Originally Posted by Richard Paul
The Blu-ray specs requires that there be 256 MB of persistent memory capability. Also allowing for external storage will in most cases mean that a player can handle far more than 256 MB. For instance the Panasonic BMP-BD30 has a SDHC memory card slot which means a user can even use SDHC cards over 2 GB in capacity.
Understood ... the question is: How much Memory does it come with? 64KB? or 256MB? If it only comes with 64KB, then it really won't be able to take advantage of many Profile 1.1 options out of the Box, will it?
jdg345, in my opinion it seems rather silly to imply that the Panasonic BMP-BD30 is not a Profile 1.1 player because it doesn't come with a SD memory card.
Actually, I'm simply stating that if it only has 64KB of Memory on board and does not come with added memory and therefore does not play Profile 1.1 content unless the end user goes out and buys something else ... then, I would suggest that listing it as a Profile 1.1 player is a little fishy.
Though it would have been nice had Panasonic included one the player more than meets the requirement for persistent memory capability.
Wait, so you have confirmation of how much persistent memory is in this player? Do you have a link? Is it 64KB or 256MB included?
And last I checked the 128 MB requirement with HD DVD is pretty easy to use up so your "concern" about persistent memory really applies to both HD formats.
That depends ... if 128MB is easy to use up, then 64KB is certainly *very* easy to use up as it is ony 0.05% of what HD DVD can hold. Though I agree that limits in general apply to both formats; I think that the real solution here is not to necessarily include tons of memory in a player, but to instead allow expandability of memory via USB Thumb Drives or Network Assets. All HD DVD players have USB and Ethernet I believe (though the USB cannot be used to expand memory expansion without a firmware upgrade). Profile 2.0 Blu-ray players should have Ethernet Ports as well.
I am pretty sure though that titles for both HD formats, which have features that use persistent memory, include messages in case the person tries to do something that would require more persistent memory than a player has.
Actually, this may or may not be the case. Talkstr8t suggested that if your player did not meet certain requirements, those features may be completely hidden from view. So rather than getting a message saying, "Feature X Not Available on this Hardware" when you attempt to use it, you would not even know 'Feature X' existed on disc.
Again, I just want to know how much persistent memory is included in the player out of the box. If it's only 64KB and that limits playback of Profile 1.1 content, it would seem silly to consider it a Profile 1.1 player, wouldn't you agree? I mean, if it says "Profile 1.1", wouldn't you expect it to play Profile 1.1 titles without needing to buy something else?