs or if business picks up maybe the Synthesis Array 1000. Those you can get for only $4K each.

Edited: I realize now it is a "Complete" HT system. Must be 4 - K2s so $54K is a bargain.
post #247 of 15017
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Originally Posted by MLKstudios View Post

I thought the K2s were $25K for a pair and $30K for the limited edition model. hmmm.

I'm holding off replacing my L/R (using HT5s now). I'll either go with HT4Vs or if business picks up maybe the Synthesis Array 1000. Those you can get for only $4K each.

Edited: I realize now it is a "Complete" HT system. Must be 4 - K2s so $54K is a bargain.

K2 are $30K/pr
Everest are $60K/pr
For me to be able to buy either, I'd have to sell the house and move even farther out of town and put up a double wide.
Might be worth it for the Everest DD66000.
post #248 of 15017
I just received and unpacked my new LC2 center channel. Man this thing is a monster! Can't wait to get it home and hook it up. Since Im not wall mounting it I applied the little self adhesive rubber feet to it. Sicne I have to angle the center down to my listenign position, i triple stacked the rear stick on feet, and didnt multiple stack the front ones, so now it aims downward about 15-20 degrees.
post #249 of 15017
Congrats CF22. Let us know how it sounds.
post #250 of 15017
Yeah, my first post. JBL shoutout.

Ok, for real. I see someone up top running a HK247 I believe it is, and my question is, how does the HK compare to Onkyo for speaker matching? (I know that certain speakers like certain amps because of multiple reasons) I am particularly interested in the 875/905 Onkyo because of 2 things mainly HDMI 1.3(I'll need 4 slots--listed below) and REON chip.

I am in the process of upgrading my bedroom HT and so far, I have purchased the Sammy 4665F (wall mounted)and being the JBL fan I am, I bought the Venue series for the price, style x 2, and performance. Stadium and voice series will be lining the front and for the sides and rear its the balcony series.

I am probably planning on a PS3 (prolly wont play games much on it just the cheapest BD player atm). I have Verizon's FIOS HD box so HDMI runs out of that. I also run a modded Sammy 1080p upconversion dvd (this won't be replaced by the PS3 unless the PS3 can be region free modded). My last HDMI piece is for my Sony SR7 that I hook up so I can watch my newborn daughter on at night(turned the infared on and LCD brightness waaay down in order to sleep and see when I get woke up).

So, after all that said...any new HK receivers worth waiting for (or other receivers for that matter) that will match well sound wise?

Lastly, maybe its just me and prolly is, but why is JBL's stuff so much more appealing than most other brands visually? Oh I'm a Sammy fan as well because they make nice looking and quality stuff as well.
post #251 of 15017
Venue series looks like trash, man. Major JBL mistake IMHO.
post #252 of 15017
My HT series are not pretty at all. But they sound good.
post #253 of 15017
Gotta agree with visual commentation on the HT series
post #254 of 15017
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Originally Posted by eugovector View Post

Venue series looks like trash, man. Major JBL mistake IMHO.

To each his own, though I prefer the looks of the PS over most.

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Originally Posted by cobb View Post

06sti Yeah, my first post. JBL shoutout.

Ok, for real. I see someone up top running a HK247 I believe it is, and my question is, how does the HK compare to Onkyo for speaker matching? (I know that certain speakers like certain amps because of multiple reasons) I am particularly interested in the 875/905 Onkyo because of 2 things mainly HDMI 1.3(I'll need 4 slots--listed below) and REON chip.

I would think a H/K receiver mates better with JBLs.
post #255 of 15017
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Well, link no worky, but just search for e90. They're cheeeeeerrrry .

My JBL E-90CHs arrived yesterday while I was at work so, needless to say, I wasn't where I wanted to be! The seller was extremely nice and packed the speakers in the original boxes with all of the original packing material and stuffed the boxes with extra padding. The speakers were purchased a year ago and are in mint condition.

Though I already own a pair of E30CHs, an EC35CH, and an E250PCH (I know, not the best, but I got it CHEAP), I was very impressed with the look of the cherry finish and how well they complimented my living room. Most importantly, though I'm a newbie to this hobby and I may be more-easily impressed, they SOUND fantastic! Listening to some songs off my Elton SACDs last night was a revelation. Both my wife and I noted the improved midrange and bottom-end definition which really made the presentation warmer, richer, and fuller. Imaging was impressive as well. I can see now that, in a way, with the E30s and an (sub-?) average sub, I was really missing details in the middle and the E90s seem to "complete the picture" so-to-speak.

My goal now is to get my E30CHs moved to the rear and do plenty of recalibration. I'll experiment with moving the sub around the room now that my front soundstage extends to lower frequencies. Guess what I'll be doing on my next day off! Plenty of critical listening to come.

I can now say I'm a proud owner of a JBL cherry E-Series 5.1 system! Finally! Let me also mention that this is my FIRST surround system. I've got over 50 multichannel, high-resolution discs in my collection that I've never heard before, not to mention all of my DVDs that I've never heard in surround. I'm just a tad excited. . .

Thanks to everyone who made the effort to post buying options for me and to smarty-pants for finding this auction.

Josh
post #256 of 15017
Congrats on your purchase Sooner,

don't forget to post some pictures when your setup is done!
post #257 of 15017
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Originally Posted by SoonerCaniac View Post

My JBL E-90CHs arrived yesterday while I was at work so, needless to say, I wasn't where I wanted to be! The seller was extremely nice and packed the speakers in the original boxes with all of the original packing material and stuffed the boxes with extra padding. The speakers were purchased a year ago and are in mint condition.

Though I already own a pair of E30CHs, an EC35CH, and an E250PCH (I know, not the best, but I got it CHEAP), I was very impressed with the look of the cherry finish and how well they complimented my living room. Most importantly, though I'm a newbie to this hobby and I may be more-easily impressed, they SOUND fantastic! Listening to some songs off my Elton SACDs last night was a revelation. Both my wife and I noted the improved midrange and bottom-end definition which really made the presentation warmer, richer, and fuller. Imaging was impressive as well. I can see now that, in a way, with the E30s and an (sub-?) average sub, I was really missing details in the middle and the E90s seem to "complete the picture" so-to-speak.

My goal now is to get my E30CHs moved to the rear and do plenty of recalibration. I'll experiment with moving the sub around the room now that my front soundstage extends to lower frequencies. Guess what I'll be doing on my next day off! Plenty of critical listening to come.

I can now say I'm a proud owner of a JBL cherry E-Series 5.1 system! Finally! Let me also mention that this is my FIRST surround system. I've got over 50 multichannel, high-resolution discs in my collection that I've never heard before, not to mention all of my DVDs that I've never heard in surround. I'm just a tad excited. . .

Thanks to everyone who made the effort to post buying options for me and to smarty-pants for finding this auction.

Josh

I'm delighted to hear that you got them ok, and that you're happy with them. Have fun listening to all that beautiful surround sound.
post #258 of 15017
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Originally Posted by eugovector View Post

Venue series looks like trash, man. Major JBL mistake IMHO.

Wow, talk about unnecessary negativity. An AVS member is excited about his new gear and your best response is to say they look like trash?
post #259 of 15017
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Originally Posted by filecat13 View Post

Wow, talk about unnecessary negativity. An AVS member is excited about his new gear and your best response is to say they look like trash?

Hey, I was knocking JBL as much as his "style x2" comment. Like I said, in my opinion, they totally screwed the pooch on the venue series. Looks cheap.

But if you still want to be excited about them, be excited about the sound. I wouldn't even care about the looks except that I know a lot of people have left them on the shelf because of the looks, and I'm sick of the whole silver movement in HT in general. Dumbest idea ever. Black components don't reflect ambient light, look classy, and match every other black component. Silver, not at all.
post #260 of 15017
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Originally Posted by cobb06sti View Post

Yeah, my first post.

Lastly, maybe its just me and prolly is, but why is JBL's stuff so much more appealing than most other brands visually?


First off, welcome to the forums. We hope you like it here.

You wouldn't be the only one who likes the current look of JBL's products, and most people like the looks of the vintage gear even more. If current sales trends are any indication, JBL did a good job with the Venue Series of marrying price, performance, style, and marketing to deliver a very popular product. It's a combination that's hard to beat.

A lot of the veteran JBL owners 4DHD and I have hung out with for a long time over at Lansing Heritage don't like much about any of the new products. They're sometimes critical of the looks, of the design, of the components, of the sound, etc. I disagree with their analysis.

One of the things I like best about this AVS thread is that there's so much enthusiasm for current JBLs and appreciation of the merits of these models. I have to say that my first impression of the recent Studio Series (not Studio L Series) was negative based solely on looks, and that was based on my 35+ year old L100s and the way they looked. I eventually got over the idea I had that everything had to look like it did in the 1960s and 70s to be worth anything. Once I did, the Northridge Series, the Studio L Series, and the Venue Series were all very easy to embrace, especially when I took the time to see them and listen to them in person.

Pictures usually don't do much (at least for me) to tell me how something looks. I saw the Venue Series at Frys Electronics and thought they looked as good as anything else in the room.

Of course, as 4DHD wrote, "to each is own," as stye is quite individual. Heck, I even like the way the HT Series looks, and not many people do.
post #261 of 15017
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Originally Posted by SoonerCaniac View Post

I can see now that, in a way, with the E30s and an (sub-?) average sub, I was really missing details in the middle and the E90s seem to "complete the picture" so-to-speak.

As a veteran of JBL's 4-way systems, actually 3-way towers and subs, since the late '70's, that is just what I've been saying to all that come to multi-channel sound, and only buy small bookshelfs(or bose cubes,even worse) and a sub. The one exception, of what I've heard, is the Studio L820 bookshelf.

My experience with the 30 year old L212 system and the current PT800s, which both are 3-ways, that includes an 8" mid-bass driver do the entire audio range right.
In the case of the L212's 112A/H driver the motor assembly was really meant for a 12" woofer. So that gives you an idea how good the L212's mid-bass is. And when I hear a small sat/sub system that mid-bass region is always missing.
post #262 of 15017
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Originally Posted by eugovector View Post

...and I'm sick of the whole silver movement in HT in general. Dumbest idea ever. Black components don't reflect ambient light, look classy, and match every other black component. Silver, not at all.

I'm in 100% agreement here. I had a silver AVR and gave it away (to my li'l bro) after a year, because I couldn't stand the color which clashed with everything else in the room. Black or very dark grey is the way to go. If they want to make a silver one, fine, just be sure to make a black version too- is that too much to ask?
post #263 of 15017
I didn't mean to imply the HT line is ugly. Just that they are basic black boxes with very little decoration on the horns. Not much to look at really.

But since my original 5.1 (Cambridge Soundworks HT IV) with small satellites, I appreciate the ability to hide the speakers (or at least have them disappear in a darkened room) so you pay attention to the movie rather than admiring where the sound is coming from.

Having said that, I am hoping to one day get a couple of Arrays for R/L and love the looks of those.
post #264 of 15017
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Originally Posted by filecat13 View Post

You wouldn't be the only one who likes the current look of JBL's products, and most people like the looks of the vintage gear even more. If current sales trends are any indication, JBL did a good job with the Venue Series of marrying price, performance, style, and marketing to deliver a very popular product. It's a combination that's hard to beat

.
It would appear the JBL's entire current lineup from top to bottom has been well received.
Starting with the Everest DD66000, that just premiered about 10 or 11 months ago had back orders of over 300 units in just the first 5 months, which was twice what JBL had figured they would sell in the first year, @ $60K/pr!

Then there is the Studio L Series, that has only been around 2 years or even less, is a big winner in its price range. A lot of sales there, helped by internet sales.
And now the Venue, which is one step down from the Studio L series.

The only system that has been maybe lower in sales is the PS. Which is due to its lack of availability, for most of its 6 year run, as both of us well know.

As far as the Array, horn loaded system, I have no idea, as it seems to be as hard to find as the PS has been. Basically Synthesis dealers only. And we know they don't have showrooms.
post #265 of 15017
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Originally Posted by MLKstudios View Post

I didn't mean to imply the HT line is ugly. Just that they are basic black boxes with very little decoration on the horns. Not much to look at really.

But since my original 5.1 (Cambridge Soundworks HT IV) with small satellites, I appreciate the ability to hide the speakers (or at least have them disappear in a darkened room) so you pay attention to the movie rather than admiring where the sound is coming from.

Having said that, I am hoping to one day get a couple of Arrays for R/L and love the looks of those.

In a dark room they aren't going to show anyway. Even if I'm watching a movie in the middle of the day, once I add the blackouts to the windows and close the rear sliding doors, I could take off the grilles to the PT800s and not see the Titanium drivers. And at night the only thing I'm going to see is the 65" screen.

As far as silver gear, I see nothing wrong with H/K's half black/half silver receivers.

The Arrays are like the PS, most likely have to buy before hearing them.
post #266 of 15017
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Originally Posted by 4DHD View Post

As far as silver gear, I see nothing wrong with H/K's half black/half silver receivers.

The Arrays are like the PS, most likely have to buy before hearing them.

I like the blue moon on my H/K.

And I bought the HTs unheard (from a Synth dealer) but no disappointment there.
post #267 of 15017
I have the Venue Series Monitor Bookshelfs as front and rear, and the Voice center channel. Overall, I'm very pleased with the sound considering the small amount money invested. I actually pitted the Voice against the Klipsch C-2 and favored the Voice. Aside from the ABS(bleh!) cabinet I'm very pleased as far as sound is concerned. It's not the highest end system, but it fully supports my needs
post #268 of 15017
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Originally Posted by MLKstudios View Post

And I bought the HTs unheard (from a Synth dealer) but no disappointment there.

It seems that is the way its going, at least around here. I had to buy the PS, unheard, and had to drive 135 miles to Sac. CA. to audition the Studio L890s, last summer, @ Fry's.
And my last visit to the local BB was a goose egg, as far as having any JBL's, not counting some small ones that would fit in you hands. BB is a total joke as far as audio is concerned, imho.
And nothing in the Magnolia HT corner that can touch my PS PT800s. Filecat13 knows all about that.
post #269 of 15017
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Originally Posted by filecat13 View Post

I have to say that my first impression of the recent Studio Series (not Studio L Series) was negative based solely on looks, and that was based on my 35+ year old L100s and the way they looked. I eventually got over the idea I had that everything had to look like it did in the 1960s and 70s to be worth anything. Once I did, the Northridge Series, the Studio L Series, and the Venue Series were all very easy to embrace, especially when I took the time to see them and listen to them in person.


Ouch, Filecat13...you know how to hurt a guy. Naw, I kind of agree with you that these Studio S's are not the best looking speaker. But as JBL's go, they're no lesser a looker than my previous L100's nor (especially) the J350A's (glass top and all). If you want pretty, ya need to go to Aurum Cantus, Sonus Fabers, Salks, or such.

I prefer audio value over looks...lol...only because of affordability issues.
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post #270 of 15017
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Originally Posted by Mudslide View Post

Ouch, Filecat13...you know how to hurt a guy. Naw, I kind of agree with you that these Studio S's are not the best looking speaker. But as JBL's go, they're no lesser a looker than my previous L100's nor (especially) the J350A's (glass top and all). If you want pretty, ya need to go to Aurum Cantus, Sonus Fabers, Salks, or such.

I prefer audio value over looks...lol...only because of affordability issues.

Revels are pleasant looking too, and under the Harman umbrella.

I must say, I occasionally look at the HTs and smile, but maybe only because they sound so good.
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